News: Why Dallas Cowboys’ family business prevents winning titles

[Sydla]

Here's the problem with your logic. During Johnson's era there was no salary cap when the team was built. Since the cap started the Cowboys have been in cap he11 because of that team that was built and having to cut players and restructure contracts every year just to get under the cap and then as time went by to be able to just resign a select few of their own players. Restructuring contract is just putting dead money on the cap down the road and it's been a vicious circle since the cap started.
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This doesn't refute my logic at all. All NFL teams operate under the cap. So this isn't some crutch that the Cowboys have to deal with and others don't.

In fact, this is just another example of how the team has floundered under Jerry being the GM here. They have, at times, mismanaged their cap.

I mean the evidence is overwhelming that Jerry the GM simply has not gotten it done. Even if you want to give him complete credit for the SB teams, since that 1995 SB team, he's been the GM that has seen a team win 3 playoff games in 22 years. How is that a job well done?

 

[Dre11]

There’s another side to being a GM.

Hiring good coaches. The fact they’ve drafted more Pro Bowlers than anyone else and have nothing to show for it should clue you into something.

But it doesn’t apparently.

It's your opinion they're not good coaches. The fact, our coaches are being hired away says otherwise.

 

[Sydla]

It's your opinion they're not good coaches. The fact, our coaches are being hired away says otherwise.

Head coaches.

What head coaches have been hired away or taken other head coaching jobs and gone on to great success elsewhere after Dallas?

 

[Dre11]

I only care what his expertise has done for the cowboys the last 20 years. Since Jimmy left, only one noteworthy coach. (parcells). No qb for years after aikman until a free agent named Antonio Ramiro came to town. Publicly stating tony's scrambling abilities precluded the need for a good o-line. Allowing our d-backs to be the nfl's worst. I could go on but no need.

Of course you do, because Otherwise your narrative gets discredited. You act like qbs grow on trees, the great Jimmy had Aikman fall in his lap, who he later tried to replace with Steve Walsh(glad we dodged that bullet). The great BP brought in a washed up Bledsoe, 41 year old Vinny, and Drew Henson and these were suppose to be good talent evaluators.
As far d-backs, I like to see your proof of them being the worst in the NFL, or are you just making ish up.?

 

[GORICO]

Did the scouting dept have anything to do with that poor selection of free agents last season? We got 0 return on our investment.

mr fan 68...i am close to that...1970....yes the pro department must be upgraded considerably...trying to save money getting 3rd tier players only to have them retire or get cut leaves a lot of dead money....pay more money and get good pros...everyone knows good free agents get overpaid but that is how the cookie crumbles

 

[Dre11]

Well you are bragging about pro bowl players . Heck even Jason Witten made the pro bowl and we all know he was not top 10 TE. Pro Bowl selections only make a difference when you have smart game planning coaches that can make simple halftime adjustments. Football is a team sport. Individual accomplishments won't win a Super Bowl. It's a shame you don't know that.

As we've been told and lambasted for disagreeing with the notion that rings distinguishes qbs when it shouldn't ,it's a team sport, but we we're told that's just the way it is. Now, all of a sudden folks want to talk about team sport when it comes to the pro bowl selections. Well it's what distinguishes good players, it's just what it is. You're paying more for pro bowl players than you're paying for non pro bowl players.

 

[Dre11]

Pro Bowlers are selected by voting. Hardly a surprise that the most popular team gets a lot of votes.

If only votes determined the winners of playoff games.

Oh well, if your peers feel you're deserving, who are you to downplay it?

 

[Dre11]

Yay! Put that 11th rank in the trophy case, will ya!

It kills you'll theory that they don't know what they're doing....yay!!!!

 

[Jarv]

It kills you'll theory that they don't know what they're doing....yay!!!!

It kills me that Jerry is the GM and Garrett is the coach, yeah not yay...lol

 

[Dre11]

Head coaches.

What head coaches have been hired away or taken other head coaching jobs and gone on to great success elsewhere after Dallas?

Moving the goalposts? But really what head coaches gets fired and go on to have success? You can count on one hand. Did Jerry Hire Jimmy? Did he hire Bill Parcells? Barry Switzer? Phillips( I think he did an ok job here)? He brought in Gailey,Campo who were bad. Garrett is still here and has been average. The fact that coaches all over the league get recycled, doesn't bode well for you point.

 

[Sydla]

Wait, an opinion ranking of GMs by USA Today is now proof Jerry is a good GM? A ranking that has him ranked 11th, which is closer to average than being great?

My god people...............

 

[Sydla]

Moving the goalposts? But really what head coaches gets fired and go on to have success? You can count on one hand. Did Jerry Hire Jimmy? Did he hire Bill Parcells? Barry Switzer? Phillips( I think he did an ok job here)? He brought in Gailey,Campo who were bad. Garrett is still here and has been average. The fact that coaches all over the league get recycled, doesn't bode well for you point.

No moving the goal posts. I've always said Jerry's biggest issue is he largely struggles at hiring competent head coaches.

Parcells was at the end of his career so that wasn't this home run hire you are trying to make it out to be. Phillips wasn't a good hire. He's clearly a better DC than HC. Gailey, Campo and Garrett are all mediocre to bad coaches that have no real successes as head coaches.

Basically he hired Jimmy and Switzer, but those were 20+ years ago. And certainly he gets credit for that. Switzer was a better head coach than people give him credit for IMO. But again, those were 20 years ago. So we aren't talking about some small sample or little rut we've run into here. It's a two decade rut.

It's laughable the lengths you guys will go to defend Jones the GM.

 

[Dre11]

It kills me that Jerry is the GM and Garrett is the coach, yeah not yay...lol

I like yay!!! Then why watch? It kills me that folks are so fed up, but continue to try and make all other fans miserable with constant whining. There's an easy solution people, it really is.

 

[Dre11]

No moving the goal posts. I've always said Jerry's biggest issue is he largely struggles at hiring competent head coaches.

Parcells was at the end of his career so that wasn't this home run hire you are trying to make it out to be. Phillips wasn't a good hire. He's clearly a better DC than HC. Gailey, Campo and Garrett are all mediocre to bad coaches that have no real successes as head coaches.

Basically he hired Jimmy and Switzer, but those were 20+ years ago. And certainly he gets credit for that. Switzer was a better head coach than people give him credit for IMO. But again, those were 20 years ago. So we aren't talking about some small sample or little rut we've run into here. It's a two decade rut.

It's laughable the lengths you guys will go to defend Jones the GM.

Phillips wasn't a bad hire( to get him as a DC (he was one of the best at the time) he was only coming as Head coach, he wasn't making a lateral move. Parcells was a good hire( the team needed an attitude change and to become relevant again after Campo) Parcells did that, there was no way to know he would retire.
Gailey and Campo were bad coaches, although Gailey was dealt a bad hand, with Irving going down,then Galloway, Aikman and Emmitt dropping off. Jerry has made his share of mistakes just as every other GM in the league.

 

[Jarv]

I like yay!!! Then why watch? It kills me that folks are so fed up, but continue to try and make all other fans miserable with constant whining. There's an easy solution people, it really is.

Boom, you're a genius! Why didn't I think of that!

Agreed, you should put me and everyone else on ignore who doesn't like the the job the GM and coach are doing. Likewise, since you like the job they are doing I should put you on ignore. Then we will only see post we agree with!!! Yay!

 

[Dre11]

Boom, you're a genius! Why didn't I think of that!

Agreed, you should put me and everyone else on ignore who doesn't like the the job the GM and coach are doing. Likewise, since you like the job they are doing I should put you on ignore. Then we will only see post we agree with!!! Yay!

I don't put people on ignore, not my thing.

 

[Jarv]

I don't put people on ignore, not my thing.

Actually, a group of folks on here teamed and gave me some cash (oddly, they were mostly the mods) to try to make you miserable. How am I doing? I actually really like the way Jerry GMs and Garrett coaches, but I needed the cash. Sorry

 

[Dre11]

Actually, a group of folks on here teamed and gave me some cash (oddly, they were mostly the mods) to try to make you miserable. How am I doing? I actually really like the way Jerry GMs and Garrett coaches, but I needed the cash. Sorry

Yeah ok..maybe you should give them their money back....lol

 

[Sydla]

Phillips wasn't a bad hire( to get him as a DC (he was one of the best at the time) he was only coming as Head coach, he wasn't making a lateral move. Parcells was a good hire( the team needed an attitude change and to become relevant again after Campo) Parcells did that, there was no way to know he would retire.
Gailey and Campo were bad coaches, although Gailey was dealt a bad hand, with Irving going down,then Galloway, Aikman and Emmitt dropping off. Jerry has made his share of mistakes just as every other GM in the league.

The fact he had 3 playoff wins in the last two decades probably would indicate to any sane fan he’s had more screw ups than your typical good GM.

 

[Nightman]

The fact he had 3 playoff wins in the last two decades probably would indicate to any sane fan he’s had more screw ups than your typical good GM.

You wear that stat like a badge of honor and throw away all the good things

This team was 13-3 two years ago and had a bye...they got beat by a crafty vet QB that made a couple miracle plays....but that has freakall to do with the Campo years

This team as built can win the Super Bowl with these coaches.......it wouldn't be a miracle

Repeating the same made up stat makes you look like the Eagles fan that you are