Kiper's Grade A draft

[Stash]

Can you fix this mess so that I can actually respond to it?

Thanks in advance!

 

[CowboyChris]

Because Mayfield is infinitely more accurate against much better competition.

Allen does not have the same traits as Wentz. Far from it. He's got the arm strength and the size but the accuracy and mental side of the game aren't even comparable.

I dunno about that.....their stats are almost identical, both played at a small college, both rumored to be top2 in QB class, both are big QB's with strong arms, the comparisons go on and on...I'm not sure how you are determining mental side maybe you can explain that.

 

[Risen Star]

I dunno about that.....their stats are almost identical, both played at a small college, both rumored to be top2 in QB class, both are big QB's with strong arms, the comparisons go on and on...I'm not sure how you are determining mental side maybe you can explain that.

Carson Wentz was a career 64% completion percentage in college. With a 3 to 1 TD/INT ratio.

Josh Allen is a career 56%. With a 2 to 1 TD/INT ratio.

When Wentz walks to the line of scrimmage he knows what he's looking at. He's Manning-ish in that regard. Allen struggles to see basic blitz schemes and hot reads.

Not even remotely comparable. Allen would be a train wreck if he had to start right away as Wentz did in Philly with that team and those mediocre weapons in 2016. Wentz did ok because he was ahead of the game mentally.

 

[CowboyChris]

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but Allen played against stronger competition and in a more pro-style offense, maybe Wentz was a little better than Allen coming out, but to say it's not even comparable is a reach.

 

[reddyuta]

I am looking for a new TV,i will get one if they pick a TE in RD 2.

 

[CowboyChris]

I am looking for a new TV,i will get one if they pick a TE in RD 2.

true story we got one after the catch in the nfc champion a long time ago

 

[ConceptCoop]

I am looking for a new TV,i will get one if they pick a TE in RD 2.

Why? We have the need and the position is important enough to justify the investment.

 

[reddyuta]

Why? We have the need and the position is important enough to justify the investment.

WHY???????

Witten is not coming off on ANY Downs,i cant think of a way for wasting a valuable 2nd RD pick short of drafting a Kicker in the 2nd RD like the Bucs did a few years ago.

 

[ConceptCoop]

WHY???????

Witten is not coming off on ANY Downs,i cant think of a way for wasting a valuable 2nd RD pick short of drafting a Kicker in the 2nd RD like the Bucs did a few years ago.

WHY NOT??????

Jason Witten isn't very good anymore, sadly, and is at the end of his career. TE is clearly a need.

 

[reddyuta]

WHY NOT??????

Jason Witten isn't very good anymore, sadly, and is at the end of his career. TE is clearly a need.

Everybody including Wtten knows that and they are not going to do a damn thing about it,why waste a Pick on a guy who wont see the field at all?

 

[ConceptCoop]

Everybody including Wtten knows that and they are not going to do a damn thing about it,why waste a Pick on a guy who wont see the field at all?

He will see the field. You can use him in the slot on day one, run some two TE sets, and he's ready to start next year when Witten retires.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

WHY NOT??????

Jason Witten isn't very good anymore, sadly, and is at the end of his career. TE is clearly a need.

Boys have 5 TE's on the roster, Witten, Hannah, Swaim, Gathers and Jarwin. I've read they like Jarwin, and brought him up late last year off the practice squad to prevent another team signing him.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Did you seriously just ask me if I've given up on another year of "honing" Prescott's skills?

I read and write English. Should I ask if you do?

 

[Johnny23]

He will see the field. You can use him in the slot on day one, run some two TE sets, and he's ready to start next year when Witten retires.

delusion 101 right here. Saying we can do things we don't.

 

[ConceptCoop]

Boys have 5 TE's on the roster, Witten, Hannah, Swaim, Gathers and Jarwin. I've read they like Jarwin, and brought him up late last year off the practice squad to prevent another team signing him.

You could construct a similar narrative about any position on the team. That is not a quality TE group.

 

[ConceptCoop]

delusion 101 right here. Saying we can do things we don't.

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. We can draft anybody left on the board. We do draft TEs in the 2nd round.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

You could construct a similar narrative about any position on the team. That is not a quality TE group.

I saId we have 5 TE's on the roster, and the Boys like Jarwin, and obviously still have plans for Gathers. It is what it is.

 

[Johnny23]

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. We can draft anybody left on the board. We do draft TEs in the 2nd round.

playing the tight end in slot and other things. Witten takes 98 % of the snaps. And we took that scrub Escobar. And others who neber saw the light of day because of witten to.even justify the picks.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Can you fix this mess so that I can actually respond to it?

Thanks in advance!

Stash, sorry to inject my opinion into this discussion, but if this TE can play, and is anything like Risen proclaims - I understand that leaves a lot of wiggle room - then drifting someone to learn from Witten until he leaves isn't a bad thing.

But understand this, if Rico Suave can be a real deal player, and the team added another guy who can cause disruption in the defensive backfield as well, that has to make this team better.

Hell, the Pats were trying to do that recently themselves. The idea of two players that can exploit the hash marks, makes the outside guys better.

Just a thought.

 

[ConceptCoop]

I saId we have 5 TE's on the roster, and the Boys like Jarwin, and obviously still have plans for Gathers. It is what it is.

Jarwin is cuttable depth. (A lot of guys currently on the roster will be cut.)

Gathers was and still is a long shot - they're not pinning their hopes at the position on him.