Adult Language Jason Garrett is soft and only a clapper?

[Idgit]

I'm gonna go on record here and say you love participation trophies. He was "gifted" everything he has is because jerry loved his dad. Who would actually want a QB from princeton who after being cut by the saints couldn't even get a starting job in the World League of American Football. Daddy got jerry to sign him to the practice squad. In his 3rd year removed from college. His brother has a job right now in the scouting department. Provide me an instance where he has done something that you didn't second guess at the end of a game. Shoot the kneel down on the final drive against green bay was his call and ended up costing us the game along with Byron Jones. I can keep firing out examples of poor coaching all you comeback is that's not true with no substance behind your claims.

So, you're argument that he was gifted something isn't related to his HC job at all, where a total of three teams made him HC offers but instead refers to his playing career. And your evidence that it was a gift is that his dad was on the staff, ruling out all possibility that his growing up in a football family with a scout and a head coach for a father played a role in his development as a player. Got it. Yeah, I reject that.

I'm going to go on record her and say that you were wrong about the participation trophy thing. I'm a guy who likes to figure out what's not working and fix *that* as opposed to the guy who'll just randomly start swapping out parts when he's not getting the results he wants even though his wants and his expectations have no necessary reason to correlate. From my experience, that's a better way to get actual trophies.

As for your example v. Green Bay, are you talking about the first down spike on the final drive in the playoff game? Or the incomplete pass to Dez in last year's regular season game? I'm not sure which example you're talking about.

 

[Hennessy_King]

So, you're argument that he was gifted something isn't related to his HC job at all, where a total of three teams made him HC offers but instead refers to his playing career. And your evidence that it was a gift is that his dad was on the staff, ruling out all possibility that his growing up in a football family with a scout and a head coach for a father played a role in his development as a player. Got it. Yeah, I reject that.

I'm going to go on record her and say that you were wrong about the participation trophy thing. I'm a guy who likes to figure out what's not working and fix *that* as opposed to the guy who'll just randomly start swapping out parts when he's not getting the results he wants even though his wants and his expectations have no necessary reason to correlate. From my experience, that's a better way to get actual trophies.

As for your example v. Green Bay, are you talking about the first down spike on the final drive in the playoff game? Or the incomplete pass to Dez in last year's regular season game? I'm not sure which example you're talking about.

2016 playoff game on the final drive. To call that spike was terrible and was Garrett's call. When did he get offered the HC job? After parcells stacked our team with talent. And because jerry was so in love with his dad he told garrett he will pay him the same amount as the HC and then blow out our HC mid season. Sounds like a great way to do things.

 

[GenoT]

So you think that if Jason had not had the 12-4 and 13-3 seasons, with a playoff win and another stolen from him because Dez couldn't hang on the the football in a crucial spot, that he'd still be the coach?

It’s about results.

In 8 full seasons, Garrett’s won one playoff game and has yet to get past the division round (btw, we lost to GB in the catch/no-catch game because of bad 4th quarter play calling and the fact that our defense couldn’t contain a one-legged QB).

As long as the Cowboys are making BIG-$$$$ and Garrett doesn’t fall much below 8-8, and as long as Jones can blame mediocrity on anything he deems outside of JG’s control, Jerry won't fire him.

If that floats your boat, then please enjoy.

 

[Stryker44]

Jerry Jones cannot let Garrett go.

Garrett has 3 Rings. Just like Jones. Jerry Jones will never fire himself, but would have to do so if Garrett got fired.

Stephen Jones has 0 Rings. He would be more likely to fire Stephen then Jason Garrett.

 

[GMO415]

The results still spoke for themselves.....they went 9-7! Dal was sorry last season....all that BS talk didn't amount to shhhh, unless it did and they should had performed worse

 

[Idgit]

2016 playoff game on the final drive. To call that spike was terrible and was Garrett's call. When did he get offered the HC job? After parcells stacked our team with talent. And because jerry was so in love with his dad he told garrett he will pay him the same amount as the HC and then blow out our HC mid season. Sounds like a great way to do things.

Ok, so you're talking about the spike and not a kneel down. I disagree with how terrible it was in that situation, but I do agree it'd have been better to run a play.

When did he get offered which HC job? The Baltimore one? The Atlanta one? Or the Cowboys one? The Cowboys one was years after Parcels had left and just as that stacked talent started aging out and needing replacement. Including retooling the entire OL and the decline and deterioration of Spears, Ratliff, Ware, and Spencer on the way to a franchise-worst defense in, what, 2012?

We can have this conversation if you want to, but let's at least try to get on the same page re: what we're talking about and when it happened.

 

[khiladi]

Do people still waste their time watching this caricature anymore?

 

[Hennessy_King]

Ok, so you're talking about the spike and not a kneel down. I disagree with how terrible it was in that situation, but I do agree it'd have been better to run a play.

When did he get offered which HC job? The Baltimore one? The Atlanta one? Or the Cowboys one? The Cowboys one was years after Parcels had left and just as that stacked talent started aging out and needing replacement. Including retooling the entire OL and the decline and deterioration of Spears, Ratliff, Ware, and Spencer on the way to a franchise-worst defense in, what, 2012?

We can have this conversation if you want to, but let's at least try to get on the same page re: what we're talking about and when it happened.

2013 was the worst defense. 2007 we had the best record at 13-3 and one of the most talented teams since the early 90's. He was O coord. then. He got the offers before the 08 season but jerry offered him a head coaches salary to be the OC and guarantee him a HC position.

In January 2008, Garrett interviewed for the head coaching job of the Baltimore Ravens and the Atlanta Falcons receiving offers from both, but ultimately opted to remain in Dallas. His salary for the 2008 season was nearly $3 million; the highest salary for an assistant coach in the NFL at the time.

They said a team in that clock situation with that many timeouts has only spiked the ball like one other time. Garrett can't see past his face. He should have known to run down the clock some more with a timeout. The worst case planned scenario happened and he didn't think that far ahead.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

Do people still waste their time watching this caricature anymore?

 

[Haimerej]

1-2, .333 post season in 7 years as HC. As intimidating as a wet rag. Past time for a real coach.

Completely irrelevant to what I wrote. My point was he's not trying to intimidate. I also asked why people think coaches need to be intimidating.

 

[Haimerej]

Never thought I'd ever see anyone accuse you and America's Cowboy of being the same person. But you're right, this is great. High quality entertainment leading up to the draft.

Right? As far as I can tell the only point we made that was even close to similar was that Landry took 11 years to get 2 playoff wins. Dude seems to think two different people can't look at historical stats and then relay those facts without being the same person.

 

[Haimerej]

First off, Texas, you're a reasonable poster and it's my experience that you're alway respectful towards the players and the organization when you criticize, which is all I ever care about. We all mix it up with other posters from time to time, and that's fine, but you're a reasonable poster, so I always take your criticism seriously.

If I may interject-

This is my first interaction with @TexasFrog. Whatever history he has as a reasonable guy, he's not made a good first impression with me. He quoted me in another thread and called me a liar. That's literally the first thing he ever said to me. "Stop lying..." I was taken aback and then he started accusing me of being someone's sock puppet. So I found my way over here where he continued his b.s., even calling me a troll because I flat out told him I wasn't who he accused me of being.

I'm not one to back away from stupid internet arguments, as those who know me from the dead board could tell you. I also like to have fun. I don't take anything on here personally and as I said earlier in this thread, I don't even consider this, "fighting." If possible, someone could check my and AC's IP to show, "Mr. Reasonable," that we're two different people. That would be appreciated.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

Completely irrelevant to what I wrote. My point was he's not trying to intimidate. I also asked why people think coaches need to be intimidating.

Well than a lot good shaming is doing 1-2, .333 post season in 7 years as HC. Fake coach. The Star deserves better.

 

[Miller]

If I may interject-

This is my first interaction with @TexasFrog. Whatever history he has as a reasonable guy, he's not made a good first impression with me. He quoted me in another thread and called me a liar. That's literally the first thing he ever said to me. "Stop lying..." I was taken aback and then he started accusing me of being someone's sock puppet. So I found my way over here where he continued his b.s., even calling me a troll because I flat out told him I wasn't who he accused me of being.

I'm not one to back away from stupid internet arguments, as those who know me from the dead board could tell you. I also like to have fun. I don't take anything on here personally and as I said earlier in this thread, I don't even consider this, "fighting." If possible, someone could check my and AC's IP to show, "Mr. Reasonable," that we're two different people. That would be appreciated.

Dude, sorry you are upset but you chasing me around isnt necessary. You commented earlier. Ive been on the boards awhile. You and the other guy posted the EXACT same Landry material in two different threads within a certain time frame with the EXACT same statements regarding 7th and 11th year, etc. It’s happened here before so it was a red flag. And you both getting defensive was strange. I called yalls posts out because it’s disingenuous to take what Landry did with an expansion team and what he did from 66 on and say they are similar. Especially acting like there was a failure between 66 and 71 due to “playoff failure.” They are completely not even close. This type of debate happens here. You seem to be taking it personally. If you were offended, sorry but I’m not going to act like JG is Landry. I get along with a majority here despite my stances. If you and your pal want to giggle amongst yourselves and name call like you did late last night..go for it. I’m just not going to bite. A majority of your last posts are just attacks on me. It’s kind of strange unless I hit a nerve.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Still nothing huh? Maybe it's time for another crying meme to symbolize your empty rhetoric, embracing of nepotism, mediocrity and a .333 post season record.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

 

[America's Cowboy]

 

[America's Cowboy]

Still nothing huh? Maybe it's time for another crying meme to symbolize your empty rhetoric, embracing of nepotism, mediocrity and a .333 post season record.

 

[Haimerej]

Dude, sorry you are upset but you chasing me around isnt necessary. You commented earlier. Ive been on the boards awhile. You and the other guy posted the EXACT same Landry material in two different threads within a certain time frame with the EXACT same statements regarding 7th and 11th year, etc. It’s happened here before so it was a red flag. And you both getting defensive was strange. I called yalls posts out because it’s disingenuous to take what Landry did with an expansion team and what he did from 66 on and say they are similar. Especially acting like there was a failure between 66 and 71 due to “playoff failure.” They are completely not even close. This type of debate happens here. You seem to be taking it personally. If you were offended, sorry but I’m not going to act like JG is Landry. I get along with a majority here despite my stances. If you and your pal want to giggle amongst yourselves and name call like you did late last night..go for it. I’m just not going to bite. A majority of your last posts are just attacks on me. It’s kind of strange unless I hit a nerve.

I'm not offended by your Landry view, believe me. I'm not even offended. Your willingness to apologize shows you're a good guy.

Those posts last night were two guys that kind of know each other screwing around because they haven't communicated in a while. I haven't been posting like I used to. I just want to make sure you know I'm me and not him.

For the record, though... again... you literally called me a liar right out of the gate. I had no idea about you and AC's back and forth here. Like I said, I'm not upset and take nothing personal on the internet, but here you are calling two guys joking about being called the same person a personal attack. I was just having fun. No hard feelings. But it is funny to see you bring up, "personal attacks," after calling someone a liar and a troll.

But hey, if you'd like to continue, what makes it disingenuous? I mean '66 was year 7 for Landry. I don't care about expansion team by year 7. He's had time to build. Just like Garrett. There's no excuses. This is the team he's built. He's here. He's going to coach this year and he could win a playoff game. Would that bother you?

 

[Haimerej]

Well than a lot good shaming is doing 1-2, .333 post season in 7 years as HC. Fake coach. The Star deserves better.

At least you addressed my point?