Cowboys Are Best Road Team. By Far

[CPanther95]

I need to attend to a few household things. My controversial questions will



I said I’ve got a few controversial questions upcoming, not that I have Magical answers for the home game woes. (Maybe a couple of ideas)

I do promise I’ll post those shortly.

I was just offering up something we could argue about while we wait.

 

[AdamJT13]

Best at what? Reg-sea road record against cumulative mediocre comp?

The Romo/Dak teams are 8-2 on the road over the past four seasons against teams that finished with a winning record in their other games, including a 5-2 road record against teams that finished with 10 wins or more.

It doesn’t matter where you win; only that you win enough to make the postseason and can then beat each week’s opponent — no matter where you play.

You're missing the entire point of this thread. For whatever reason, we've been very good at winning on the road -- no matter the competition -- and not good at winning at home.

 

[T-RO]

OK...here it is: Controversial question #1:

Who is more responsible for the Boys not climbing further:
A. Jason Garrett or
B. The Cowboys 12th man...who chronically refuses to show up on game day?

While I don’t believe Garrett to be anything special as a coach...he has prepared his team in such a fashion that they are top dogs on the road.

But the 12th man at home games? He’s missing in action, which I believe is sometimes overtly deflating to the team.

Could the very fan who goes to the game, sits on his ***...and slams Garrett afterwards...be in fact more at the center of the problem than Garrett himself?

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Imagine if Garrett were a good coach. I can’t wait until we win a title with this guy and a whole bevy of basement dwellers get to eat a dump truck full of crow.

 

[408Cowboy]

OK...here it is: Controversial question #1:

Who is more responsible for the Boys not climbing further:
A. Jason Garrett or
B. The Cowboys 12th man...who chronically refuses to show up on game day?

While I don’t believe Garrett to be anything special as a coach...he has prepared his team in such a fashion that they are top dogs on the road.

But the 12th man at home games? He’s missing in action, which I believe is sometimes overtly deflating to the team.

Could the very fan who goes to the game, sits on his ***...and slams Garrett afterwards...be in fact be more at the center of the problem than Garrett himself?

4 pages for this seems underwhelming

 

[RoboQB]

That's it?

Who's fault is it!?!
Garrett or the fans!?!

Well, if those are the only two options, it's Garrett's fault.
But the home crowd sucks.

Think of the stadiums in Seattle, KC, Denver, Minnesota. It's loud.
The loudest it gets in JerryWorld is when OUR offense is trying to score from the 1 yard line... smh

 

[408Cowboy]

That's it?

Who's fault is it!?!
Garrett or the fans!?!

Well, if those are the only two options, it's Garrett's fault.
But the home crowd sucks.

Think of the stadiums in Seattle, KC, Denver, Minnesota. It's loud.
The loudest it gets in JerryWorld is when OUR offense is trying to score from the 1 yard line... smh

I feel ha just gave Diehardblues another excuse for Garrett

 

[T-RO]

I find it impossible to believe if we had a home venue like the Vikings or ‘Hawks...that we wouldn’t have won at least 2/3 of our home games...likely more.

Please watch the videos and tell me otherwise, if you think


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=

 

[T-RO]

We should be winning as many or more home games as roadies. If our team merely played as well at home as on the road we’d have enjoyed 14-2 type seasons. With a fortress of fans going crazy we’d be winning LOTS more home games.

Do that and you have two home games before the Super Bowl. And if we had crazy 12th man...I believe playoff results would be quite different.

I’ll add a caveat a little later, but I don’t want to dull the blade here. Do we need another DT or WR? Perhaps more than anything we need the 12th man.

 

[T-RO]

Tomorrow I’ll offer 3 things Jerry could do to encourage...and fabricate...more Fire in the Fan Furnace.

 

[T-RO]

That's it?

Who's fault is it!?!
Garrett or the fans!?!

Well, if those are the only two options, it's Garrett's fault.
But the home crowd sucks.

Think of the stadiums in Seattle, KC, Denver, Minnesota. It's loud.
The loudest it gets in JerryWorld is when OUR offense is trying to score from the 1 yard line... smh

If the Dallas fans ever showed up...and held up their end of it...what is Garrett’s record?

 

[RoboQB]

If the Dallas fans ever showed up...and held up their end of it...what is Garrett’s record?

I had a response but deleted it.

I don't want to argue that the fans aren't responsible. I don't want to think we have a coach reliant on fans participation.
So I'm trying to block that out... lol.

I'm a road Cowboys fan although I haven't gone in a few years. I can tell you it is an absolute blissful feeling watching
drunken sad Commanders fans herd out of FedEx Field with 8 minutes left in the game. I'd say there was around 30,000
of us that completely took over the place.

I also don't want to come off as a Garrett hater. I just prefer a bit more of a sideline presence.
As a child, it was Tom Landry. He was stoic and firm. Win or lose, it was all about the man in the hat.
As a young adult now of legal age for alcoholic consumption, it was Jimmy Johnson. The attitude
of Jimmy's team on game day was furocius. Young lions not afraid of anyone but the coach.
"We Will Win.... and you can put it in a 3-inch headline".

Maybe this will finally be the year it all falls into place for Garrett.

 

[plasticman]

Since it's construction, AT&T stadium gives the worse "home field advantage" to it's team of the 32 stadiums in the NFL. In fact,since moving into Jerry World in 2009,the Cowboys have a distinct "homefield disadvantage"

How bad?

Since 2009,the Cowboys are the only team in the NFL that have won more on the road than at home. That is pathetic.

Homefield advantage is the degree to which a team benefits from playing at home rather than away or at a neutral site. Mathematically then, It is the difference in success or lack of success between the home games and away games.This is regardless of a team's overall success.
The numbers are taken by subtracting each teams away win percentage from their home win percentage.

For example, since 2009, the Minnesota Vikings have won 66.7% of their home games and 38.0% of their away games, a difference of 28.6% which is good for 2nd place among teams.

The Cowboys have won 51.4% of their home games and 58.3% of their away for a difference of -6.9%, the only negative score and obviously last place anong NFL teams.

Even if a team only won 20% of their home games, if they won only 10% of their away games, then they would still have a home field advantage of 10%

Here is the complete list since 2009:

1 BAL 31.94%
2 MIN 28.64%
3 SEA 24.35%
4 GNB 23.30%
5 ARI 21.73%
6 BUF 20.83%
7 JAX 20.83%
8 NWE 19.44%
9 SFO 18.88%
10 CLE 16.67%
11 DET 15.28%
12 IND 15.28%
13 NOR 15.28%
14 CIN 14.25%
15 DEN 13.89%
16 HOU 13.89%
17 NYJ 13.89%
18 PIT 13.89%
19 CAR 13.26%
20 LAC 12.50%
21 ATL 11.11%
22 WAS 10.64%
23 NYG 9.72%
24 OAK 9.72%
25 TEN 9.72%
26 KAN 8.33%
27 CHI 6.94%
28 MIA 6.94%
29 LAR 5.09%
30 PHI 2.78%
31 TAM 0.00%
32 DAL -6.94%

It should be no surprise to see teams such as the Seahawks, Packers,and Vikings near the top of the list and I knew the Ravens like to play at home but I didn't expect to see them in 1st place.

All 4 NFC East teams are in the bottom 11 teams or the bottom third of the NFL My theory for this would be the intensity of the rivalries within the division actually give NFC east teams an added incentive to win away games in that they get to cruelly disappoint their opponent's fans, something they relish given the verbal abuse and emotional torment they typically experience in those cities.

I also have a theory that teams with traditionally strong defenses benefit more at home but that is a theory....for now.

Why are the Cowboys in last place? Why does their stadium seem to lend aide and comfort to their enemies?

The answer is simple. This stadium was not designed to give the team any kind of advantage in terms of fan support.Instead, it was designed to bring in more revenue by making the stadium comfortable and friendly to opponent fans.The stadium is a tourist attraction that NFL fans of all teams can appreciate. And, what better way to appreciate it then to visit it on a day that your team is playing the Cowboys?

The stadium is spacious but acoustics are often very poor so a large part of the noise generated by a crowd is buffered

Everything you love from home is there, from Philly Cheesesteak sandwiches to New York style pizza.

The stadium represents the conflict of interest that exists when the team owner is also the team GM.

Unfortunately for the Cowboys,successful seasons require that the team be road warriors.

 

[ghst187]

Too many distractions at home?

And a total non-home field advantage due to a number of factors, fans are too civil, too quiet, stadium configuration, the coach sucks...

I think we are way more focused on the road.

 

[T-RO]

I had a response but deleted it.

I don't want to argue that the fans aren't responsible. I don't want to think we have a coach reliant on fans participation.
So I'm trying to block that out... lol.

I'm a road Cowboys fan although I haven't gone in a few years. I can tell you it is an absolute blissful feeling watching
drunken sad Commanders fans herd out of FedEx Field with 8 minutes left in the game. I'd say there was around 30,000
of us that completely took over the place.

I also don't want to come off as a Garrett hater. I just prefer a bit more of a sideline presence.
As a child, it was Tom Landry. He was stoic and firm. Win or lose, it was all about the man in the hat.
As a young adult now of legal age for alcoholic consumption, it was Jimmy Johnson. The attitude
of Jimmy's team on game day was furocius. Young lions not afraid of anyone but the coach.
"We Will Win.... and you can put it in a 3-inch headline".

Maybe this will finally be the year it all falls into place for Garrett.

From where I sit I don’t find Garrett inspirational. And I agree w/several other common criticisms (predictability, etc).

But it’s really hard to stare at that 21-4 road mark and not concede Garrett and the team are definitely doing a lot of things the right way...doing some things super well. Someone would need to scramble through the NFL records to find any other team in history that has done that on the road over 3-4 seasons. I doubt there have been more than 5 teams to ever surpass it.

Then it’s so bizarre and contradictory and dark to see what happens at home. Sure there are other possible factors but the elephant in the room is fan support.

I agree that acoustics factor in, but I’ve been at enough games in Irving to say...it’s a very sedate, and gentil. Fans sometimes feed off the energy on the field...they rarely feed into it.

The fan culture in Dallas lacks that spirit that says, “I’m really a participant in today’s game. I’m going to make a difference.” Fans there want to applaud the action...not make it happen.

 

[T-RO]

And a total non-home field advantage due to a number of factors, fans are too civil, too quiet, stadium configuration, the coach sucks...

How is it possible that a coach w/a 21-4 road record* sucks? That’s incomprehensibly difficult to achieve in the NFL. I’m simple. I’m open to arguments. Walk me through it.

*21-4 over 4 years...with either Dak or Tony at the helm

 

[Melonfeud]

Since it's construction, AT&T stadium gives the worse "home field advantage" to it's team of the 32 stadiums in the NFL. In fact,since moving into Jerry World in 2009,the Cowboys have a distinct "homefield disadvantage"

How bad?

Since 2009,the Cowboys are the only team in the NFL that have won more on the road than at home. That is pathetic.

Homefield advantage is the degree to which a team benefits from playing at home rather than away or at a neutral site. Mathematically then, It is the difference in success or lack of success between the home games and away games.This is regardless of a team's overall success.
The numbers are taken by subtracting each teams away win percentage from their home win percentage.

For example, since 2009, the Minnesota Vikings have won 66.7% of their home games and 38.0% of their away games, a difference of 28.6% which is good for 2nd place among teams.

The Cowboys have won 51.4% of their home games and 58.3% of their away for a difference of -6.9%, the only negative score and obviously last place anong NFL teams.

Even if a team only won 20% of their home games, if they won only 10% of their away games, then they would still have a home field advantage of 10%

Here is the complete list since 2009:

1 BAL 31.94%
2 MIN 28.64%
3 SEA 24.35%
4 GNB 23.30%
5 ARI 21.73%
6 BUF 20.83%
7 JAX 20.83%
8 NWE 19.44%
9 SFO 18.88%
10 CLE 16.67%
11 DET 15.28%
12 IND 15.28%
13 NOR 15.28%
14 CIN 14.25%
15 DEN 13.89%
16 HOU 13.89%
17 NYJ 13.89%
18 PIT 13.89%
19 CAR 13.26%
20 LAC 12.50%
21 ATL 11.11%
22 WAS 10.64%
23 NYG 9.72%
24 OAK 9.72%
25 TEN 9.72%
26 KAN 8.33%
27 CHI 6.94%
28 MIA 6.94%
29 LAR 5.09%
30 PHI 2.78%
31 TAM 0.00%
32 DAL -6.94%

It should be no surprise to see teams such as the Seahawks, Packers,and Vikings near the top of the list and I knew the Ravens like to play at home but I didn't expect to see them in 1st place.

All 4 NFC East teams are in the bottom 11 teams or the bottom third of the NFL My theory for this would be the intensity of the rivalries within the division actually give NFC east teams an added incentive to win away games in that they get to cruelly disappoint their opponent's fans, something they relish given the verbal abuse and emotional torment they typically experience in those cities.

I also have a theory that teams with traditionally strong defenses benefit more at home but that is a theory....for now.

Why are the Cowboys in last place? Why does their stadium seem to lend aide and comfort to their enemies?

The answer is simple. This stadium was not designed to give the team any kind of advantage in terms of fan support.Instead, it was designed to bring in more revenue by making the stadium comfortable and friendly to opponent fans.The stadium is a tourist attraction that NFL fans of all teams can appreciate. And, what better way to appreciate it then to visit it on a day that your team is playing the Cowboys?

The stadium is spacious but acoustics are often very poor so a large part of the noise generated by a crowd is buffered

Everything you love from home is there, from Philly Cheesesteak sandwiches to New York style pizza.

The stadium represents the conflict of interest that exists when the team owner is also the team GM.

Unfortunately for the Cowboys,successful seasons require that the team be road warriors.

OHhhhh! Slam,blame,thank you,man!

For that 'stunner' post

 

[Melonfeud]

From where I sit I don’t find Garrett inspirational. And I agree w/several other common criticisms (predictability, etc).

But it’s really hard to stare at that 21-4 road mark and not concede Garrett and the team are definitely doing a lot of things the right way...doing some things super well. Someone would need to scramble through the NFL records to find any other team in history that has done that on the road over 3-4 seasons. I doubt there have been more than 5 teams to ever surpass it.

Then it’s so bizarre and contradictory and dark to see what happens at home. Sure there are other possible factors but the elephant in the room is fan support.

I agree that acoustics factor in, but I’ve been at enough games in Irving to say...it’s a very sedate, and gentil. Fans sometimes feed off the energy on the field...they rarely feed into it.

The fan culture in Dallas lacks that spirit that says, “I’m really a participant in today’s game. I’m going to make a difference.” Fans there want to applaud the action...not make it happen.

Prolly cuz' the majority of home field fans are of the " Man in the Hat" style of reserved,Stoic style,,,after experiencing the
Same( as of yet)unsurpassed level of success he'd consistently provided, plus you are dealing with actual dyed in the wool Texans Too,,,whom, thru my personal observations in life & of dealing with some of them, definitely hold a pretty high opinion of themselves & would never publicly " act the fool" like Washington's "Hogs" ,sling expired/spent vibrator batteries at opponents in a criminally jailable fashion like the filth of Philly or be winging their empty monogrammed sterling silver empty Hip Pocket whiskey flasks at the officiating personnel like those ice hole fishermen up in Minnesota ,ya know?

 

[Hadenough]

They're not good on the road, they've just played crappy teams.

2014
Titans 2-14
Rams 6-10
Seattle 12-4
Jacksonville 3-13
Giants 6-10
Bears 5-11
Eagles 10-6
Commanders 4-12

2015
Eagles 7-9
Dolphins 6-10
Commanders 9-7

2016
Commanders 8-7-1
49ers 2-14
Packers 10-6
Browns 1-15
Steelers 11-5
Vikings 8-8

2017
Cardinals 8-8
49ers 6-10
Commanders 7-9
Giants 3-13
Raiders 6-10
Eagles 13-3

They have 7 road wins against teams that finished with a winning record, one of those was the 8-7-1 Skins and another was the Eagles with all of their starters benched in a meaningless week 17 game. There are 3 good wins on this list - Seattle, GB, and Pitt.

WOW! kind of confirmed my suspicions!

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

That's because we have no home field.