Interesting Tony Romo nugget

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So name the “bad timing” with “turnovers” in “crucial” games, and then explain exactly how it is worse than any of the other QBs who also made the same mistakes. You can’t, because they don’t exist.
In truth there was always just one: the ill-fated pass he tried to loop against the Commanders in 2012.[/QU

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They happen all the time to other QB's (top notch). The media and haters were just very good to point out every one of them. Brees, Brady, Rothlesburger, all have thrown interceptions in critical situations multiple times. They all do it. The difference between them and Romo was that typically their defense would make a stop or get the ball back to them.

The biggest problem I have with how it ended was that they should have given him his job back. Or if they didn't, at least let him "compete" for it the following year. He never had a fair shot at competition with Dak. At the end of the day, all that magic of that ended the same way it has over the past several years, a loss in the playoffs. One and done.
Prescott played lights out vs. GB in the 2016 playoffs, shouldn't he be afforded the poor defense excuse?
 

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They happen all the time to other QB's (top notch). The media and haters were just very good to point out every one of them. Brees, Brady, Rothlesburger, all have thrown interceptions in critical situations multiple times. They all do it. The difference between them and Romo was that typically their defense would make a stop or get the ball back to them.
^This.
 

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Prescott played lights out vs. GB in the 2016 playoffs, shouldn't he be afforded the poor defense excuse?[/QUOTE

I didn't blame the loss on Dak, but yes, the defense was trash that day too. If you have been around this board for any period of time, you know darn well that they blamed everything on Romo. Shoot you just did it a few posts ago. :) Dak followed up with a lackluster second season and here we are. If he fails to get this team to the playoffs or win a playoff game, this board will be calling for his head even more..
 

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Remember the context of this line of discussion, which was the idea that the Cowboys fan base was "giddy" over Romo not being the starter. My thoughts regarding the point in time Romo was cleared to play again is that few people were "giddy" over Romo not getting the job back, and that there were a lot of fans that were upset he didn't, and that the majority of the ones that favored keeping Dak as the starter didn't feel that way out of some animosity toward Romo that would cause them to feel "giddy" about him not playing anymore, but rather because Romo's health had resulted in the team being unable to count on him for most of two seasons.

If you want me to flesh out what I'm saying a little more, most of those people who favored keeping Dak as the starter when Romo was cleared to play weren't calling for Romo's head while he was healthy, but because Romo was having persistent injury problems, and was getting older anyway, and we had a bright young star winning game after game, they felt the time had come for a change. In other words, it wasn't a matter of being giddy, it was a matter of following what they felt was a reasonable thought process.
I have not strayed from context. And I get your perspective mostly except for "...and that there were a lot of fans that were upset he didn't..."

Thanks for the reply.
 

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I have not strayed from context. And I get your perspective mostly except for "...and that there were a lot of fans that were upset he didn't..."

Thanks for the reply.

You didn't notice there were a lot of fans that were upset Romo didn't get his job back? On sites like this the debate over whether Romo should get his job back was very prominent and often very heated. For that matter, even some fans that wanted to stick out the 2016 season with Dak still felt Romo should have been given an equal chance to compete for the job in 2017. Bottom line is it's just plain false to act as if almost all the fanbase was "giddy" over Romo losing his job.
 

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You didn't notice there were a lot of fans that were upset Romo didn't get his job back? On sites like this the debate over whether Romo should get his job back was very prominent and often very heated. For that matter, even some fans that wanted to stick out the 2016 season with Dak still felt Romo should have been given an equal chance to compete for the job in 2017. Bottom line is it's just plain false to act as if almost all the fanbase was "giddy" over Romo losing his job.
In my opinion (and perhaps my singular opinion), the phrase 'a lot' equates as 'majority'. I agree fans were upset when Romo did not return as the starter. I disagree with the observation a lot of fans were upset when Romo did not return as the starter. It would be wrong to put words into someone else's mouth (so to speak). However, I would have agreed if you had stated '...there were some fans who were upset that he didn't...' because, again in my opinion, that would have accurately reflected fan reaction.
 

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Fwiw, the best team he had was in his 1st full season as starter, in 2007

I saw the Giants game mentioned earlier....The Giants ended up beating everyone in the playoffs that year, btw. QBs were, Brady, Favre, Garcia, Romo

but anyway, here was the final drive by Dallas:

--Romo pass complete to Barber to 9 yards
--Barber -1 yard rush
--Romo pass complete to Witten for 18 yards..1st down
--False start -5 yards Columbo
--Romo pass complete to Witten 4 yards
--Romo pass incomplete to Witten
--*Romo pass incomplete to Crayton---this was the game-winner. perfect pass in endzone and Crayton broke his route. Clear as day
--4th down...cannot throw away or take sack....Romo incomplete/intercepted in end zone. But that was a no choice deal, unless he wanted to save his stats and throw it away.
 

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Exactly....not realizing it takes your BEST coaching/ GM job going for a Super Bowl following an excellent season of being this close. Excellent example........god I hate saying this, but how the Eagles treated their offseason. Like the Super Bowl never happen......
Well, we have yet to see if it translates into a successful title defense.
 

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No it dosent and when coming back from an injury in a preseason game it makes even less sense .
It looked like the right side caved in (Free got beat again) and Romo ran for an open space to get down. Free got beat so bad that his man got Romo from behind (so blind from his view) while he was going down.
 

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I still think the two final injuries Romo got were kinda freakish than they were "body breaking down" - I've broken my collarbone the exact same way Romo broke his. There was a problem with the way he would protect his body when going to the ground, seemed to be a bit of instinct.

The same went for the back injury in the preseason game. I have no doubt if it wasn't for Dak getting the starting job, I believe Romo would still be our starting QB right now.
 

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Joe Randell wasn't a problem?????? D McFadden scared no one......I know about his YPC average. FO placed all their marbles in Randell and fail to draft/sign a decent replacement for Murray. Instead, relying on the silly any running back can run behind this line theme.


That still have me baffled why the FO squandered away that opportunity especially when there was a deep draft of runningbacks in the draft that year.
 

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In my opinion (and perhaps my singular opinion), the phrase 'a lot' equates as 'majority'. I agree fans were upset when Romo did not return as the starter. I disagree with the observation a lot of fans were upset when Romo did not return as the starter. It would be wrong to put words into someone else's mouth (so to speak). However, I would have agreed if you had stated '...there were some fans who were upset that he didn't...' because, again in my opinion, that would have accurately reflected fan reaction.

I didn't mean it as "majority". I just meant it as being a notable number. Again, the context was the idea that the fan base was giddy over Romo not playing QB - the poster in question didn't just restrict it to some fraction of the fan base that was giddy, he laid that accusation on the fan base as a whole, without limitation.

My intention was to say the majority of people were either for re-installing Romo as the starter, or were for keeping Dak as the starter based on Romo's age and injuries, along with Dak's performance, and that only a very small number would fall in a category that could be described as anything remotely like "giddy" over Romo staying on the bench.

For me this is like what we see too much in politics these days, which is indicating that the extremists are representative of the larger body. The reality is the extremists are merely the most vocal, such as those who took a hard core anti-Romo stance, but they are not representative of the fan base as a whole.
 

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Not really. Chuck Norris has actually won a championship in his sport; several in fact. Can't say the same about Romo.

Chuck Norris was in a sport that didn't rely on multiple other players.

Dumb argument has always been dumb. It's something people like you have been attempting since 2006.
 
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