Interesting Tony Romo nugget

[DallasEast]

Most people were fine with Romo as the starter before health became an issue.

I could debate the word 'most' but that was not what I was hoping to have clarified. Prescott was made the permanent starter and everyone had their own opinions concerning Romo's health. So my question for clarification sought to find out whether you were referring to the point in time when Romo was declared healthy for his return as starter but was summarily denied the opportunity by Jones and Garrett. I apologize if I assumed incorrectly and do not seek clarification if that was not the case.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

This is exaggerated and misleading. There may have been a few that were "giddy", but those extremists aren't reflective of the majority of the fan base. The reality is a considerable portion of the fan base was upset Romo wasn't give the job back, and the majority of those who favored keeping Dak as the starter would have been fine with Romo had the injuries not been such a problem for 2 seasons.

+1 .......I remember most these same fans admitting even as good as Dak was playing, a HEALTHY Romo was better w/o question but healthy is the key word.

 

[OmerV]

The vast majority of people on this forum did not want Romo back in the lineup in the midst of Dak and Co on a win streak that extended right into the last week of the regular season. Romo should have been reinserted. Was a stupid gambit then and remains a stupid gambit now.

Saying the majority of people on this forum didn't want Romo back in the lineup is entirely different than saying the fanbase was giddy over it. Again, you are dealing in exaggeration.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

You are generalizing - taking the belief of a small number of fans with extreme views and attributing their beliefs to the entirety of the fan base. I suspect the problem is you are just as extreme on the other side. It makes for a weak argument because extremists have no ability to deal in or discuss anything but extremes, and the reality the majority of people are almost always more in the middle.

Heck, anyone that has spent any time on this site knows there were a lot of people that not only felt Romo should have got the job back, but were flat angry that he didn't. The proof of what I say is right here in this website. To this day there are still a lot of fans arguing that.

Romo fans living in a dream world. 2 straight seasons of being knocked out was enough for me. Tired of waiting for a QB that could never see the field. Even if he was re-enstated he would have only lasted a game or two and I'm being kind with that estimation. But that's where a lot of the Dak hate is coming from. Some can't get over it.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Then what did Jerry say? Moral victory, chucklehead.

We had a lot of moral victories during the Romo years. We should have gotten a trophy for it.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I'm in the minority but I have always thought Romo was a good QB not a great QB
Great QBs relish the stage and want to be put in positions to win the big one
Romo was never that
He was content to be "good"
His initial quote of "if this is the worst thing that happens then I'll have had a pretty good life" was the real window into his personality
He way 'over achieved ' from his own expectations and that was good enough for him
We fans just were never willing to see that and he was smart enough to never let that show again

That's when I had my first doubt we would win one with him.

 

[DFWJC]

I love Romo but agree he didn't have that killer instinct.

The opposite, in my opinion.
That's why they had more 4th qtr last minute wins than any other team for awhile, and also why he made some bad mistakes...because he DID go for the throat so often.
The last thing he ever did was shy away from a challenge...many would say he was even too aggressive at times. btw, the pass to dez vs GB was not one of them...imo.

 

[OmerV]

I could debate the word 'most' but that was not what I was hoping to have clarified. Prescott was made the permanent starter and everyone had their own opinions concerning Romo's health. So my question for clarification sought to find out whether you were referring to the point in time when Romo was declared healthy for his return as starter but was summarily denied the opportunity by Jones and Garrett. I apologize if I assumed incorrectly and do not seek clarification if that was not the case.

Remember the context of this line of discussion, which was the idea that the Cowboys fan base was "giddy" over Romo not being the starter. My thoughts regarding the point in time Romo was cleared to play again is that few people were "giddy" over Romo not getting the job back, and that there were a lot of fans that were upset he didn't, and that the majority of the ones that favored keeping Dak as the starter didn't feel that way out of some animosity toward Romo that would cause them to feel "giddy" about him not playing anymore, but rather because Romo's health had resulted in the team being unable to count on him for most of two seasons.

If you want me to flesh out what I'm saying a little more, most of those people who favored keeping Dak as the starter when Romo was cleared to play weren't calling for Romo's head while he was healthy, but because Romo was having persistent injury problems, and was getting older anyway, and we had a bright young star winning game after game, they felt the time had come for a change. In other words, it wasn't a matter of being giddy, it was a matter of following what they felt was a reasonable thought process.

 

[MarcusRock]

If y'all are automatically moving Dez (former Cowboy) threads to the Drama zone ...

 

[Hawkeye0202]

The opposite, in my opinion.
That's why they had more 4th qtr last minute wins than any other team for awhile, and also why he made some bad mistakes...because he DID go for the throat so often.
The last thing he ever did was shy away from a challenge...many would say he was even too aggressive at times. btw, the pass to dez vs GB was not one of them...imo.

Yea I agree but one thing. 35+ years of following NFL I can't ever remember a player having as much BAD TIMING with turnovers in crucial games as Romo did. As if he was he was cursed.........lol

 

[DFWJC]

Yea I agree but one thing. 35+ years of following NFL I can't ever remember a player having as much BAD TIMING with turnovers in crucial games as Romo did. As if he was he was cursed.........lol

Sure seemed that way at times
I can certainly think of about 4-5 of them in his 137 games....and one was on special teams. lol
Not many really. At all
For example, Brady had 4 of those in one season. Last drive turnovers to "lose" the game.

But as die-hard Cowboys fans, man did they hurt when they happened.
We remember them and magnify them 10 fold. And the Cowboys are so often on national TV, the others saw them too and remembered.
Forget all the end-of-game, game winning drives and TD passes (far, FAR more than the other way around) and recall those handful of painfully tragic end of game plays.
Have to admit,...Still hurts at times.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Yea I agree but one thing. 35+ years of following NFL I can't ever remember a player having as much BAD TIMING with turnovers in crucial games as Romo did. As if he was he was cursed.........lol

A few of those times I would say here it comes and sure enough it happened. lol

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Yea I agree but one thing. 35+ years of following NFL I can't ever remember a player having as much BAD TIMING with turnovers in crucial games as Romo did. As if he was he was cursed.........lol

This phony narrative was always enhanced by the fact that “crucial” games could always be defined as early season AFC games that had little bearing on making the playoffs. But let’s not let common sense get in the way here...

 

[NEODOG]

That's tough to listen to. We've been spoiled over the last 10 years and that includes Dak's good season. I'm not saying that Romo is some Hall of Famer, just that I don't want to go back to the days between Aikman and Romo. Those were rough years.

Yeah we had Romo.....and he was HOF at times At the end though, he wasn't Dan Marino or Danny White

Dez catch aside ..... We won nothing of importance

Exceptional at his craft, but not GREAT shouldering the burden

 

[Hawkeye0202]

This phony narrative was always enhanced by the fact that “crucial” games could always be defined as early season AFC games that had little bearing on making the playoffs. But let’s not let common sense get in the way here...

Whatever....

 

[cern]

Seemed a bit flippant for a qb that threw as many picks in critical situations as did Tony.

 

[G2]

This phony narrative was always enhanced by the fact that “crucial” games could always be defined as early season AFC games that had little bearing on making the playoffs. But let’s not let common sense get in the way here...

Was the 2006 Seattle playoff game a phony narrative?
Was 2007 vs. NY phony? Is 50% completion rate phony? How about 200 yards passing? Or the last drive of 3 incomplete passes and an INT?
2008 getting blown out 44-6? 180 yards passing? Was the pick 6 or two fumbles?
2010 vs the Vikings, 2 fumbles and an INT and 198 yards passing.
Or the 3 week 17 failures to miss the playoffs?

Phony narrative?

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Whatever....

So name the “bad timing” with “turnovers” in “crucial” games, and then explain exactly how it is worse than any of the other QBs who also made the same mistakes. You can’t, because they don’t exist.
In truth there was always just one: the ill-fated pass he tried to loop against the Commanders in 2012.

 

[zack]

Yea I agree but one thing. 35+ years of following NFL I can't ever remember a player having as much BAD TIMING with turnovers in crucial games as Romo did. As if he was he was cursed.........lol

They happen all the time to other QB's (top notch). The media and haters were just very good to point out every one of them. Brees, Brady, Rothlesburger, all have thrown interceptions in critical situations multiple times. They all do it. The difference between them and Romo was that typically their defense would make a stop or get the ball back to them.

The biggest problem I have with how it ended was that they should have given him his job back. Or if they didn't, at least let him "compete" for it the following year. He never had a fair shot at competition with Dak. At the end of the day, all that magic of that ended the same way it has over the past several years, a loss in the playoffs. One and done.

 

[DFWJC]

A few of those times I would say here it comes and sure enough it happened. lol

I recall a couple too. Ugly
The one so many bring up was the 2012 week 17 at Washington "Monty Python bridge scene" game. You know, the one where they keep chopping off limbs.

No Miles
No Dez
then No Harris
then No Murray
No line at all
Morris rushing for 200 and 3tds for the skins

they came back with 10 in a row, but then the bad int to end the game with 27 seconds left on our own 25. Some thought he should drive them down the field 75 yards for the win with 27 seconds to go and basically zero players except himself. Still a bad int and poor game by him, regardless of having to almost go it alone that day.

Then the very next year; week 16 win or go home at Washington again, and he does the opposite and throws the game-winning TD with time running out. Very little mention of that. That's just how it goes.

The point is, if someone predicted he would lose it on the final drive with a pick vs winning it with a game-winning drive, they would've been wrong about 27 out of 32-33 times (or >80%) in his career. One of the best rates of success in NFL history.