QB Stats Through Two Years

[Blackrain]

To say dez or romo never looked elite
Proves you either don’t have eyes or any understanding of football.

Or you were born in 2015.


NOT ONE WR has scored more than Dez since 2010. This is a guy who can’t run routes, yet no one could stop him from scoring.

Romo was an MVP caliber player. Hall of fame numbers. Statistically one of the best PASSERS OF ALL TIME.

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Truly Elite Players make the HOF Dez and Romo may have appeared elite at times but not with enough regularity to make the HOF . They both looked real elite when Romo threw a pic and Dez got so mad he walked off the field on him LMAO

 

[Kevinicus]

Truly Elite Players make the HOF Dez and Romo may have appeared elite at times but not with enough regularity to make the HOF . They both looked real elite when Romo threw a pic and Dez got so mad he walked off the field on him LMAO

Compare Romo and Kurt Warner career numbers. They are clearly better for one of them (hint: not the one in the Hall of Fame).

The HOF is not close to infallible.

 

[America's Cowboy]

He will say anything to crap on Prescott.

Several of them will say anything to crap on Dak.

 

[DFWJC]

 

[Established1971]

Total Yards
Aaron Rodgers - 8,995
Peyton Manning - 8,009
Dak Prescott - 7,630
Carson Wentz - 7,534
Tony Romo - 7,345
Dan Marino - 7,332
Tom Brady - 6,780
Drew Brees - 5,627
Joe Montana - 5,532
Roger Staubach - 4,903
Troy Aikman - 4,789

Total TDs
Dan Marino - 71
Aaron Rodgers - 67
Dak Prescott - 57
Tony Romo - 57
Peyton Manning - 54
Carson Wentz - 51
Tom Brady - 48
Roger Staubach - 43
Joe Montana - 38
Drew Brees - 29
Troy Aikman - 21

Completion %
Dak Prescott - 65.2%
Tony Romo - 64.8%
Aaron Rodgers - 64.2%
Joe Montana - 64.0%
Tom Brady - 62.8%
Dan Marino - 62.2%
Carson Wentz - 61.5%
Roger Staubach - 61.4%
Drew Brees - 59.5%
Peyton Manning - 59.3%
Troy Aikman - 55.1%

Yards / Attempt
Roger Staubach - 8.7
Dan Marino - 8.5
Tony Romo - 8.3
Aaron Rodgers - 7.9
Dak Prescott - 7.4
Peyton Manning - 7.1
Joe Montana - 7.0
Carson Wentz - 6.8
Tom Brady - 6.5
Troy Aikman - 6.3
Drew Brees - 6.1

Interceptions
Dak Prescott - 17
Roger Staubach - 19
Aaron Rodgers - 20
Joe Montana - 21
Carson Wentz - 21
Dan Marino - 23
Tom Brady - 26
Drew Brees - 31
Tony Romo - 32
Troy Aikman - 36
Peyton Manning - 43

Passer Rating
Dan Marino - 104.5
Roger Staubach - 98.9
Aaron Rodgers - 98.5
Tony Romo - 96.5
Dak Prescott - 95.5
Carson Wentz - 88.8
Joe Montana - 88.2
Tom Brady - 86.0
Peyton Manning - 80.6
Drew Brees - 73.1
Troy Aikman - 62.0

W/L Record
Dan Marino - 21-4 (84%)
Roger Staubach - 20-4 (83%)
Tony Romo - 19-7 (73%)
Dak Prescott - 22-10 (69%)
Tom Brady - 22-10 (69%)
Joe Montana - 15-8 (65%)
Carson Wentz - 18-11 (62%)
Aaron Rodgers - 17-15 (53%)
Peyton Manning - 16-16 (50%)
Drew Brees - 10-17 (37%)
Troy Aikman - 7-19 (27%)

*sips tea* Mornin’.

what do you mean by "two years"? I assume first two years as a starter? Staubach and Rodgers sat on the bench for years, Romo didnt start right away either

 

[plasticman]

I really don't consider this methodology as a fair assessment. Dak started as a rookie....a rookie.

Redo these stats and look only at the combined rookie and 2nd year numbers.

Dak never got the benefit of acclimating himself to the NFL.He was never "groomed"or "developed". He was flat thrown into the fire.

In their first two seasons:

Rodgers had 31 attempts.
Romo never played a single down at the QB position.
Brady started a total of 14 games. He threw three passes his rookie year.
Staubach threw 128 times,completed 50% with 4 TD's and 10 INT's.

If you include only QB's in their first two seasons that started 24 games or more with 800 pass attempts then you get the ones that were a profound part of their offense. In this group Dak is::

#3 in passer rating (Only 11 QB's in history had more attempts)
#1 in completion percentage
#1 in INT percentage
#7 in yards per attempt
#5 in TD percentage
#3 in yards per game
#2 in wins

Anyone that considers Dak a liability has little understanding of history.....not to mention reality.

 

[Doomsay]

Amazing that Staubach is still so highly ranked. That was a very different passing era he played in.

He was so damn exiting to watch.

 

[DogFace]

Or 1 year samples. 2016 dak is never coming back. This year you're getting what's left over from 2017 Dak.

I agree. All players should be measured by their worst season. That makes total sense.

 

[DogFace]

big difference in letting a guy grow up and spouting he's the best QB ever... kind a sad too.

The op is simply comparing Dak’s first two years with other Qb’s in their first two starting years. That’s not saying that he thinks he’s the best of all time. At all.

It’s a simple comparison, likely a rebuttal to all the clear Dak hating that goes on amongst some fans of team.

 

[DogFace]

don't compare him to guys who's been in the league 10+, lmao because he's better. I read it on here......sad

I missed that. Can you tell me where to read that?

 

[DogFace]

don't worry, in a few minutes somebody will chime in with some stats to prove Check down Charlie is better than Rodgers, Brees, or Brady..... don't trust what your eyes see, it's an illusion..

Again, I’m sorry someone else hasn’t pointed this out, but it’s jusy a comparison of stats.

Dak is often criticized lately. This comparison shows he’s doing fairly well so far. Some are overreacting to a poor second half last year and this shows when you include his second half of last year he’s still doing well when compared to some others first full two years starting who have had excellent careers. Thus showing we shouldn’t write him off yet. Those that do are ignoring the facts and letting their emotions cloud their judegement.

 

[Hadenough]

Total TDs
Dan Marino - 71
Aaron Rodgers - 67
Dak Prescott - 57 this number is really about 45 when you subtract 12 rushing TDs and it looks a little different.
Tony Romo - 57
Peyton Manning - 54
Carson Wentz - 51
Tom Brady - 48
Roger Staubach - 43
Joe Montana - 38
Drew Brees - 29
Troy Aikman - 21

Daks total TDs include 12 rushing TDs which still counts but can be a little misleading when comparing him to other QBs. Yes its great but it takes away from the idea of his pure passing ability which is what you look at when comparing QBs.

 

[G2]

The op is simply comparing Dak’s first two years with other Qb’s in their first two starting years. That’s not saying that he thinks he’s the best of all time. At all.

It’s a simple comparison, likely a rebuttal to all the clear Dak hating that goes on amongst some fans of team.

Exactly. It seems simple, but for some reason some just can't understand it.

 

[Blackrain]

Compare Romo and Kurt Warner career numbers. They are clearly better for one of them (hint: not the one in the Hall of Fame).

The HOF is not close to infallible.

13 Playoff games 9 wins took 2 different teams to SB and won one . Some important stats that Tony didn't have that factored into Kurt making it . Without these Kurt may have missed the cut .

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

You can't compare across eras without adjusting for the league averages of each era.

Dak's 95.5 passer rating ranks 10th over the last two seasons. The league average passer rating is 85.9.

Staubach's 98.5 passer rating in the two seasons you sampled was Beamonesque. It was almost 40 points better than the league average of 60.5, and 11 points higher than that of the next QB (Bob Griese).

Staubach is one of the best QBs ever and the greatest of his era. No denying that. When I saw his numbers, I was impressed they still held up so well. I grade on a curve as well. That’s why the numbers you provided are even more impressive.

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

I still think Prescott has plenty of upside. He has a good strong arm with football intelligence and character. At this stage his accuracy isnt constant enough to carry a team with his arm, which was exposed the last portion of the season. However once he can get proper footwork down to muscle memory, he can become that type of QB that can carry a team.

Very fair and reasonable analysis. I agree with everything you said.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Several of them will say anything to crap on Dak.

pot meet the kettle..........

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

what do you mean by "two years"? I assume first two years as a starter? Staubach and Rodgers sat on the bench for years, Romo didnt start right away either

I know, it’s two years as a starter.

 

[HungryLion]

Daks total TDs include 12 rushing TDs which still counts but can be a little misleading when comparing him to other QBs. Yes its great but it takes away from the idea of his pure passing ability which is what you look at when comparing QBs.

Yes and no. Sure it’s important to compare QB’s passing abilities.

That being said, Dak’s mobility and running ability is part of what makes him who he is, as a QB. If everything else were the same but Dak was a statue QB, then that would make a huge difference in evaluating him as a player and his value as a starter.

But as he is, Dak’s running ability is part of the package that he brings to the table as a player. It’s a positive aspect of his overall skill set. And it’s important to include that part of his skill set when evaluating his overall worth as a player.

While obviously throwing the ball is the most important part of a QB’s play. QB’s don’t just throw the football. Dak’s ball handling skills, his ability to effectively run play action/read options and run pass options is a strength of his and helps the team win football games. So it needs to be taken into consideration.

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

Daks total TDs include 12 rushing TDs which still counts but can be a little misleading when comparing him to other QBs. Yes its great but it takes away from the idea of his pure passing ability which is what you look at when comparing QBs.

No, it’s only misleading if I didn’t include anyone else’s rushing TDs. When you factor in the entirety of the QB position, he scores TDs more often than almost anyone at this point in their careers. If you want an honest idea of his passing ability, the only mostly honest stat is passer rating. Soley looking at passing TDs won’t give you an honest answer. If you go by that, then you’re essentially penalizing Dak for being so effective at rushing the ball.