Dak is not a Franchise QB

[LetsBeReal]

Not sure who the skins and giants backup QBs are but behind Dak is definitely at least the 5th worst qb in the nfc east behind all the starters and foles

 

[IceBowler]

Guys - Dak was a very good college QB when about half the folks you're playing against are going to be Doctors, lawyers, Indian Chiefs and truck drivers. He did this because he could run, was as big as most of the folks trying to tackle him, and didn't mind taking a hit.

The NFL is a whole new game. If he tries to become a prototype pro QB, it ain't happening. You cannot teach nor can you develop a God-given ability to throw a football on a rope for 35 yards and split and index card. He's NEVER had that ability. Mullen at MS ST knew it ... Heck, Dak knows it.

He is our QB for now and we need to try and make the best of things. I am a bit disappointed that our coaches and FO let the first year craziness blind them to what anyone who's ever followed Dak knew. I love the guy - his work ethic, character and desire but, there's an old saying, "You can't make chicken salad outta chicken s..t. We need to begin looking into who can eventually take us where we all wanna go - Sadly, Mr. Prescott is not that guy.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Dak and Zeke are showing their limitations without the "steel wall" OL which is now damaged.
Dak is not and never was expected to be a franchise QB and the Dallas FO now has to deal
with those facts as they face another decade of losses and mediocrity. Zeke also needs holes to run
as the defense stacks 8 and 9 in the box as they do not fear Dak to beat them with the long pass.
The plan to find the next Dallas franchise QB should be on the drawing board right now if they had a
real GM but, I fear that they will waste months as they try to cover up this debacle. Dak should be transitioned out
at the end of the year and Zeke in two years as a new coaching staff identifies the next generation of players and
schemes.

Great Post !

The Dallas Wall and the Dak myth the Jaylon Myth...the Gregory Myth yada yada yada yada i know reality hurts for most but reality is coming real fast for our team....and some here will eat the words of false hopes and dreams they have been selling....

 

[DFWJC]

The Raiders would change positions with us so they wouldn’t be saddled with Carr’s $125 million contract. He was mediocre last year and threw 3 INT’s last night.

Very, very certain they would not.

 

[Dale]

Same goes for Zeke . Other than his rookie year, not a franchise rb.

That's a fair, and understated, point.

As for Dak, there's no doubt he's regressed. There are many flaws to pick at, but my eyeballs leave me wondering if he is hearing footsteps in the pocket now that he's started to take a little bit of a beating back there.

As a rookie, do you recall what the most impressive trait was? His poise. That unflappable calmness. Boy, does that feel like eons ago. Now, even when there isn't much trash around him in the pocket, he's leaving the pocket and bailing on the play.

Looking at things optimistically, I am hopeful that if he can regain some of that poise in the pocket, some of his better rookie-year characteristics will return to fruition. I realize his doubters would criticize that 2016 Dak only threw short -- but at least he was accurate on those short throws. He's all over the place right now, even on the short stuff.

 

[Them]

...No he's not a "Franchise QB" yet....because he won't be franchised till next year...Then he will be a "Franchised QB."...jus' sayin'

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

Enough said! For those who care to remember reality, versus what he have today.

Thanks for making me sad.

 

[lukin2006]

We need better coaching before we decide Dak is not the guy. In his rookie year, with Romo essentially coaching him, he was pretty good. That Dak might still be there, with better coaching.

 

[Clove]

Let's leave Tony oh-no out of these discussions because even though he was a better passer, he was also a wreck waiting to happen and would freeze, just like Dak does, but during important times like the freaking play offs. We don't need Dak, we don't need Romo, we need a high 1st round QB with a live arm and live accuracy.

 

[HowardC]

Enough said! For those who care to remember reality, versus what he have today.

Thanks for sharing. I loved TR9.

 

[HowardC]

Dak and Romo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath talentwise. You can keep being ignorant about how great #9 was but he would have been way more appreciated on any other team.

 

[HowardC]

If you want to be associated with a loser, that's on you. Romo was a loser when it's all said and done, just like Dak is a loser in waiting. We need to get a high #1 pick in here and start something called winning. I know what it's like to win, you're young, you don't know crap yet.

How old do you think I am?

 

[Clove]

How old do you think I am?

Based on intelligence, about 15.

 

[HowardC]

Based on intelligence, about 15.

I guess you must be about 10 then.

 

[Haimerej]

He didn't see a ton of stacked boxes against the Panthers so why didn't he do more? He's a top 5 pick so I expect him to excel just about every game.

15 carries. Many carries coming out of shotgun or 11 personnel against a base front 7. The box may not be stacked, but that's the gameplan defenses are using now because they don't fear Dak. That was DEN's gameplan last year. Don't go into nickel against 11 personnel and it's a lot tougher to run.

 

[Aviano90]

Enough said! For those who care to remember reality, versus what he have today.

Thanks for the video.

Now, for those who care to remember a QB that could deliver on the biggest of stages against the very best teams the NFL had to offer, this is for you. These were some good times Cheers!!

 

[JDSmith]

It’s hard to argue with the point being relayed.

Dak has not been anticipating well at all. And he has not been releasing the ball quick enough.

What I don’t understand is, he was better at this earlier in his career. He wasn’t perfect by any means, but his accuracy and anticipation were better during his rookie season and first half of last year.

His play has fallen off a cliff since Atlanta.

The question is, are the reasons his play has fallen off, correctable? I used to think they were. But I am now second guessing that unless I start to see progress again.

I have to disagree. He was never good at anticipating and releasing the ball quickly. Go back and watch his rookie season, he had guys wide open. Throwing to a guy who's uncovered doesn't require timing, he just saw the open man and hit him. It was one of the big arguments for going back to Romo - I think it was Marcus Mosher who first said it on a podcast. He said something along the lines of "Dak can throw to an open receiver, Romo can throw a receiver open." And that's exactly the truth, it's what they mean when they talk about throwing a receiver open. Dak has NEVER done that in his career with any consistency. And in this league you need to be able to do that or you'll have a short career. Dak is still throwing to the open man now, only defenses aren't leaving guys as open - or they are making sure that the guys who are uncovered are where Dak isn't as comfortable throwing. They are clogging the parts of the field where Dak is comfortable. Dak had exactly the same success Sunday as he did as a rookie - his greatest success came when he was throwing to a wide open Beasley.

The only big difference that I can see in his performance is that he's under more pressure from the defense now and he's skittish as hell. He had a lot of time as a rookie, he was playing with a phenomenal line and teams were scared to death that Zeke would beat them. Now he's playing behind what I'd call an average line. So he's feeling pressure in the pocket and not being allowed the luxury to stand around and wait for a guy to be conveniently uncovered in the middle of the field. In his rookie season Cole Beasley had 75 receptions and Witten had 69 - both of those guys were getting themselves uncovered in the middle of the field right where Dak likes to throw. People ragged on Witten for being slow, but he always found a way to get away from the defense so he was an easy target. Nobody at that time had a clue how to defend Beasley because they were more concerned with the outside receivers. Last year they figured out that Dak really doesn't want to throw to those guys anyway, so they focused more on Beasley. Now Witten is gone.

People want to point to Atlanta, but he was horrific against Denver. The Giants have consistently made him look bad. He was terrible for most of one of the games vs Philly and only played well at the very end even as a rookie.

I think that every time we face a good defense we're going to look a lot like we looked on Sunday. Dak can still have good games, because not every defense can take away what he likes to do. But overall I don't think we're ever going to scare a good defense with this QB again. They are going to make him look exactly like the guy in his college scouting report. Every single limitation he has now was written right there. Bah, typing this out has been depressing.

 

[LittleD]

Great Post !

The Dallas Wall and the Dak myth the Jaylon Myth...the Gregory Myth yada yada yada yada i know reality hurts for most but reality is coming real fast for our team....and some here will eat the words of false hopes and dreams they have been selling....

Pre-season was not an aberration but a foretelling of future results. If I can see what plays are coming, you can bet that other Defensive coordinators can.

 

[Hadenough]

Dak and Zeke are showing their limitations without the "steel wall" OL which is now damaged.
Dak is not and never was expected to be a franchise QB and the Dallas FO now has to deal
with those facts as they face another decade of losses and mediocrity. Zeke also needs holes to run
as the defense stacks 8 and 9 in the box as they do not fear Dak to beat them with the long pass.
The plan to find the next Dallas franchise QB should be on the drawing board right now if they had a
real GM but, I fear that they will waste months as they try to cover up this debacle. Dak should be transitioned out
at the end of the year and Zeke in two years as a new coaching staff identifies the next generation of players and
schemes.

Exactly!! Dak is just flat out terrible and people still dont believe! The same problems we saw Dak have his first season against the Giants and Vikings are what exposed him. He hasnt and never will be able to exploit the 8-9 men in the box because he has no accuracy past 10 -15 yards. His accuracy even goes down when he tries to throw it with some zip. Dak is good at floating balls when he has time. As we saw when he cant set his feet he doesnt have the arm strength to throw down the field. And people scoffed when I thought Dallas should of been searching for a QB in the draft and traded up for Josh Rosen.
That being said Garrett needs to be fired asap! I always said Romo was self taught and has created the misconception that Garrett can coach.

 

[Aviano90]

Not sure who the skins and giants backup QBs are but behind Dak is definitely at least the 5th worst qb in the nfc east behind all the starters and foles

We may not have the best of anything at any position on offense anymore, except Martin. Zeke may not even be the best RB in the division.