I changed my mind on Linehan

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He's gonna tarnish the reputation and legacy of these amazing linemen

Our amazing linemen haven't been amazing early in the season the last three years. Lots of talent there. Lots of salary cap dollars. They get pushed around too often by teams with good DLs like they did on Sunday, and the problem wasn't Looney.
 

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Imagine your Linehan and you have DAK as your QB......now before we have another one of our players or Staff get the Dak-Extinction Ax consider how linehan Job is hampered by having such a INEPT QB to run his offense....before you throw stones and stuff...!!!
No OC can make Dak a Good to Great QB so get real folks......What i find so funny in this great video by Akoye is how Dak has to run at the wr or te he's throwing to....franchise my @@@
 

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After watching a video from AKOYE Media, demonstrating just how bad Dak is, and just how open our receivers where, I changed my mind on Linehan.

Folks, we have a problem here. Dak is costing us games. His fear and inability to throw the ball, it is crushing this team. This loss falls squarely on Dak.

Someone here had a thread reviewing every pass by Dak. That was the happy spin on Dak's performance.

I saw Okoye's video. That's the blame Dak spin. Lots of guys he's calling open, I see moving into coverage. And of course you're going to see players open in the All 22 that he doesn't throw to. You're going to see that for every QB. You've got to have realistic expectations for a QB. The QB has a progression to follow. The QB is getting rushed. Players will get open when it's not their turn in the progression, or when the QB is busy avoiding the rush.

It's not that Okoye wasn't right about a lot of his criticisms. But he wasn't right about all of them.

You say all the failure falls on Dak. Aren't there some people on the team whose job it is to prepare and develop Dak? Wouldn't Linehan be high up on that list, particularly since he was likely the guy who pushed for his pet chimp to be QB coach?

And maybe if your QB is not playing well, we hand the ball off a bit more to our former top RB in the league? Maybe you don't put our meh TEs on the field so much. Maybe you give our supposed playmaker, Austin, more than 10 snaps? Maybe you don't keep Schulz active to squeeze 3 snaps out of him, when Rico is a guy a QB having a bad day could throw up a prayer to and have the prayer answered?

We traded for Olawale. Supposed to give us more on offense as a FB. A veteran who can block,run, and receive. 6 snaps.

Swaim got 58 snaps. Really? 6 times more useful than Austin? 10 times more useful than Olawale? Infinitely more useful than Rico?

We get these fancy new toys, and we're served up the same meh game plan, this time thinking that Swaim is Witten (Next man up!), with some better route running.

Nate said after Atlanta: You don't let a young QB get pounded like that. The implication of that is that you should *expect* lingering play issues if you do. And that's what we've seen. Why did Nate know that, but our OC didn't?

6 sacks, with 5 runs. While not Atlanta, maybe that's too much for a young QB too. Feed Zeke. How hard is that?

Dak clearly has his limitations.

So does Linehan, and much of Dak's limitations fall at his feet.

Linehan is supposed to make the most of our aspiring QB. Develop him. Put him in a situation to succeed. I don't see that happening. I see the same make the QB carry the team game plan from Romo's years, but for a young 4th round draft pick who isn't up to it.
 

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Zeke getting only 15 touches is a fail on the coaching staff. This offense should revolve around getting Zeke the ball, whether running or catching. 15 touches to far and away our best player is terrible coaching.

It's not just runs to Zeke. It's runs to Austin. It's runs to Dak. It's runs to Olawale. All those would make the runs to Zeke better, and all leverage our oline in the run game, which is really what our offense should revolve around.
 

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I do agree with you. But it is hard to find as much fault with the plan when the film is there showing you that the plan was working. What didn't work was the QB.

We didn't win. The plan didn't work. Much of that is Dak. But it's also up to the OC to make the choices to use what works. He didn't.
 

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Allegedly that’s all coachable therefore it falls on JG and Linehan. McClay and Jerry found this diamond in the rough and our coaches have already ruined his career because they haven’t coached him up and they destroyed his confidence in Atlanta. Any other coach would have him well on his way to being fit for a gold jacket :rolleyes:

You can roll your eyes, but most of that is true.

It's up to the coaches to make the most of what we have, not put together a game plan that would work if we had other players.
 

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Someone here had a thread reviewing every pass by Dak. That was the happy spin on Dak's performance.

I saw Okoye's video. That's the blame Dak spin. Lots of guys he's calling open, I see moving into coverage. And of course you're going to see players open in the All 22 that he doesn't throw to. You're going to see that for every QB. You've got to have realistic expectations for a QB. The QB has a progression to follow. The QB is getting rushed. Players will get open when it's not their turn in the progression, or when the QB is busy avoiding the rush.

It's not that Okoye wasn't right about a lot of his criticisms. But he wasn't right about all of them.

You say all the failure falls on Dak. Aren't there some people on the team whose job it is to prepare and develop Dak? Wouldn't Linehan be high up on that list, particularly since he was likely the guy who pushed for his pet chimp to be QB coach?

And maybe if your QB is not playing well, we hand the ball off a bit more to our former top RB in the league? Maybe you don't put our meh TEs on the field so much. Maybe you give our supposed playmaker, Austin, more than 10 snaps? Maybe you don't keep Schulz active to squeeze 3 snaps out of him, when Rico is a guy a QB having a bad day could throw up a prayer to and have the prayer answered?

We traded for Olawale. Supposed to give us more on offense as a FB. A veteran who can block,run, and receive. 6 snaps.

Swaim got 58 snaps. Really? 6 times more useful than Austin? 10 times more useful than Olawale? Infinitely more useful than Rico?

We get these fancy new toys, and we're served up the same meh game plan, this time thinking that Swaim is Witten (Next man up!), with some better route running.

Nate said after Atlanta: You don't let a young QB get pounded like that. The implication of that is that you should *expect* lingering play issues if you do. And that's what we've seen. Why did Nate know that, but our OC didn't?

6 sacks, with 5 runs. While not Atlanta, maybe that's too much for a young QB too. Feed Zeke. How hard is that?

Dak clearly has his limitations.

So does Linehan, and much of Dak's limitations fall at his feet.

Linehan is supposed to make the most of our aspiring QB. Develop him. Put him in a situation to succeed. I don't see that happening. I see the same make the QB carry the team game plan from Romo's years, but for a young 4th round draft pick who isn't up to it.

What a great post!
 

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I noticed how Akoye didn't break down the 3rd and 10 screens or 2nd and 17 draws we ran as well. Dak obviously had a terrible game, but you aren't seeing some of our worst coaching decisions in this game because Akoye is selecting the plays where WRs ran downfield and got open.
 

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Imagine your Linehan and you have DAK as your QB......now before we have another one of our players or Staff get the Dak-Extinction Ax consider how linehan Job is hampered by having such a INEPT QB to run his offense....before you throw stones and stuff...!!!

How about Linehan call more run plays when the QB isn't playing well?

Coaching 101. Do what's working. Zeke had 4.6 ypc.
 

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Someone here had a thread reviewing every pass by Dak. That was the happy spin on Dak's performance.

I saw Okoye's video. That's the blame Dak spin. Lots of guys he's calling open, I see moving into coverage. And of course you're going to see players open in the All 22 that he doesn't throw to. You're going to see that for every QB. You've got to have realistic expectations for a QB. The QB has a progression to follow. The QB is getting rushed. Players will get open when it's not their turn in the progression, or when the QB is busy avoiding the rush.

This is the biggest thing to me. I'm on a draft / football scouting group where we go over those Draftbreakdown clips, and everyone likes to say X QB or X RB is trash because they didn't see some open receiver or giant hole on a play. It's just not that simple.

One thing I'd like to emphasize, in addition to what you wrote, is that NFL athletes move FAST. and while it's easy to point out that a guy might have separation or a running at a certain point in time, they're ignoring the fact that defenders will react to the play if you actually try to make it.

For example, someone took this picture mocking Mitch Trubisky for missing this throw in the end zone, and put it on the scouting group saying "this is your top 5 pick?"

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Except he's not missing it. If you look, that DB on the left is in a full sprint and closing on the TE fast By the time Trubisky loads up to throw and the ball gets there, the defender is going to be right on his man. Trubisky might have a shot at a score if he releases instantly and throws a rocket to the right side of his TE before the defender can get there, but his window in this moment is FAR smaller than a picture or still-frame would have you think.

I get that same feeling watching these Dak breakdown clips. Pause the tape, bring out the highlight-cursor: "this guy's open 40 yards downfield, Dak needs to pull the trigger!" Yeah, wait till you see how much ground an NFL free safety can cover on a 40 yard throw. Dak did have a terrible game, but All-22 tape needs to be taken in context as well.
 
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You care more about being right than being a fan (see Anthony Hitchens). Your credibility is trash.



Linehan does have a tendency to get away from the run. Zeke should never have 15 carries in a game that's not decided until the end and he was healthy throughout. Too much empty backfield. He gets too cute and needs to do a better job at recognizing what he has to work with. Play to our strength. Not rely on our weakness. We're not New Orleans or Green Bay. We can't sling the ball all over the field. Okay, you stopped our run for 2 quarters but can you stop it for 4? The game was close enough to stay committed to it.

But most of the criticism of him really is due to the QB who makes him look bad. It's like why all our receivers suck the last couple of years. The QB, first and foremost. We lack talent at WR but this QB downgrades the group as well.

It seems people are finally coming to grips with it. Consider yourselves sucked.

I'll be mailing you all my pinky ring. Kiss it and mail it back.
 

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Linehan sucks, Dak sucks, wideouts suck, offense sucks, Garrett sucks, JJ sucks, they suck, you suck, we suck.

That should about cover it.
C'mon now...….Dez sucks. It's his fault. Right?
 

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After watching a video from AKOYE Media, demonstrating just how bad Dak is, and just how open our receivers where, I changed my mind on Linehan.

Folks, we have a problem here. Dak is costing us games. His fear and inability to throw the ball, it is crushing this team. This loss falls squarely on Dak.

Dak routinely ONLY looks at one half of the field. Guys are running wide open and Dak isn't even looking. It takes him too long to process this info for him to pull the trigger. Often times he creates a sack when in fact he had a receiver wide open.

Not sure how Dak recovers from this. He simply is not throwing to guys who are open for 10-20 yards. He literally had 2 EASY TD's sitting there that he muffed. One was a 60+ yarder to Jarwin the other a 50+ yarder to TWill. Dang.

Watch this expose on Dak. Be prepared to be sick.


Good info Keith!! There is a following that is blaming everyone along with Dak. But this really puts things in perspective! Tyron Smith looks like he is in survival mode and isnt even looking for contact!
 

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Zeke getting only 15 touches is a fail on the coaching staff. This offense should revolve around getting Zeke the ball, whether running or catching. 15 touches to far and away our best player is terrible coaching.

Tough to run with 8-9 men in the box, is on the QB to take advantage of those opportunities.
 
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No doubt. Having access to the coaches film is much more telling than what we see on TV.
Man you can say that again! That film is just screaming truth. That's an eye opener Keith!
We have people hating on our receivers and even on Sanjay Lal but that film shows plenty of open receivers and opportunities!
Lal is doing his job and so are the receivers! Dak Is the problem, NOT SanJay Lal and our receivers.

Oh BTW, where's our great and wise rookie QB coach Kellen Moore? I knew that kid was a bad mistake.
 
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Man you can say that again! That film is just screaming truth.
We have people hating on our receivers and even on Sanjay Lal but that film shows plenty of open receivers!
Lal is doing his job and so are the receivers! Dak Is the problem, NOT SanJay Lal and our receivers.

Oh BTW, where's our great and wise rookie QB coach Kellen Moore? I knew that kid was a bad mistake.
Amen!
 

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After watching a video from AKOYE Media, demonstrating just how bad Dak is, and just how open our receivers where, I changed my mind on Linehan.

Folks, we have a problem here. Dak is costing us games. His fear and inability to throw the ball, it is crushing this team. This loss falls squarely on Dak.

Dak routinely ONLY looks at one half of the field. Guys are running wide open and Dak isn't even looking. It takes him too long to process this info for him to pull the trigger. Often times he creates a sack when in fact he had a receiver wide open.

Not sure how Dak recovers from this. He simply is not throwing to guys who are open for 10-20 yards. He literally had 2 EASY TD's sitting there that he muffed. One was a 60+ yarder to Jarwin the other a 50+ yarder to TWill. Dang.

Watch this expose on Dak. Be prepared to be sick.



Ok, I'll buy that. It's one thing to say we have a problem but another to find a solution. What's your solution Keith? Rush? White? Give Dak a few games to improve? Sit him now? See what we have after the season and draft a QB high in 2019? Clearly you believe Dak can't do it. Clearly there are no QB's sitting on the couch that will come in and change things instantly. Give me a solution not the "Dak lament". BTW, an OC is easier to replace than a starting QB. Let's throw White Rush out there and see how we do.
 

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Feed Zeke. How hard is that?
You cant keep running into a brick wall when your not making progress. Every keeps saying we didnt hand the ball off to Zeke enough. This team couldnt because when they did the team went 3 plays and punted. The defense was fighting their tails off and they decided to go into pass mode which would of opened up the run game had Dak been able complete the passes. Teams are basically saying were gonna stuff zeke and MAKE you throw!
 
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