Dak wasn't that good last night **merged**

[Ddisco22]

Wrong. He played well, but then you have to actually watch the game instead of just looking at the stats and backing out the longest play.

Thank for that!

 

[Ddisco22]

the score was 13-3 in the 4th..... 13 points.... and we had a TD drive which he looked good...the defense played fantastic...when you hold the opponent to 3 points with 6 minutes to go....you have done your job.....the defense had 6 sacks and gave the offense good team position...giants were true to their word...loading the box and daring Dak to beat them....he did...with 6 yard throws...again, he did have one 64 yard TD pass... but the rest of the time it was very very average

it was enough for the win, Dak did his part. he didn't have to throw for 3 hundred yards to get it

 

[Billyd]

In 2016, he was not playing a conventional style of play for a QB. This style of play is simply not sustainable in the NFL. Yes, he's a big kid, but running RPOs all the time is a recipe to getting hurt. It's also not consistent, as the Panthers have found out with Cam Newton. I honestly think that Garrett and Linehan were trying to introduce Dak to pocket concepts in week one and he simply wet the bed.

If Dak can eventually grasp being more of a pocket passer like Russell Wilson has been developing into, then sign me up. If he's going to be a po
or man's Cam, I don't want any part of it long term.

WILSON about a bad example..I hear you but he Not really a great example other than of a defense leading a team to a sb..Wilson did more harm than good then..I realize he more of a pocket now..I think Dak can be better but they must solidify the oline.

Daks mobility when used with solid protection is capable..And Yes i dont want him running more, just when it provides a catalyst in co junction with a offensive need. I E 4rth yesterday.

Dak is already familar with RPO....Lol.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

it was enough for the win, Dak did his part. he didn't have to throw for 3 hundred yards to get it

based on the last two games (last 7 really). will he be able to throw for 300? consistently

 

[Cap12]

Absolutely some rust and week 1 there were no "charged" drops.
This week there were at least 3 drops imho, though we shall see what is ruled official drop or not tomorrow when they update.

One specific one was the Gallup play. I have been overly flowery of Gallup's deep ball play but in this case he didn't give himself any room on the sideline instead focusing on his slight let up then burst move that is sweet but all vertical. Ball hit him in the hands and it would have been a beautiful play to get feet in bounds but you gotta catch that for sure.

At end of the day Dak took care of the ball and threw it away plenty but took 0 sacks, had 0 turnovers and gave NYG zero easy points.

Momentum and the defender would have likley carried/pushed him out of bounds. That play would not have been considered a drop. Beasley had a drop when Webb interfered with him. Other than that I did not remember any others.

 

[jterrell]

In 2016, he was not playing a conventional style of play for a QB. This style of play is simply not sustainable in the NFL. Yes, he's a big kid, but running RPOs all the time is a recipe to getting hurt. It's also not consistent, as the Panthers have found out with Cam Newton. I honestly think that Garrett and Linehan were trying to introduce Dak to pocket concepts in week one and he simply wet the bed.

If Dak can eventually grasp being more of a pocket passer like Russell Wilson has been developing into, then sign me up. If he's going to be a poor man's Cam, I don't want any part of it long term.

Cam has been to the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 seasons.
So has Aaron Rodgers.

Backing up passing it 50 times a game is as or more dangerous than running forward expecting contact.

Dak is throwing the ball away as opposed to taking sacks which is a key to his longevity. Sitting in the pocket taking shots from 300 pound dudes while your body is open to pass is far more deadly than getting passed the first line of defense and taking a hit on the second level with the ball tucked.

 

[Ddisco22]

based on the last two games (last 7 really). will he be able to throw for 300? consistently

Whatever it takes to Win, don't have to be like the Bucks nor the Saints when you can run the ball.

 

[DasSchnitzel]

First, that's a hardly a dumpoff. Looked like it could have been 10 to 15+ with wide open YAC.

Second, the open guy and the deep guy are practically the same line of sight. So if he couldn't see the open guy, how could he see the deep guy well enough for an accurate throw?

Idk, I feel like he missed one there, but it all worked out in the end. Felt like progress from week 1 for sure, I think the rust is shaking off.

 

[Billyd]

it was enough for the win, Dak did his part. he didn't have to throw for 3 hundred yards to get it

Yes But LINEHAN was guilty in trying to push too hard against the Giants in 2016.. Some last year as well..I can show where in 2016..Dak was struggling i wins in 2016..Not many talked about it.

 

[Fire407]

I think Dak could have put up bigger numbers if the play calling had been more aggressive. I wish they would dial up more of the deep passes, especially after it worked so well. But Linehan (or Garrett) must have thought we reached our quota after the first touchdown.

 

[HellCrowe]

Cam has been to the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 seasons.
So has Aaron Rodgers.

Backing up passing it 50 times a game is as or more dangerous than running forward expecting contact.

Dak is throwing the ball away as opposed to taking sacks which is a key to his longevity. Sitting in the pocket taking shots from 300 pound dudes while your body is open to pass is far more deadly than getting passed the first line of defense and taking a hit on the second level with the ball tucked.

Eli would beg to differ lol

 

[Billyd]

First, that's a hardly a dumpoff. Looked like it could have been 10 to 15+ with wide open YAC.

Second, the open guy and the deep guy are practically the same line of sight. So if he couldn't see the open guy, how could he see the deep guy well enough for an accurate throw?

Idk, I feel like he missed one there, but it all worked out in the end. Felt like progress from week 1 for sure, I think the rust is shaking off.

Yeah some peeps are being very tight on a fluid situation..If you have not spent time watching from better angles, its easy to presume a qb being blind or succumbing to pressure..We are not throwing the ball, nor can we always judge the vid..

 

[jterrell]

based on the last two games (last 7 really). will he be able to throw for 300? consistently

This is common sense man.... no, he isn't going to average 300 yards throwing it 19 times or even 25 times a game, lol.
He is performing within the offense.
He is avoiding turnovers and riding a very good defense.

The key is the running game and the occasional deep shots which provide balance and loosen things up for Zeke.

Last year Drew Brees average 35 pass attempts per game.
That's the kind of numbers a regular 300 yard passer will have.

DAL has no real money invested at WR or TE and no real high picks.
The OFFENSE isn't based upon 300 yard passing days.

 

[Billyd]

Eli would beg to differ lol

AND how did that work out?

 

[buybuydandavis]

But this team was bult around the OL and Zeke.
Dak is a beautiful compliment to them in that he can also pound you with the run.

You don't need 20 rushes a game but 8-10? Sure.
And every one of those read options means 1 less pass.

Dak and Zeke complement each other, and the oline. They should design runs for Dak. He isn't a delicate daisy. He's shorter and heavier than Rod Smith, and has more proven durability with run yardage in college and the NFL.

As you say, Dak is a beautiful complement to Zeke. And the oline. People need to start tallying what Dak contributes to the run game when they evaluate him.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I saw at least 4 other shots downfield im not sure what game you were watching

One of which could potentially have been a TD if Gallup doesn't drop it. The Giants DB that was trailing him, Webb (former Cowboy) I think it was, would've had a difficult time catching up to him if he holds on to it.

 

[HellCrowe]

AND how did that work out?

Is this a trick question? Idk about you man

 

[Denim Chicken]

Second, the open guy and the deep guy are practically the same line of sight.

Presume this is the play you're thinking about. Look at it in real time & watch Dak's eyes for the reads.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Sorry, you are dead wrong. He was accurate last night and made some great throws. Multiple times he had pressure in his face as soon as the ball was snapped. Also had good throws that the WRs did not make plays on. Not to mention the penalties.

Those were brilliant throws.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I think Dak could have put up bigger numbers if the play calling had been more aggressive. I wish they would dial up more of the deep passes, especially after it worked so well. But Linehan (or Garrett) must have thought we reached our quota after the first touchdown.

I agree with this.

I think they went conservative when they figured the NYG offense was not going to do much on their own and from that point on (2nd quarter) when went conservative in order to minimize the chance of turnovers.