I am sick of one side officiating

[Kaiser]

Where is it? You put out a bat signal for data you say exists but I haven't seen it.

Its on this site and you haven't seen it because you haven't looked. Because it would prove you wrong and cut down on the time could spend on these buffoonish threads.

 

[MarcusRock]

Exactly.

Extraordinary proof is required for extraordinary claims.

I remember one flustered poster once told me "prove there isn't a conspiracy!!!"

LOL. With this play, these guys are all doing exactly as I said they would even after I posted that they would do these things. Maybe someone will finally address the hold instead of just Pettigrew's push-off.

 

[Kaiser]

... and the jersey pull by Hitchens?

The Hitchens hold and the Pettigrew facemask are seperate issues from your point about Hitchens committing PI.

But you knew that already.

 

[InTheZone]

Wait, did this official do any Cowboys games?

Week 1: Chicago Bears at Green Bay Packers
Week 2: Oakland Raiders at Denver Broncos
Week 3: San Francisco 49ers at Kansas City Chiefs
Week 5: Washington Commanders at New Orleans Saints
Week 6: Los Angeles Chargers at Cleveland Browns

Gee, he didn't. Guess he was just a poor official and not actually on John Mara's payroll to screw the Cowboys incessantly when he got the chance.

and no one is saying other teams don't get bad calls, seriously where do you people come from? I think all the proof was there when no team for half a season got a holding call when wrapping arms around our defensive lines necks last year with the whole Zeke situation.

 

[Kaiser]

Extraordinary proof is required for extraordinary claims."

The threads and the data on holding calls were here for months, I know you read them.

I remember you arguing that all conspiracy cases have a smoking gun and I gave you the Stephen A. Cohen example to prove they didn't. Maybe the statistical abberation of holding calls was just a near-impossible cooincidence that aligned with Jerry taking millions of dollars away from Goodell. Its possible, but its beyond silly to deny the timing.

 

[aria]

No, I for one, don't lament good officiating. At least they eventually got the call right. Even if it hurts Dallas, I appreciate good officiating. Obscure and uneven rule enforcement at critical moments in the game are far too frequent, especially against Dallas.

I appreciate good officiating as well but the whole Dallas thing is overblown. I’ve already posted games this year in which we received less penalties than the other team and the few other games we had ~2 more penalties than the other teams. Hardly what I’d call “far too frequent, especially against Dallas”.

 

[MarcusRock]

I'm not keeping track of multiple posts like I'm supposed to go back and read possibly every argument. The hold you mentioned I asked about because you provided a GIF, with no hold. You have some other armchair ref directing me to posts I missed so I'm linking this video because there was contact by both Hitchens and Pettigrew within a few yards, that usually never gets called on either party(Patrick Peterson has made a career from holding within 5 yards). Let's show the whole play instead of snapshotting a single instance that says, "See, don't you see!".

Again, there's no changing your opinion, it is what it is.

What? Lol. I posted the photo of the hold before I posted the GIF. So you can hold a guy to keep up as he gets past you as long as it's within 5 yards? Don't talk about "usually never't gets called" when it benefits the Cowboys only because if the roles were reversed, that no call would have been proof of the CONSPIRACY! Should that have been called a hold or not? I remember Mike Pereira saying it should have been on the day of the game.

 

[Melonfeud]

Washington's first TD should have been called back for a clip and I saw numerous holding penalties on the Crapskin's offensive line that were completely ignored.......................And how about that offsides call on Tank when the right tackle moved ?

But that final penalty was completely off-the-wall ; I've seen numerous long-snappers play with the ball prior to snapping it and Washington went across the line of scrimmage almost 3 full seconds after LP put both hands on the ball.................Unbelievable..................

+1 point awarded for appreciation in coining the aptly appropriate title of Crapskins label unto our much hated& deeply despised foes.




*I'm still in great mirth& of humorous nature after seeing that

 

[MarcusRock]

Its on this site and you haven't seen it because you haven't looked. Because it would prove you wrong and cut down on the time could spend on these buffoonish threads.

If there was a search feature that would help but I was hoping your bat signal would help to bring the data here. Is there a media article that states the same thing? I do remember an article talking about lack of holds but it gave zero data talking about how rare it was. Surely, if it was proven to be extremely rare at a time when Jones was "opposing" Goodell that would have made for a juicy story that would have no doubt been posted here for theorists to get excited about. Does that exist? This is why I said "independent source" because some guy saying they ran the numbers just ain't enough. Do you remember what format the data was in or if a link accompanied it?

The Hitchens hold and the Pettigrew facemask are seperate issues from your point about Hitchens committing PI.

But you knew that already.

Exactly what the other guy who didn't want to address the hold said. Lol. I'm no Nostradamus but man are people very predictable on this one.

 

[aria]

Ranking of avg penalties per game for Dallas (1st being the least amount of penalties). The difference between 1st and middle of the pack most years was an avg of slightly more than 1 penalty per game.

2014- 13th
2015- 22nd
2016- 15th
2017- 11th
2018- 8th

So as you can see, more than half the league has more of a legitimate gripe about being screwed over by officiating but the crying conspiracy theorists continue to make excuses and refuse to acknowledge that other teams get plenty of bad calls as well.

 

[MarcusRock]

and no one is saying other teams don't get bad calls, seriously where do you people come from? I think all the proof was there when no team for half a season got a holding call when wrapping arms around our defensive lines necks last year with the whole Zeke situation.

See my post above this one. Where's the numbers?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

The threads and the data on holding calls were here for months, I know you read them.

I remember you arguing that all conspiracy cases have a smoking gun and I gave you the Stephen A. Cohen example to prove they didn't. Maybe the statistical abberation of holding calls was just a near-impossible cooincidence that aligned with Jerry taking millions of dollars away from Goodell. Its possible, but its beyond silly to deny the timing.

Stephen A. Cohen?

Is that an auto-correct because I literally have no idea of who that's supposed to be?

 

[InTheZone]

What? Lol. I posted the photo of the hold before I posted the GIF. So you can hold a guy to keep up as he gets past you as long as it's within 5 yards? Don't talk about "usually never't gets called" when it benefits the Cowboys only because if the roles were reversed, that no call would have been proof of the CONSPIRACY! Should that have been called a hold or not? I remember Mike Pereira saying it should have been on the day of the game.

the grabbing of the jersey when both were contacting each other 2 yards off the line did not slow his movement. If anyone's crying over a hold they're looking at the end of the play after offensive PI and hands to the face was committed.

And you couldn't contain yourself again I see, ready to call out conspiracy theories where no one suggested otherwise. Do you see people complaining about the refs missing the hold on Gallup on Daks strip sack/fumble/td? No, ok then...but we have legitimate holds on the skins offensive line, but surely you think we're all just seeing holds because we want to see them...

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

the grabbing of the jersey when both were contacting each other 2 yards off the line did not slow his movement. If anyone's crying over a hold they're looking at the end of the play after offensive PI and hands to the face was committed.

And you couldn't contain yourself again I see, ready to call out conspiracy theories where no one suggested otherwise. Do you see people complaining about the refs missing the hold on Gallup on Daks strip sack/fumble/td? No, ok then...but we have legitimate holds on the skins offensive line, but surely you think we're all just seeing holds because we want to see them...

BS.

The hold (grabbing of Pettigrew's jersey as he ran by) was not incidental contact off the line. It was meant to slow down his progress as he ran by.

So what's your beef then?

You aren't merely complaining that refs miss calls.

You're insinuating something nefarious. So spare the false characterization lament.

 

[InTheZone]

Ranking of avg penalties per game for Dallas (1st being the least amount of penalties). The difference between 1st and middle of the pack most years was an avg of slightly more than 1 penalty per game.

2014- 13th
2015- 22nd
2016- 15th
2017- 11th
2018- 8th

So as you can see, more than half the league has more of a legitimate gripe about being screwed over by officiating but the crying conspiracy theorists continue to make excuses and refuse to acknowledge that other teams get plenty of bad calls as well.

I think it has more to do with the timing of rarely called penalties and the fact that for several years prior we were getting the worst of it, hey more proof Romo had to overcome more bs in his days...it does feel like we're getting as many calls as before but I think it was the scar the NFL has left behind for what they did to us before coupled with the fact the NFL proved they can manipulate games based on the no calls for half the season last year.

2006 - 21st
2007 -28th
2008 - Last
2009 - 29th
2010 -27th
2011 - 28th
2012 - 30th
2013 - 21st

Jason Garret wants to blame penalties now for our offense sucking, can't imagine Dak having to overcome being bottom 10 in penalties for every year of his career. We're 8th now and you'd think we're last LOL

 

[InTheZone]

BS.

The hold (grabbing of Pettigrew's jersey as he ran by) was not incidental contact off the line. It was meant to slow down his progress as he ran by.

So what's your beef then?

You aren't merely complaining that refs miss calls.

You're insinuating something nefarious. So spare the false characterization lament.

I can't discuss things if you're going to keep throwing words in my mouth. I never said anything about incidental. I said there was contact by both players early on and the hold DID NOT slow his movement..aka refs not *****ing about it like some are. I see players consistently tug and get away with it, but it's hardly called. For years I've complained about DBs mugging our receivers, flag comes out once a game...

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I can't discuss things if you're going to keep throwing words in my mouth. I never said anything about incidental. I said there was contact by both players early on and the hold DID NOT slow his movement..aka refs not *****ing about it like some are. I see players consistently tug and get away with it, but it's hardly called. For years I've complained about DBs mugging our receivers, flag comes out once a game...

Looool, notice the rationalization of missed calls when it doesn't fit your narrative..."meh, the refs didn't think much of it so they didn't call it."

So when the refs miss a call that could have been better the Cowboys why aren't you processing it as "they didn't think it was worth throwing a flag over?"

This is freakin' comedy.

MarcusRock posted a still shot on page 8 that shows Hitchen's arm extended out with a handful of Pettigrew's jersey as he's running past Hitch. Or do you think Hitch was running along lifting Pettigrew's jersey like a bridesmaid lifts the train of the bride's wedding dress?

 

[Melonfeud]

If there was a search feature that would help but I was hoping your bat signal would help to bring the data here. Is there a media article that states the same thing? I do remember an article talking about lack of holds but it gave zero data talking about how rare it was. Surely, if it was proven to be extremely rare at a time when Jones was "opposing" Goodell that would have made for a juicy story that would have no doubt been posted here for theorists to get excited about. Does that exist? This is why I said "independent source" because some guy saying they ran the numbers just ain't enough. Do you remember what format the data was in or if a link accompanied it?



Exactly what the other guy who didn't want to address the hold said. Lol. I'm no Nostradamus but man are people very predictable on this one.

You'd have to just about go back in time one year in the posting history of the CZ to find the lengthy span of NON-FLAGGED offensive holding penalties being inflicted on our defensive rushmen,it was starting to get some real twittersphere face time,so a couple were called a week or two later,thusly making it a non-issue.

 

[aria]

I think it has more to do with the timing of rarely called penalties and the fact that for several years prior we were getting the worst of it, hey more proof Romo had to overcome more bs in his days...it does feel like we're getting as many calls as before but I think it was the scar the NFL has left behind for what they did to us before coupled with the fact the NFL proved they can manipulate games based on the no calls for half the season last year.

2006 - 21st
2007 -28th
2008 - Last
2009 - 29th
2010 -27th
2011 - 28th
2012 - 30th
2013 - 21st

Jason Garret wants to blame penalties now for our offense sucking, can't imagine Dak having to overcome being bottom 10 in penalties for every year of his career. We're 8th now and you'd think we're last LOL

Check out Seattle, I glanced at their stats and stopped around 2013 but they have been the worst in the league a few times and bottom ten every other time. Think they have something to complain about?

So do you truly believe that certain officials are being told and/or paid by Goodell to cost us games?

 

[InTheZone]

Looool, notice the rationalization of missed calls when it doesn't fit your narrative..."meh, the refs didn't think much of it so they didn't call it."

So when the refs miss a call that could have been better the Cowboys why aren't you processing it as "they didn't think it was worth throwing a flag over?"

This is freakin' comedy.

MarcusRock posted a still shot on page 8 that shows Hitchen's arm extended out with a handful of Pettigrew's jersey as he's running past Hitch. Or do you think Hitch was running along lifting Pettigrew's jersey like a bridesmaid lifts the train of the bride's wedding dress?

AND I POSTED A VIDEO SHOWING FROM THE START, how convenient you missed it...

both players had initiated contact and the refs let it go. I'm not even sure what you're arguing anymore. If you haven't noticed I'm arguing convenient, once in a lifetime penalties that seemingly get called against us in critical times and I've said for years we've been getting abused by officials, along with proof from last season.