I am sick of one side officiating

[MarcusRock]

Got to say, I think that was PI.

Just being honest.

Of course it was. Hold + PI and Pettigrew's push off should have been offsetting and a replay of the down. But the story is "we wuz robbed" because Pettigrew didn't get called for the push off. LOL.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Duh. Congratulations on being able to glean selective evidence from a video. But are you going to address the hold Hitchens committed or the shove of Pettigrew's shoulder before the ball arrived? Careful, it might not agree with your biased agenda.

Don't expect a response back. He vacated the thread; that's his usual MO.

 

[nathanlt]

Got to say, I think that was PI.

Just being honest.

Ok. Do you think it was completely one-sided PI???

 

[Seven]

The conspiracy theorist's kryptonite is this simple question:

If the refs/league are conspiring to do-in the Cowboys, then why are you still watching?

It's effectively no different than a pro wrestling fan complaining the outcome of the matches are rigged.

Pro.....(?) Wrestling and football? WOW!

Apples and dirt clod comparison... seriously.

 

[DogFace]

The conspiracy theorist's kryptonite is this simple question:

If the refs/league are conspiring to do-in the Cowboys, then why are you still watching?

It's effectively no different than a pro wrestling fan complaining the outcome of the matches are rigged.

I believe there’s a bias. Maybe its a subconscious thing. You and others like to use the word conspiracy because of the connotations that go along with the word. I don’t believe the nfl has a group of people working together to screw the Cowboys. I believe some refs may subconsciously or possibly conciously feel some of the “hate” that many fans and members of the media feel about America’s Team and that media given title is part of what bothers them. Hell, there’s plenty of self hating fans here. I’d like to ask them why they still watch.


Plenty of people like the Cowboys. Plenty of people hate the Cowboys. Refs are people. Maybe we’ll get some obscure play ruled in our favor when it really counts by one who likes us. That would be refreshing.

The no holds for 10 or so games last year despite video evidence of inarguably clear holds(literal tackles from behind and pulling shirts out a foot from a player’s body) right in front of the refs, the illegal substitution penalty vs the packers followed later in the game on then game winning play with David Irving getting tackle held, and this illegal procedure are game changing calls that alter one team’s chance of winning and they are all very rare, to say the least, calls/no calls.

 

[DogFace]

Of course it was. Hold + PI and Pettigrew's push off should have been offsetting and a replay of the down. But the story is "we wuz robbed" because Pettigrew didn't get called for the push off. LOL.

Who complained there should’ve been a pushoff called? Who said we were robbed? The play was ruled in our favor so how’s it possible we wuz robbed or that anyone could think that? (Killz meez you think that’s some clever phrase)

We were explaining that Hichens pushing his arm was because he was grabbing his facemask or as you see it pushing off using his facemask.

The hold luckily wasn’t called nor part of the catch attempt.

 

[aria]

On the specific Hitchens call, the pass interference never had legitimacy. The Lions reciever had a grip on Hitchens face mask. Hitchens had his arms out, showing dramatically that he was not interfering. It was ridiculous to call the situation a one sided penalty on Hitchens. I knew it from the first moment!

so.... "Don't even try to argue that pass interference was legitimate"

If that happened to us the tears would still be flowing.

 

[aria]

No one's talking about just one call, it's obvious calls you don't even have to look for that are missed against the opposition. And if you really want to bring up the Lions game Pettigrew was holding Hitchens prior to his run in. And if Pettigrew stopped for the badly underthrown ball it's PI, but he kept running. Go watch the replay, have fun.

No ones talking about just one call? Then why does the Dez non catch come up several times a week?
Again, goback and watch the Detroit game this year, we were holding several times yet we only had 2 penalties compared to their 8. Those were multiple “obvious” calls.

 

[aria]

don't get your panties in a knot, the NFL got us back the next week with the Dez catch, and then got us again in 2016 with the Brice Butler penalty that hadn't been called in 35 years

I wouldn’t call it “got us back” but your comment is true in the sense that it goes both ways. Every team in this league has legitimate gripes about how they got screwed by the officials. It’s cost some teams the playoffs yet we have conspiracy fans that still like to think we are being personally targeted by the officals. It’s ridiculous.

What a grand scheme! I bet Goodell is on a conference call right now with all of the officials to make sure they do whatever they can to make us lose. They’re probably instructed to even screw over any team playing the Commanders and Philthy just so we don’t have a shot at winning the division. I’ve heard every official has a “no talk” clause in their contract just in case any of them ever decide to inform the world that they are all supposed to hurt the Cowboys with penalties.

It’s such a genius plan that no one sees it except Cowboys fans! I’m sure Roger would love nothing more than to see the most popular team in the league, and his biggest money maker and ratings team, miss the playoffs just so he can laugh at Jerry for twenty more years.

 

[MarcusRock]

Don't expect a response back. He vacated the thread; that's his usual MO.

This is why I love posting video and other evidence. I just want to see what happens. The usual response is to just slowly slink away but the real fun is when people continue to deny what they just saw or pick different pieces out of it to discuss instead of the point the video just proved to save face on their position (like you see here). It's a great exercise of stubborness and pride and how emotion won't let people accept reality. I think back to that thread when the NFL announced they were going to alter the catch rule, and on the basis of a single headline from the media (whom they all say to not trust), people swore up and down that the NFL was now admitting they got the Dez call wrong back in 2014 instead of simply altering the rule in 2018. That was a whopper of emotion overload and revealed just how deep the delusion is around something that doesn't go one's way. It was quite entertaining though.

 

[MarcusRock]

Who complained there should’ve been a pushoff called? Who said we were robbed? The play was ruled in our favor so how’s it possible we wuz robbed or that anyone could think that? (Killz meez you think that’s some clever phrase)

We were explaining that Hichens pushing his arm was because he was grabbing his facemask or as you see it pushing off using his facemask.

The hold luckily wasn’t called nor part of the catch attempt.

You're not following. That play was presented as evidence that bad calls do go our way instead of only against us and the reflex response is, "but, but Pettigrew grabbed his facemask." So what? Hitchens committed pass interference AND holding on the play but the initial call was pass interference that got picked up. I can see if people at least admit the PI and/or hold and say it should have been offsetting like I have but no one's done that here in their need to cling to a one-sided CONSPIRACY! that seeks to screw the Cowboys in every game they lose. Admitting Hitchens' multiple fouls actually proves that officials miss things all over the place but because that's the anti-CONSPIRACY! position, the theorists can't go there and only cling to the part the officials missed that feeds their claim. We get it. And it's not reality.

 

[kskboys]

This is why I love posting video and other evidence. I just want to see what happens. The usual response is to just slowly slink away but the real fun is when people continue to deny what they just saw or pick different pieces out of it to discuss instead of the point the video just proved to save face on their position (like you see here). It's a great exercise of stubborness and pride and how emotion won't let people accept reality. I think back to that thread when the NFL announced they were going to alter the catch rule, and on the basis of a single headline from the media (whom they all say to not trust), people swore up and down that the NFL was now admitting they got the Dez call wrong back in 2014 instead of simply altering the rule in 2018. That was a whopper of emotion overload and revealed just how deep the delusion is around something that doesn't go one's way. It was quite entertaining though.

And it's really easy to simply look at a replay and say: "Oooopsily, you're right, looks like I got that one wrong!!!!"

 

[CWR]

Exactly, it is not penalty for penalty. Within the NFL, it's all about the timing of the penalty. At key points in the game. You can even call 2-1 ratio of penalties over the Cowboys and still have the ones that came at crucial times matter fifteen times more. Cowboys are always hit with those game changing timed penalties.

And they usually seem to be late, after the play is over. I dont trust a td anymore, until the extra point has been kicked.

 

[InTheZone]

No ones talking about just one call? Then why does the Dez non catch come up several times a week?
Again, goback and watch the Detroit game this year, we were holding several times yet we only had 2 penalties compared to their 8. Those were multiple “obvious” calls.

I'll take your word on the holding. When we're on offense I'm usually watching Dak the receivers and defense presnap, never the OL. When we're on defense I usually watch the defensive line and that allows me to see line holding/ineffective rushing by everyone not named Lawrence.

 

[Kaiser]

This is why I love posting video and other evidence. I just want to see what happens. The usual response is to just slowly slink away .

So you are reviewing the holding call data from last season, huh?

 

[Kaiser]

the theorists can't go there and only cling to the part the officials missed that feeds their claim. We get it. And it's not reality.

Reality is that the pass hit Hitchens in the back and the TE was moving into him, not vice versa. Saying you are wrong to call it PI isn't a conspiracy.

 

[Bobhaze]

We can all agree that most of the penalties called on us are legit.

However, our opponents are not being reffed with the same scrutiny as we are. Our D cannot buy an offensive holding call, as well as an illegal pick call.

Then, the refs seem to find the most gut wrenching times to call weak or nonexistent penalties on us.

I just want equality in the calls.

Btw, the LPL call was pure trash. He did what he has done his whole career and what other LS do. The game should have gone to OT.

I apologize for not being able to read the whole thread. And I agree with you that the “snap infraction” call was BS. But...3 points I want to make-

1. There are only 6 other teams in the NFL with less penalties called against them. We are one of the least penalized teams in the league.

2. Through seven games, we have 47 penalties, our opponents 40. That’s averaging about one more penalty a game than our opponents. It may feel unfair, but compared to a team like Cle, who has over 20 more penalties called against it than opponents, we are not that penalized.

3. Despite the snap call that was bogus, how about this team make some plays earlier in the game than the last 4 minutes? Sure that bad call hurt, but what hurts more is the team’s inability to make their own luck by moving the football.

 

[InTheZone]

Maybe this site works better:

Thanks. I see Pettigrew putting his hand on Hitchens facemask trying to separate(holding/offensive PI) and I see the poorly thrown ball hit Hitchens in the back. Hitchens did NOT run through the TE, but had the TE stopped he would've ran through him for PI.

If anything the missed penalty by the TE caused Hitchens to almost commit PI for trying to recover. I'm done talking about this because you won't see it another way and will be to quick to scream conspiracy theorists as you always do. The refs made the right call, regardless of what was initially called before being corrected.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Pro.....(?) Wrestling and football? WOW!

Apples and dirt clod comparison... seriously.

So answer the question then. If you think it's rigged then why are you watching?

Wait...

You do know pro wrestling is fake, right?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Thanks. I see Pettigrew putting his hand on Hitchens facemask trying to separate(holding/offensive PI) and I see the poorly thrown ball hit Hitchens in the back. Hitchens did NOT run through the TE, but had the TE stopped he would've ran through him for PI.

If anything the missed penalty by the TE caused Hitchens to almost commit PI for trying to recover. I'm done talking about this because you won't see it another way and will be to quick to scream conspiracy theorists as you always do. The refs made the right call, regardless of what was initially called before being corrected.

Right, and you don't see Hitchen's grabbing Pettigrew's jersey, holding him before the rest of the sequence you described, right?