Twitter: The Manster, Randy White, calls out all Garrett critics

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I guess it depends on the expectations you have with Jerry in this most dysfunctional situation.

I have zero expectations for Jerry.

Doesn't mean I can call Garrett a mediocre HC that should be crap canned in the offseason if they miss the playoffs again.

That point has ZERO to do with why Jerry keeps him employed.
 

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I think I’m gonna skip this thread because people are going to talk ish about Randy White for not being in their echo chamber, and I don’t think I’ll be able to restrain myself when they do.
 

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I have zero expectations for Jerry.

Doesn't mean I can call Garrett a mediocre HC that should be crap canned in the offseason if they miss the playoffs again.

That point has ZERO to do with why Jerry keeps him employed.
That’s fine. You can call it out until the cows come home if it makes you feel better.

This dysfunctional situation HC’s are not set up for success. I think that’s fairly obvious to most fans.
 

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Randy White is talking like someone auditioning for a job in JJ's puppet media.

So someone that is a HoF player that played for one of the greatest coaches of all time is talking like a puppet? I guess because it doesn't line up with your opinion. Fine, you don't agree with him, that's your prerogative, but it is still only an opinion, not fact. Randy's is the same, an opinion, but he speaks from greater position of authority.
 

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I think I’m gonna skip this thread because people are going to talk ish about Randy White for not being in their echo chamber, and I don’t think I’ll be able to restrain myself when they do.
I’m bored at the moment just sitting here on the toilet which places me in the perfect frame of mind for this discussion. Lol
 

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"They may get beat, but..." :rolleyes:

I love The Manster. One of my favorite players of all time but I will continue to hate the Scarlet Clap...
 

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He picked better coordinators, for one.

Maybe, maybe not. How many of his coordinators went on to be successful head coaches? Dave Wandstadt was maybe the only one and he was not what I would classify as overly successful. Maybe Norv Turner to some degree, but he managed to get himself fired from 2 HC jobs after leaving Dallas.
 

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It's ego. He wasn't satisfied with winning SB's with Jimmy calling the shots and getting the credit. Jerry has consistently made sure to not repeat that "mistake" again. He'd rather be in control and lose than win with someone else in control and getting the credit.
It’s refreshing to see some fans get it. I like to think most do get it and it’s only a very vocal few who don’t.
 

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Define a bad NFL coach? You have to
So someone that is a HoF player that played for one of the greatest coaches of all time is talking like a puppet? I guess because it doesn't line up with your opinion. Fine, you don't agree with him, that's your prerogative, but it is still only an opinion, not fact. Randy's is the same, an opinion, but he speaks from greater position of authority.

So, basically you are saying my opinion is only an opinion. Thanx for clarifying captain obvious.
 

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It's like you don't even read what people write.

You get on this whole "this is what Jerry wants" shtick every time the Garrett discussion comes up and you rarely ever seem to read or comprehend what people are saying.
Because fans want to hold Garrett to some kind of normal responsibility and accountability as HC which nothing is further from reality here with Jerry. It’s absolutely pertinent to the measurement of Garrett.

Who knows what kind of HC Garrett could be in a normal situation.

And honestly I believe overall he’s propped up this franchise pretty well considering the distractions.

And FYI it’s called redirecting the discussion to insert your own narrative.
 
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Define a bad NFL coach? You have to


So, basically you are saying my opinion is only an opinion. Thanx for clarifying captain obvious.

Your welcome. To me, the issue isn't that it's an opinion, or that his is an opinion. We all know they are. But it's the personal, catty labeling of someone that has a differing opinion.
 

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While you claim to. But I guess the double standard eludes you?



The only person I see taking this as a one way street here is you sir.

Just flush some more attitude...


What if Dallas does not just advance to the rear, as is what you advocate?

What made the dynasty Cowboys' period or the Greatest Show on Turf excel?

Don't go simpleton, and say a great passing game and a strong supporting running game. Duh!

Both passing games had a specialty strength that forced successes against opposing defenses. With Dallas, it was an Aikman beneficial timing and route running designed by Norv Turner. It created a flexible and dynamic passing game.

Now, both Jerry and Jason were around when that very offense was created...

Many of those aspects are in use here, today with the Cowboys. Precise routes and quarterback anticipation of just that.

Wait a second, there is a stumbling block of there just isn't the same degree of success today...and a desperate run to get rid of Jason.

Let's talk about an age old concept in sport. That is a flooded zone and paired with a quick break. That very element has existed in basketball, as effective, for over a hundred years...and works well today. It stresses defenses and changes character of games.

With the addition of Cooper, the Cowboys now have a trio of receivers, who can be used as a triangle and force the same pressure into the sidelines/center of field...with Cooper, Gallup, and Beasley. They can move an opposing defense completely around, trying to defense a fast breaking zone scheme. Not only this, but now who do you focus upon? The challenge of a quick hitting passing game that gives receivers an advantage, or a running game than can additionally now, use mis-direction and traps to open things up running?

I can't say if just such a direction will be used, now...but it does exist and could be used. That will in the end determine if Garrett sticks around, in my estimation.

In the mean time, I see a route for success, and when mixed with a greatly improving defense that will start fielding the best group of linebackers in the NFL...there can be success.

I'll first, give them the opportunity to rebuild their own NCO corp...and not claim departure is the only route, until that is finally earned. The offense is in place to again achieve, and the defense has returned to playoff calibers.
 

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Isn't that what most coach do... he has coordinators. ,
What else did Jimmy Johnson do besides motivate players

Jimmy came in and decided that Dallas needed speed on defense to become the defense he wanted it to be, and then went about giving his input on acquiring those players, putting together the No. 1 defense in the league.

Jimmy saw that the offensive system wasn't working and brought in the Rams' wide receivers coach to run the offense, a coach who had only been an offensive coordinator for one year on the college level before his first pro job.

Jimmy identified players needed for that offensive system and worked with the front office to acquire them as well. His Herschel Walker trade is still considered a benchmark.

So yes, during games, Jimmy let his coordinators do their job, but he identified who he needed to get those jobs done.
 

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Just flush some more attitude...


What if Dallas does not just advance to the rear, as is what you advocate?

What made the dynasty Cowboys' period or the Greatest Show on Turf excel?

Don't go simpleton, and say a great passing game and a strong supporting running game. Duh!

Both passing games had a specialty strength that forced successes against opposing defenses. With Dallas, it was an Aikman beneficial timing and route running designed by Norv Turner. It created a flexible and dynamic passing game.

Now, both Jerry and Jason were around when that very offense was created...

Many of those aspects are in use here, today with the Cowboys. Precise routes and quarterback anticipation of just that.

Wait a second, there is a stumbling block of there just isn't the same degree of success today...and a desperate run to get rid of Jason.

Let's talk about an age old concept in sport. That is a flooded zone and paired with a quick break. That very element has existed in basketball, as effective, for over a hundred years...and works well today. It stresses defenses and changes character of games.

With the addition of Cooper, the Cowboys now have a trio of receivers, who can be used as a triangle and force the same pressure into the sidelines/center of field...with Cooper, Gallup, and Beasley. They can move an opposing defense completely around, trying to defense a fast breaking zone scheme. Not only this, but now who do you focus upon? The challenge of a quick hitting passing game that gives receivers an advantage, or a running game than can additionally now, use mis-direction and traps to open things up running?

I can't say if just such a direction will be used, now...but it does exist and could be used. That will in the end determine if Garrett sticks around, in my estimation.

In the mean time, I see a route for success, and when mixed with a greatly improving defense that will start fielding the best group of linebackers in the NFL...there can be success.

I'll first, give them the opportunity to rebuild their own NCO corp...and not claim departure is the only route, until that is finally earned. The offense is in place to again achieve, and the defense has returned to playoff calibers.

You're tilting at windmills Don Quixote.

We all realize that Garrett will get until season's end to turn things around. And we agree that he should be fired if he doesn't.
 

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Because fans want to hold Garrett to some kind of normal responsibility and accountability as HC which nothing is further from reality here with Jerry. It’s absolutely pertinent to the measurement of Garrett.

Who knows what kind of HC Garrett could be in a normal situation.

And honestly I believe overall he’s propped up this franchise pretty well considering the distractions.

And FYI it’s called redirecting the discussion to insert your own narrative.

This literally proves my point I was trying to make.

You don't get it and I suspect you never will.
 

Sydla

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Isn't that what most coach do... he has coordinators. ,
What else did Jimmy Johnson do besides motivate players

So what you are saying is Jimmy Johnson did a better job motivating players than Jason has?

I mean Jimmy was way more successful here than Garrett.
 
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