Zeke or Kamara?

[CATCH17]

If there's 140 catches to go around between Pierre Thomas and Darren Sproles, there's enough to feed 2 backs in the receiving game if Payton wants to. Right now he's letting Kamara monopolize that.

I wouldn't bother.

The prisoner of the moment crowd is all over Kamara right now.

I think we can all agree that Kamara is a very good player but my gosh he's better then Zeke now? lol wow.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

I wouldn't bother.

The prisoner of the moment crowd is all over Kamara right now.

I think we can all agree that Kamara is a very good player but my gosh he's better then Zeke now? lol wow.

What is Zeke better at?

 

[CATCH17]

What is Zeke better at?

Everything except receiving.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Zeke over any other RB in the league.

Only back I think was better in the last 10 years was AP and Zeke will end up with an overall better career.

You’re a homer if you don’t take Gurley. Gurley is simply better.

 

[mattjames2010]

I wouldn't bother.

The prisoner of the moment crowd is all over Kamara right now.

I think we can all agree that Kamara is a very good player but my gosh he's better then Zeke now? lol wow.

Oh really, because your argument this entire time has been a mental gymnastics to make him seem like a JAG. Just another Pierre Thomas. Hell, you even made Sproles out to be a JAG....despite being one of the better receiving backs in history.

 

[MizzouCowboy4]

NOOOOOOO DONT DO THIS PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT DO THIS

Brees...still has it tbh

 

[CATCH17]

Oh really, because your argument this entire time has been a mental gymnastics to make him seem like a JAG. Just another Pierre Thomas. Hell, you even made Sproles out to be a JAG....despite being one of the better receiving backs in history.

Not a jag..

Just benefiting because of his situation and is not better then Zeke.

The point of this thread is that he’s better then Zeke and he’s just not.

 

[mattjames2010]

Everything except receiving.

What makes Zeke a better runner? You think Kamara last season, when he was averaging 6.1 YPC couldn't have done what Zeke did in 2016 behind that offensive line?

You get Murray had 1,800 yards and McFadden had 1,000 yards behind that line right? I mean, since we are bringing up surrounding talent to discredit individual players.

 

[mattjames2010]

Not a jag..

Just benefiting because of his situation and is not better then Zeke.

The point of this thread is that he’s better then Zeke and he’s just not.

....and HOW THE HECK did Zeke not benefit with the Cowboys? Murray had more yards behind our line than Zeke did, and McFadden (seriously) found a way to top 1,000 yards in like 11 games.

So again, what are you talking about? If Kamara gets discredited due to "offensive system" and surrounding players, Zeke looks even more a product of his surroundings.

 

[CATCH17]

What makes Zeke a better runner? You think Kamara last season, when he was averaging 6.1 YPC couldn't have done what Zeke did in 2016 behind that offensive line?

You get Murray had 1,800 yards and McFadden had 1,000 yards behind that line right? I mean, since we are bringing up surrounding talent to discredit individual players.

Zeke will probably lead the league in rushing this year with a struggling line on a team that can’t convert 3rd downs.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Everything except receiving.

That's what I thought. A pathetic answer.

1. Okay so Kamara averages way more ypc than Zeke right?

Let's take a look at broken tackles
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/2017/rotopass-broken-tackles
Zeke breaks a tackle on 9.6% of touches, Kamara is 50% better than that at 15%

Well if he isnt breaking tackles could he be more elusive?

Well not if your bottom 5 in the entire league

"But theyre able to stack the box more against us than the Saints so thatll lower ypc"

Mark Ingram is 5th hughest in the league in stacked boxes lmao

So we've already established that he's a 10x better receiver and we've established he's not as good a runner than Kamara. What shall you pull out of your hat next? Youve seen this year Zeke really regress in pass blocking, is that what youll cling to next?

You see this is why us that watch the two laugh at yalls silly and uneducated posts.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Zeke will probably lead the league in rushing this year with a struggling line on a team that can’t convert 3rd downs.

You dodged his entire comment

 

[CATCH17]

That's what I thought. A pathetic answer.

1. Okay so Kamara averages way more ypc than Zeke right?

Let's take a look at broken tackles
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/2017/rotopass-broken-tackles
Zeke breaks a tackle on 9.6% of touches, Kamara is 50% better than that at 15%

Well if he isnt breaking tackles could he be more elusive?

Well not if your bottom 5 in the entire league

"But theyre able to stack the box more against us than the Saints so thatll lower ypc"

Mark Ingram is 5th hughest in the league in stacked boxes lmao

So we've already established that he's a 10x better receiver and we've established he's not as good a runner than Kamara. What shall you pull out of your hat next? Youve seen this year Zeke really regress in pass blocking, is that what youll cling to next?

You see this is why us that watch the two laugh at yalls silly and uneducated posts.

You’ve established that Kamara is a better runner.

That’s laughable to most people.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

You’ve established that Kamara is a better runner.

That’s laughable to most people.

Laughable to the uneducated. Hopefully I have helped you in that department.

You lose, this was fun though.

 

[CATCH17]

You dodged his entire comment

Not really.

I’m saying Zeke is still producing surrounded by crap and Kamara wouldn’t be on anyone’s mind if he were here right now.

 

[CATCH17]

Laughable to the uneducated. Hopefully I have helped you in that department.

You lose, this was fun though.

Nope I won. Sorry.

 

[mattjames2010]

Not really.

I’m saying Zeke is still producing surrounded by crap and Kamara wouldn’t be on anyone’s mind if he were here right now.

He's still producing? 2 out of the last 3 weeks, he's had under 4 yards per carry. He's had 3 good games on the ground this year, and I'm being nice because that Seattle game was the worst game of his career with the mental mistakes.

I think he's been incredibly inconsistent this year.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Nope I won. Sorry.

Nope. Wiped you out with a post that had stats, facts, and sources to back them.

You dont like those, they get in the way of your laughably dumb assertions. You didnt even have a somewhat coherent rebuttal, you just bent right over.

Moral of the story is know the topic before commenting on it or you'll come out looking foolish.

 

[CATCH17]

He's still producing? 2 out of the last 3 weeks, he's had under 4 yards per carry. He's had 3 good games on the ground this year, and I'm being nice because that Seattle game was the worst game of his career with the mental mistakes.

I think he's been incredibly inconsistent this year.

We’re going to nitpick a game here and there?

You’re shocked that another nfl team can shut down a guy when that guy is their only offensive threat?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

We’re going to nitpick a game here and there?

You’re shocked that another nfl team can shut down a guy when that guy is their only offensive threat?

Those dang facts getting in the way again? Hate to see it.