News: ST: The Cooper effect. How an unsatisfied Amari Cooper has improved the Cowboys offense

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Third down Conversion %:

Before Cooper = 31%, (29th in the league)

(last three games) 50% (7th in the league)


The impact on Prescott:

His completion percentage before Cooper’s arrival was 62.1. It has been 69.7 since.

His quarterback rating was 87.4 before and is 96.4 after.

He averaged 202.4 passing yards per game before and is at 240.3 after.

His yards per attempt has gone up from 6.9 to 7.3.

And of course, the Cowboys have a 2-1 record.

and we also played against two bottom 10 defenses in the last two games. number 25 and 29....maybe, just maybe that had a little something to do with it

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

18 points (if you take out the Jax game) versus 21.

A small increase but 21 points per game still ranks in the bottom 12 or so in football.

So the premise here that Cooper has transformed our offense is a reach at this point.

ok, then lets take the Panthers game out to....I mean if you are being selective to support your stats....

 

[Doomsday101]

And yet our scoring per game has gone up only a point.

People are trying way too hard to justify the trade at this point digging up stats that have improved that show he's making a big impact but ignoring others that show he's had little impact (one being arguably the most important stat, scoring).

Also, if you go to some advanced stats, the impact seems minimal. From Week 9 to Week 10, for example, the Cowboys Offensive DVOA actually went down from 25 to 26 (they haven't updated through Week 11 yet). Their pass offense per Football Outsiders also dropped.

I think what it's telling us is that while on the surface adding a talent like Cooper at WR should/could help, there are more issues at play here to our offensive mediocrity than who was playing WR.

and they have played 3 games with each other, I also mentioned they need to do a better job in the redzone and not settle for 3's. You act as if they have been together through out the season he hasn't and they should be able to develop better chemistry as they move forward. What I see is defenses having to account for him and it is showing in the run game but it is also opening up the field more. 3 games I grant you is to small of a sample. If you don't like the trade that is fine each to their own.

 

[Sydla]

ok, then lets take the Panthers game out to....I mean if you are being selective to support your stats....

What are you talking about?

I only took out the Jacksonville game because a poster here tried to argue our scoring in the first 10 games was inflated because of that one score. In other words, our scoring is way up with Cooper compared to before Cooper therefore he's making a big impact.

I was just trying to show him that even if you take out the outlier in Jacksonville (which would lower our average per game prior to Cooper), the addition of Cooper has not had as big an impact as some seem to think.

 

[Sydla]

and they have played 3 games with each other, I also mentioned they need to do a better job in the redzone and not settle for 3's. You act as if they have been together through out the season he hasn't and they should be able to develop better chemistry as they move forward. What I see is defenses having to account for him and it is showing in the run game but it is also opening up the field more. 3 games I grant you is to small of a sample. If you don't like the trade that is fine each to their own.

I am not acting like anything. The article and fans of the article in this thread are arguing that Cooper has indeed had a big impact on the offense.

I quibble with that notion because a look at the stats and efficiency of the offense hasn't really changed all that much. Even taking into account the notion that defenses now have to account for him and game plan for him, the overall results aren't showing a big improvement in the offense overall.

Maybe it will with time, I don't know. But right now, trying to plant the flag and call the Cooper trade a big win because he's transformed our offense is a reach at this time. I like Cooper a lot. I think the price paid was too high. I am not sure he alone solves our offensive issues. While a small sample size, I think you are seeing that maybe our offensive issues weren't just tied to a lack of a #1 WR type.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What are you talking about?

I only took out the Jacksonville game because a poster here tried to argue our scoring in the first 10 games was inflated because of that one score. In other words, our scoring is way up with Cooper compared to before Cooper therefore he's making a big impact.

I was just trying to show him that even if you take out the outlier in Jacksonville (which would lower our average per game prior to Cooper), the addition of Cooper has not had as big an impact as some seem to think.

ok..... in that case, you are right....then you should have told the original poster to take out the panthers game......

 

[Doomsday101]

I am not acting like anything. The article and fans of the article in this thread are arguing that Cooper has indeed had a big impact on the offense.

I quibble with that notion because a look at the stats and efficiency of the offense hasn't really changed all that much.

Maybe it will with time, I don't know. But right now, trying to plant the flag at midfield and call the Cooper trade a big win because he's transformed our offense is a reach at this time.

I think seeing Zeke with more room to run has something to do with Cooper and guess what so does Zeke who has said the same thing. I think going from 31% conversion to now 50% is a big difference that allows us to continue drives as opposed to punting it. As for points again they are moving the ball and getting themselves in the redzone and as I said that is where they must turn it up.

 

[davidariust24]

Just being one the field, he has changed the whole dynamic of the team and how we get open and score

 

[Philmonroe]

Don't be a jerk. He's a fan, and it's nonsense to be a jerk to a fan simply because he cheers for the team even when things are down. Isn't cheering for the team to succeed the very basis of what a fan is?

Nothing worse than online defenders of grown men like I'm a bully. Hell outta here. Talk/post to your kids that way but leave me alone with this trash. I'm not being a jerk you are. The man said he going to cheer and I said be a cheerleader but this O is fools gold. Who the hell said anything about not wanting the team to succeed? Why do you come on here as some faux superhero. This isn't a girl honor you're defending. Stop that trash and let that man respond if he so chooses but don't hit me with some jerk card because you don't like what I said. You too @Melonfeud

 

[Sydla]

ok..... in that case, you are right....then you should have told the original poster to take out the panthers game......

Probably. LOL.

But I knew, even adjusting for the outlier, the difference in scoring between pre and post Cooper wasn't great enough anyway to make claims that our offense has been transformed with Cooper.

 

[Melonfeud]

Nothing worse than online defenders of grown men like I'm a bully. Hell outta here. Talk/post to your kids that way but leave me alone with this trash. I'm not being a jerk you are. The man said he going to cheer and I said be a cheerleader but this O is fools gold. Who the hell said anything about not wanting the team to succeed? Why do you come on here as some faux superhero. This isn't a girl honor you're defending. Stop that trash and let that man respond if he so chooses but don't hit me with some jerk card because you don't like what I said. You too @Melonfeud

yer' a mite fuzzed up& taking umbrage over where& when& to who& fer' what I'm laying my esteemed & highly prized "LIKES" casing-liners down on ,are ya now?
best of my suggestion to YOU,,, SPORTSFAN!
Is to peel all that frilly lace offa' yer' man panties,Pal!
Cuz' it's obviously influencing yer' delicate sensibilities

 

[imjunsul]

Third down Conversion %:

Before Cooper = 31%, (29th in the league)

(last three games) 50% (7th in the league)


The impact on Prescott:

His completion percentage before Cooper’s arrival was 62.1. It has been 69.7 since.

His quarterback rating was 87.4 before and is 96.4 after.

He averaged 202.4 passing yards per game before and is at 240.3 after.

His yards per attempt has gone up from 6.9 to 7.3.

And of course, the Cowboys have a 2-1 record.

But who did we play against? How good are their defense?

 

[Denim Chicken]

But who did we play against? How good are their defense?

Titans #2 in PPG

Eagles #12 in PPG (after NOLA)

Atlanta #29 PPG

 

[Blackrain]

I get it you're easy to impress so this is so awesome to you on offense. Go ahead be a cheerleader for avg play. I just stated you're easily impressed by avg stuff. I will be impressed when we get a real qb to go along with the real coaching staff. Until then all of this is fools gold.

Call me what you want Im a Cowboys Fan . Wallow in negativity if it makes you feel better . I choose not to

 

[JGRXXN]

Third down Conversion %:

Before Cooper = 31%, (29th in the league)

(last three games) 50% (7th in the league)


The impact on Prescott:

His completion percentage before Cooper’s arrival was 62.1. It has been 69.7 since.

His quarterback rating was 87.4 before and is 96.4 after.

He averaged 202.4 passing yards per game before and is at 240.3 after.

His yards per attempt has gone up from 6.9 to 7.3.

And of course, the Cowboys have a 2-1 record.

Look like an improvement to me but people don't wanna hear fax lol

 

[JGRXXN]

That makes no sense. You’d rather them get a inferior player in rounds where it’s tougher to find talent.

He's just mad bc he blames Dak for Dez getting cut lol

 

[Philmonroe]

yer' a mite fuzzed up& taking umbrage over where& when& to who& fer' what I'm laying my esteemed & highly prized "LIKES" casing-liners down on ,are ya now?
best of my suggestion to YOU,,, SPORTSFAN!
Is to peel all that frilly lace offa' yer' man panties,Pal!
Cuz' it's obviously influencing yer' delicate sensibilities

Dont matter since you wouldn't say it to me offline so eh

 

[Philmonroe]

Call me what you want Im a Cowboys Fan . Wallow in negativity if it makes you feel better . I choose not to

I didn't call you nothing you didn't say so get out your feelings. You too online tough guy @rocyaice . I don't wallow in negativity. Just because I don't make things something they aren't doesn't mean I'm negative. It's not one or the other smdh.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No one has ever suggested that the Cowboys would never take a WR in the first round. What people have said is that it's bogus that people are suggesting it's OK we traded a 1st round pick for a WR because we were going to use our first round pick on a WR anyway.

What? Those two statements are saying the exact same thing lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I didn't call you nothing you didn't say so get out your feelings. You too online tough guy @rocyaice . I don't wallow in negativity. Just because I don't make things something they aren't doesn't mean I'm negative. It's not one or the other smdh.

The hell do I have to do with your conversation with Black Rain?