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[buybuydandavis]

No the OL folded. I see y'all love to make excuses for Romo failing time and time again in the playoffs....... Well just the few times he made the playoffs anyways.

Tony didn't fail time and again in the playoffs. Our team did. Except maybe against Seattle, where he fumbled twice, Tony was never the problem, and he was often what we had going even in losses.

His game against GB was about as good as it was possible to be, and that's not counting getting robbed by the UnCatch.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I brought this up in the game thread Monday night. But no, there were 3 goofballs that kept giving me a hard time.
Even when I joked about Goff and Mahomes and errant throws, the Dak haters could not take it.
They did not want to accept the fact Mahomes had what, 6 turnovers. But he had 6 TD's they claimed, yes, but he also lost.

Many times I wonder why so many on here are fans at all.
I am not a big Dak fan, but I am willing to wait and see how this season goes.

Right Dak isn't perfect but he has the tools to be very good. You see it at times when he looks unstoppable. I think better coaching is what Dak needs, just look at Goff. The Dak haters love saying he can't be Goff but those same ones were calling him a bust his rookie year

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Tony didn't fail time and again in the playoffs. Our team did. Except maybe against Seattle, where he fumbled twice, Tony was never the problem, and he was often what we had going even in losses.

His game against GB was about as good as it was possible to be, and that's not counting getting robbed by the UnCatch.

He had Witten and Beasley wide open for the first down but went with the tough catch with Dez. Romo deserves just as much blame as anybody else

 

[Romotil45]

Perhaps you should do some research because Mahomes ain't a rookie. Go research and try again

Your right he is in his second year Daks in his third. Mahomes has 37 TD and 10 ints. Dak has 11 TD passing and 5 ints. Sad really.

 

[nate dizzle]

Perhaps you should do some research because Mahomes ain't a rookie. Go research and try again

He isn't a rookie. He sat his first year. So basically redshirted. Other than being technically accurate, why is this relevant in any comparison of the 2 QBs? I mean, it doesn't change the fact that Dak simply isn't on the same level as Mahomes. Anyone here that feels he is should step back and think:

If Mahomes was the QB of the Cowboys and Dak was the QB of the Chiefs, what would my response be if someone suggested this?

 

[jazzcat22]

Tony didn't fail time and again in the playoffs. Our team did. Except maybe against Seattle, where he fumbled twice, Tony was never the problem, and he was often what we had going even in losses.

His game against GB was about as good as it was possible to be, and that's not counting getting robbed by the UnCatch.

Tony had many times we could have won, but threw picks late in the game. And at the goal line when we were about to score.
Funny how many Tony lovers there are after he is gone, and they are Dak haters, that bring up Tony constantly.

I remember a lot of times of frustrations with Tony as I do with Dak.
Yes Tony kept us in many games but yet what was his overall success. Are we not in every game with Dak also.

So in hindsight no one wants to blame Tony for losses, it was team losses.
But Dak can't have a team loss, it is all on him.
Cherry picked double standards.

 

[Romotil45]

He isn't a rookie. He sat his first year. So basically redshirted. Other than being technically accurate, why is this relevant in any comparison of the 2 QBs? I mean, it doesn't change the fact that Dak simply isn't on the same level as Mahomes. Anyone here that feels he is should step back and think:

If Mahomes was the QB of the Cowboys and Dak was the QB of the Chiefs, what would my response be if someone suggested this?

Agreed if Dak was the QB of the chiefs Dak would not have 37 TD and 10 picks. Dak simply does not have the velocity of Mahomes and cannot fit the ball into tight windows like Mahomes does. Mahomes is elite and Dak is below average.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Im talking about making the playoffs year in and year out and actually winning in the playoffs. How many playoff games did Dak win in 16 ? That's my point. You need a great pocket passer and great coaching to do it. example the Patriots. History proves my point.

People always want to use the Patriots to justify their arguments, when they are the exception and not the rule when talking about NFL teams. Brady doesn't do that by himself, he's had the benefit of a great coach and organization that has always been able to find players that work well within their system. He's always had a pretty good OL, some years better than others, but never bad, same with their defense and skill position players.

It takes more than just having a great pocket passer, Brees has too many 8-8 or worse seasons and too few Superbowl appearances if that were true. Rivers is a great pocket passer, but has only made the playoffs a handful of times. Stafford has a big arm and can make every throw, but how many playoff appearances does he have? Kirk Cousins just got paid a boatload of money and how many playoffs has he been to? His team may not even make the playoffs again this year. QB may be the most important position, but it comes down to how well the whole team is constructed., it takes more than a great QB to make the playoffs year in and year out. The only exception is probably Rodgers, who has had some very suspect teams around him and still manages to get his team to the playoffs. Even as great as he is, it still takes a whole team to be real contenders and the Packers have really wasted a lot of years by not building a better team.

 

[McKDaddy]

Yes we have good pieces. But we lack a pocket passer who has velocity to fit the ball into tight widows, who has the confidence to attack 1 on 1 coverage vertically, and who can read a defense. We also lack great coaching.

That sums it up accurately. We have a very good roster. One that has been improved dramatically over the last say 5 years. And it will be lucky to finish 8-8 or 9-7 because you don't have the most important piece on the field and a negative influence calling the shots.

 

[Risen Star]

Your right he is in his second year Daks in his third. Mahomes has 37 TD and 10 ints. Dak has 11 TD passing and 5 ints. Sad really.

That's not fair. Mahomes has talent.

 

[Idgit]

Which is it?

Both, since the two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

 

[WillieBeamen]

What in the heck has Wentz done to be in the top 8? I am a little bit serious here too. I would not say he is top 8 this year.
I do like him at QB, hate he is on the Eagles. But not top 8.

Hands down league MVP last year before his injury.


Which 8 QBs in this league are better?

 

[nate dizzle]

Both, since the two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

Yeah, when I think of clutch QB's, I also think "easily rattled."

 

[Idgit]

Yeah, when I think of clutch QB's, I also think "easily rattled."

Not all of them fit that description. But Dak does. Even in his most jittery games I’d still trust him on a final drive with the ball in his hands. He might not have led another decent scoring drive all night, but he’ll get the team in position to score.

See the last WAS game for reference.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Not all of them fit that description. But Dak does. Even in his most jittery games I’d still trust him on a final drive with the ball in his hands. He might not have led another decent scoring drive all night, but he’ll get the team in position to score.

See the last WAS game for reference.

Clutch

 

[Idgit]

Clutch

Put down the agenda, check the data.

I never suggested he wins every time in those situations. That’s not what “clutch”means.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Your right he is in his second year Daks in his third. Mahomes has 37 TD and 10 ints. Dak has 11 TD passing and 5 ints. Sad really.

It's not the same offense. What's sad is the fact you think they play the same offense and have the same play makers and coaches

 

[Irvin88_4life]

He isn't a rookie. He sat his first year. So basically redshirted. Other than being technically accurate, why is this relevant in any comparison of the 2 QBs? I mean, it doesn't change the fact that Dak simply isn't on the same level as Mahomes. Anyone here that feels he is should step back and think:

If Mahomes was the QB of the Cowboys and Dak was the QB of the Chiefs, what would my response be if someone suggested this?

Hate to tell you this but Daks numbers would look better if you switch the QBs. Mahomes would still be in a Garrett offense which is a run first offense. By the way I'm not trying to debate if Dak is better than Mahomes but you fools think that having sat on the bench a year, having Reid and all those play makers doesn't help his numbers.

 

[ClintDagger]

Hands down league MVP last year before his injury.


Which 8 QBs in this league are better?

I think it is tough to grade Wentz this year coming off of that injury. I think he gets a pass this year and then next year is when it is fair to grade him again. Even Brady in ‘09 was not quite himself after his injury and that happened several months earlier than Wentz’ did. By ‘10 Brady was back to full strength and I think Wentz will be next year too.

 

[Future]

He’s already proven your analysis isn’t very accurate, as far as I’m concerned. We didn’t have a top five defense in 2016 and were contenders.

They were 5th in PPG, 1st in Rush YPG, and 14th in Pass YPG.

Some of that was because the offense could sustain drives, but this offense absolutely can't win without a good defense. The Falcons could have won the game by halftime if the Cowboys D wasn't so good.