News: David Irving in seemingly constant loop of no shows

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as I have said in other threads, he is dead to me....I would NOT cut him yet because you just know that he would finally be motivated and use the "cutting" as the thing to get him to play, and he signs with one of our opponents just to screw with us.....so, once dallas is done (around 10:30p on Feb 3rd), cut him immediately
 

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If Dallas can get anything out of him for this season great, after the season just release him. This team needs to get rid of these distractive players who are constantly getting suspended. Irving misses 4 games each of the past 2 seasons, then he misses with injury he is barley a part of this team.
 

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I really wanted Irving on this team at the end of last season. Though I wasn't happy about it, I could deal with the suspension. But then he missed basically all of the off-season activities including training camp, has practiced maybe a few times since his suspension ended, played a couple snaps, got hurt and has barely been seen around the facility since. It's hard because he's very talented and is a difference maker when he is on the field, but he hasn't been on the field.

I would still make him an offer though. It'd be a very small contract initially with incentives tied to it. Maybe give him an out after the year is over or something like that. If he doesn't want to sign it and some other team offers him something, then let him walk. It's not like we are missing out on anything with him not playing.
 

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I really wanted Irving on this team at the end of last season. Though I wasn't happy about it, I could deal with the suspension. But then he missed basically all of the off-season activities including training camp, has practiced maybe a few times since his suspension ended, played a couple snaps, got hurt and has barely been seen around the facility since. It's hard because he's very talented and is a difference maker when he is on the field, but he hasn't been on the field.

I would still make him an offer though. It'd be a very small contract initially with incentives tied to it. Maybe give him an out after the year is over or something like that. If he doesn't want to sign it and some other team offers him something, then let him walk. It's not like we are missing out on anything with him not playing.

I get what your saying but this team really has to change the culture around here. I remember when Jimmy came to Dallas, Irvin said he gave Jimmy a list of names of players who were here for a paycheck and needed to go. I want players who are 100% committed to this team and to winning and if you are not then you need to go. There is part of me who commends Jerry for giving a guy a 2nd chance but once that players blows that chance and then chooses not to show up for workouts, OTA and other team activities it shows me that player is not committed to this team and the success of the team. He is only here for a paycheck and he needs to go.
 

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Give Irving what he wants. Cut him already. Just take the loss. He obviously doesn't want to play, nor has he any respect for Jerry, the coaches, organization or the team.

Enough with the excuses.
Why?
Why cut a guy who is under contract cheap. Irving May never play again but one thing no one can deny is he has super talent. If you can fix him you have a great player. If not maybe you atleast give him an opportunity to fix his life
He’s no different than Gregory
Gregory could fall off the wagon tomorrow or he may turn into a great player. But at the very least once you’ve taken a guy like this, knowing you had to fix them before you get anything out of them, you want to give every effort to do so
 

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Dude has mental issues beyond what this team can help him with. He's basically Rolando McClain with less overall production and he maybe signed for cheap, but if he's getting free money to just jerk the team around, then cut him under the behavior detrimental to the team clause and let him be someone else's headache. Even if he balls out somewhere else, it doesn't matter because he dang sure doesn't care to do that here.
 

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The sad thing is. He could have given us an elite pass rush. If we just get him to give us 10 plays in the Wild card game. I am still holding out hope.
 

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Why?
Why cut a guy who is under contract cheap. Irving May never play again but one thing no one can deny is he has super talent. If you can fix him you have a great player. If not maybe you atleast give him an opportunity to fix his life
He’s no different than Gregory
Gregory could fall off the wagon tomorrow or he may turn into a great player. But at the very least once you’ve taken a guy like this, knowing you had to fix them before you get anything out of them, you want to give every effort to do so

He is also a distraction to this team, he can't be counted on and is no more than a guy looking for a paycheck, he does not give a rats backside about this team or the success of the team. He needs to go, I'm tired of losers like this on the team. Yes he has talent but his talent means nothing if he is not playing. To me if people want to see a change in culture around here you do it by ditching guys who are only interested in a pay day.
 

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Irving left practice after the Washington game with an ankle sprain. Although he was carted off the field, the initial diagnosis had reported the sprain to be on the mild side of the scale – sighs of relief abound. Ankle sprains can take from two weeks up to eight weeks before a player is ready to return. He passed the eight-week threshold against Indianapolis on Sunday.

Within that time frame, and with the caveat that a recovery is different for everyone, many players are already back to practice, working on resistance cords and often going through scout team work for up to a couple weeks before making it back to the big club.

Irving has, reportedly, not been around. He reportedly hasn’t been attending meetings. He reportedly hasn’t been rehabbing with the club. There are possible explanations for the latter, such as rehabbing with his own trainers, which are perfectly acceptable. It doesn’t account for not showing up to The Star.

The dude is injured, what are you guys talking about?!!?
High ankle sprain
 

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Why?
Why cut a guy who is under contract cheap. Irving May never play again but one thing no one can deny is he has super talent. If you can fix him you have a great player. If not maybe you atleast give him an opportunity to fix his life
He’s no different than Gregory
Gregory could fall off the wagon tomorrow or he may turn into a great player. But at the very least once you’ve taken a guy like this, knowing you had to fix them before you get anything out of them, you want to give every effort to do so
Speaking of Gregory. Now that Bryant and Gordon are back on the suspended list, you gotta wonder about how long he will last.
 

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Well...where are all the Irving fan boys? Been saying flush this doped up turd since last season. It's now past time, pull the handle and dump the turd.
 

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Well...where are all the Irving fan boys? Been saying flush this doped up turd since last season. It's now past time, pull the handle and dump the turd.
Wow, you guys are bashing a guy who is injured!
 

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Wow, you guys are bashing a guy who is injured!
He is past that small injury. Dude is a crap stain another of jerry's boys who can't get it together, a loser in so many words. Either can't play due to suspension, or hurt, or personal issues or a fairy farted in his coffee, or..........
 

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One of the truly sad aspects of the David Irving situation is the way it is being played out in the media and with fans.

Can you imagine your personal issues splashed about publicly and in your work place. I can't. Admittedly, some of his issues are self-inflicted. Still, not a great feeling or look to have your personal issues and problem displayed publicly.
 

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Irving won't play.

If he's not back by now they aren't going to take someones spot away for Irving.
 

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Stay the course. It's on David whether he wants to help the Hot Boyz make this playoff run. Zero upside in releasing Dave, just play this out then choose not to resign him.

Football isn't life or important in the grand scheme of things, so I hope Dave enjoys his life.
 
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