Dak is good enough to win a Super Bowl--is Garrett?

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Well for starters in his 3rd year he has won a lot more games than your god Tony Romo. He will also be taking the Dallas Cowboys to a second playoff appearance in 3 years, something this team never did under Tony Romo.
How can someone be so wrong in so many ways? This take a complete lack of understanding of the game, and of facts.

Wow.
 

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Right because Dak Prescott found some way to make it all the way through High School, College and the NFL draft with no talent. This is some weapons grade stupid drivel you are floating out there.

His limited talents work up to college level....the rest well you see it on the field every Sunday....NFL ball is way above his talent level.....now tell me about how many wins we have with him and then try to convince yourself we won all those games due to Daks QB skills.....:huh:
 

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Yes, this old college linebacker who is now 25 pounds overweight said it. Here is why I believe so even is Dak is or is not the best QB in our division (heck, at this point it might be Foles).

The NFL and the NBA have something in common with wanting to create more offense over the years, and that is using analytics the way MLB has done. Ironically, the impact has been far greater in the NBA and NFL than MLB.

The key is creating ways to more efficiently create offense. It took a while for coaches in the NBA to break tradition, but the 3 point shot is simply more efficient than the 2 point shot. This realization have virtually made the lumbering big post players who sucked on offense obsolete in today's NBA. Even post players who were offensively elite in college are useless--see Jahlil Okafor for a great example. Why is this? Because with the emphasis on perimeter play, "bigs" have to be able to switch cleanly and effectively while playing defense away from the basket. Coaches scheme this way. The few teams that are holdouts, such as Memphis, have no shot of going deep into the playoffs. Teams with individual outlier players like the 76ers with Embiid can play both ways, and in a way they are the only team who can play the game from the inside out today in the NBA with any degree of success. For most teams, it doesn't make sense to play any other way. If you don't have 3 point shooters, you aren't winning in today's NBA.

How has this happened in the NFL? There have always been coaches with a unique twist on schemes--Bill Walsh on offense, Buddy Ryan on defense--but variations of the West Coast offense have proven to be the most efficient way for most teams to move the ball. Fans wanted to see more action within the football games. Pass minded coaches like Sid Gillman, Don Coryell, and Bill Walsh won championships with passing offenses. What I believe caught the attention of many observers was that Walsh's offensive philosophy was unlike previous air attacks that threw only in long-yardage situations or to surprise the opponent.

Why was Walsh so successful? He was lucky enough have a smart QB who was also accurate by the standards of his day. Walsh identified something: a strong, inaccurate arm that throws long incompletions accomplishes nothing (see Jeff George, Jay Cutler, etc.). The most important component of a QB's arsenal is the ability to accurately deliver short passes in the 5-15 yard range to WR's and RB's.

Dak doesn't have the strongest arm for sure, but he has become very accurate. He also has a running game to support him. An accurate passer in that 5-15 yard range plus a RB that can move the chains can win most games on any day with the proper scheme. And that is the kicker...

Who creates the schemes? The coaching staff, and the lead role is taken by the head coach. We don't have Bill Bellicheat, Bill Walsh, Sean Payton, or even Andy Reid. We have Jason Garrett. Garrett has one of the most accurate QB's in the NFL. He has one of the best, if not the best, RB in the NFL. He has a certifiable weapon in Cooper. The defense is very good; when healthy, the o-line is top three in the NFL.

We just watched in two weeks a Philadelphia team led by Nick Foles rip apart the Rams and Texans defenses with a worse running game, o-line, and defense. That team looks like they can beat anyone in the league right now, and are not as good as we are.

If Garrett can't get it done by next year, he must go. Period.
Why does Foles get credit for winning but not Dak?
 

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Why does Foles get credit for winning but not Dak?

Cause Foles can throw all game long passes over 20 yards with accuracy....and doesn't panic in the pocket...and and and and man Dak has more flaws than a YUGO.....
 

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Cause Foles can throw all game long passes over 20 yards with accuracy....and doesn't panic in the pocket...and and and and man Dak has more flaws than a YUGO.....
So why does Foles get credit for winning and Dak doesn’t? Isn’t winning all that counts?
 

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Okay and we picked a kid in the 4th round that went to Mississippi state, hardly a perennial powerhouse. Somehow wound up getting drafted. I guess he pulled the wool over everyones eyes there and has somehow managed to win games in the NFL but I guess that's wrong too because wins apparently can only be assigned to QB's not named Dak Prescott. The insane levels of hatred of this kid is staggering. It isn't even honest criticism, just blind hatred.

I don't think it's blind hatred, it just the truth so far with Dak. Dak has the skill set to play at an elite level against inferior players like in High school and College, and had just enough talent to enter the draft. Problem is, the Cowboys had the misfortune of drafting him, now they are stuck, sort of speaking. He is just not talented or smart enough to play outstanding NFL football. Oh, he will get by and win some games, but then again, it's not him winning any of the games, it is others on the team, and you can guess who they are. One other thing, you say some of us that critique him have "blind hatred"? Have you thought about perhaps you have "blind love"? Honestly, watch his play...and then be honest with yourself.
 

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as someone else stated (locimus) Dak is good enough to win with Zeke getting his 150 scrimmage yards, defense being top 10, and maher is able to kick 60 yard field goals. Dak has enough time to hold onto the ball long enough to scan or run, still get hit and fumble, so for the most part the OL is also giving him plenty of time. World class leader right there!
 

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How can someone be so wrong in so many ways? This take a complete lack of understanding of the game, and of facts.

Wow.

What exactly is wrong about that? Has Dak Prescott as the QB of the Dallas Cowboys not led the Cowboys to a winning record in each of his 3 seasons. He will be leading the Cowboys to a second playoff appearance in 3 years. I get that you hate the kid but at least be honest that these are things the Cowboys have achieved with Dak Prescott as QB.
 

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we should have and could have won one with Romo, Dak has enough with a great team around him...

However the true Achilles heal of this team that Jerry is ignoring is Jason and scot are holding us back, we need coach to draw every bit of talent out of our players especially Dak with scheme and playcalling.. so far the steady part of our drought is HC and GM..the GM and Mclay for sure is drafting better then last 5-7 years but IGNORE the fact that Garett can still take them to the BIG game..
 

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If you look at Daks accuracy BEFORE our genius staff adjusted his throwing motion he had much better placement and touch.
I suggest we hire a QB coach and a OC asap.
We can kill about 9 birds with 2 stones.
 

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His limited talents work up to college level....the rest well you see it on the field every Sunday....NFL ball is way above his talent level.....now tell me about how many wins we have with him and then try to convince yourself we won all those games due to Daks QB skills.....:huh:

So what does that tell us about NFL teams that have lost to a Dak Prescott led Cowboys team? Are they all college level teams?
 

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So why does Foles get credit for winning and Dak doesn’t? Isn’t winning all that counts?

Cause fans have "Eyes" and can clearly see who is winning our Cowboy games....just take a look at last year SB and tell me how big of a role Foles played in that victory and then compare to Dak....really now....we aren't blind and stupid...keep trying to sell Dak ....maybe its just a job for you as Dak is a expert selling himself on social media.....
 

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Cause fans have "Eyes" and can clearly see who is winning our Cowboy games....just take a look at last year SB and tell me how big of a role Foles played in that victory and then compare to Dak....really now....we aren't blind and stupid...keep trying to sell Dak ....maybe its just a job for you as Dak is a expert selling himself on social media.....
Then why do you always blame Dak when we lose?
 

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So what does that tell us about NFL teams that have lost to a Dak Prescott led Cowboys team? Are they all college level teams?

That tells me the teams that the Cowboys have won is because of a solid defense, and maybe the 10 or 14 points Dak somehow manages to luck out on.
 

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Then why do you always blame Dak when we lose?

51 sacks 12 fumbles last 5 seed in passing offense in the NFL ...who the heck else we going to blame???

Santa???? LOL
P.S. I blame him when we win also as we win in-spite of him...
 

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Then why do you always blame Dak when we lose?

Well, for one, the QB always takes the blame, however, it the cat could put together some TD's more than 1 or 2 a game, well, there you are.
 
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