Any reason to believe Dak era will surpass Romo era?

uvaballa

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Assuming the coaching doesn’t get better is Dak enough to take us further than Romo did with this HC?

Is our 22nd ranked QB just a great coach away from becoming a top 10 QB?
Yes I think he can get it done with a better OC/HC. Cowboys should be running play action passes as much or more than the Rams. I believe I heard they run play action on more than 50% of their passes. Cowboy’s run the ball well enough to do the same.

I will say it’s much easier to get it done before your QB gets that first big contract. But I think Dak is on par with 3rd year Wilson and 3rd year Big Ben. Go look at the stats if you think he’s playing worse than those guys when they won SBs.
 

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He needs elite talent surrounding him. How would this roster do with an elite QB?
Elite QBs like Rodgers and Brees who only have one SB? Having an elite QB means nothing except you’ll likely be able to score more points. I’d rather have a decent QB and have an elite D.
 

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I think both eras will disappoint, but for different reasons.

With Romo, it was almost inevitable that he would throw an untimely interception in the big game. That one Week 17 game he sat out a few years ago that was a defacto NFCE Championship game, Kyle Orton did the same thing. Dak has more young talent on this team than Romo ever did, with the exception of maybe the 2007 team. I think Dak is a competitor. I think he's tough and I think he wants to win, but his skill set is too limited to win a Super Bowl in today's NFL. The only way it's possible is if he had a defense similar to or better than the 85 Bears or 00 Ravens.
 

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If this dysfunctional organization couldn’t build a good enough team around Romo why do we believe they will around Dak?
Good teams make the playoffs we'd agree?

Therefore, the team did..Romo failed to lead his good teams beyond Divisional 2 times and Wildcard once.

If Pro and college department continue trend, Dak will have an 8-10 win team ( San major injuries).
The question should be can Dak do more with the teams given?
 

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Wait, I though Prescott has had better teams.
 

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If this dysfunctional organization couldn’t build a good enough team around Romo why do we believe they will around Dak?

In answer to your question, there isn't that much to surpass if that's the goal. What was Romo, 2-4 in the playoffs? So to surpass the Romo era the Prescott era will have to win what, 3 playoff wins? Not very lofty goals IMO. Passing stats? Who cares. Just win 1 conference championship game or 3 playoff games and Romo's legacy is surpassed. Perspective right
 

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Do you think Dak elevates our teams with horrid defenses and no running game In 2011,2012 and 2013 to week 17 play in games?
As a 3 year pro? Probably not. Young quarterbacks don’t usually elevate teams with bad defenses.
Running QB’s don’t make a living in the NFL.
Dak’s not a running qb so we are good there.


He needs elite talent surrounding him. How would this roster do with an elite QB?
He made the playoffs without elite talent and poor coaching.

Mahomes needs elite talent and coaching.
Wentz needs it.
Goff needs it.
Winston needs it.

Why are we pretending like good young quarterbacks don’t need elite talent other than Dak?

What quarterback left in the playoffs doesn’t have elite talent? Brees? Brady? Mahomes? Goff? Which one?
 

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In answer to your question, there isn't that much to surpass if that's the goal. What was Romo, 2-4 in the playoffs? So to surpass the Romo era the Prescott era will have to win what, 3 playoff wins? Not very lofty goals IMO. Passing stats? Who cares. Just win 1 conference championship game or 3 playoff games and Romo's legacy is surpassed. Perspective right
That’s what I’m confused about. It’s not like the bar is exactly high. He’s already essentially did what Romo has in 3 years.
 

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As a 3 year pro? Probably not. Young quarterbacks don’t usually elevate teams with bad defenses.

Dak’s not a running qb so we are good there.



He made the playoffs without elite talent and poor coaching.

Mahomes needs elite talent and coaching.
Wentz needs it.
Goff needs it.
Winston needs it.

Why are we pretending like good young quarterbacks don’t need elite talent other than Dak?

What quarterback left in the playoffs doesn’t have elite talent? Brees? Brady? Mahomes? Goff? Which one?
The comparisons here is Romo and Dak. Romo didn’t need an All Pro ol, league leading running back and top 10 defense to make playoffs.

Let’s see . I’d rather have a qb who needs all of this surrounding support or one who elevated those around him? Why are we so attached to Dak?
 

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If this dysfunctional organization couldn’t build a good enough team around Romo why do we believe they will around Dak?

The Romo bar is incredibly low. 6 playoff starts and 2 wins for his whole career. Dak is half way there already so yes if you measure by playoff games. Super Bowls? As long as Jason Garrett is the coach there is no way this team will be beat a good team in the playoffs. Not going to happen. The way the Rams out coached the Cowboys was so obvious. When is Dallas ever going to have a "road" playoff game like that again? Half the stadium were Cowboys fans. The Cowboys were coming in hot, yet McVey and his coaches completely unraveled the Cowboys and embarrassed them.

Dak will play in more playoff games but he will never win a Super Bowl or likely not get the chance with Garrett at the helm.
 

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That’s what I’m confused about. It’s not like the bar is exactly high. He’s already essentially did what Romo has in 3 years.
Yes, but will he surpass that. And if not why are we so attached to a below average QB?
 

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The Romo bar is incredibly low. 6 playoff starts and 2 wins for his whole career. Dak is half way there already so yes if you measure by playoff games. Super Bowls? As long as Jason Garrett is the coach there is no way this team will be beat a good team in the playoffs. Not going to happen. The way the Rams out coached the Cowboys was so obvious. When is Dallas ever going to have a "road" playoff game like that again? Half the stadium were Cowboys fans. The Cowboys were coming in hot, yet McVey and his coaches completely unraveled the Cowboys and embarrassed them.

Dak will play in more playoff games but he will never win a Super Bowl or likely not get the chance with Garrett at the helm.
So, you saw this Cowboy team as Final 4 less a greater HC?
 

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If this dysfunctional organization couldn’t build a good enough team around Romo why do we believe they will around Dak?

Dak has gotten us to the divisional round which is the furthest Romo has taken us. Considering that Dak is young and will eventually get a new offensive system to play in, chances are he’ll move the chains further.
 

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Elite QBs like Rodgers and Brees who only have one SB? Having an elite QB means nothing except you’ll likely be able to score more points. I’d rather have a decent QB and have an elite D.
It always takes more than one player so that tired SB argument doesn't fly. When elite qbs have teams like you mentioned they usually make the most of them like Bree's now and Rodgers that year he had a D worth a dang. I can't ding Dak too much but I do think a more accurate qb misses less of the throws he has a problem with and that could help some.
 

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Elite QBs like Rodgers and Brees who only have one SB? Having an elite QB means nothing except you’ll likely be able to score more points. I’d rather have a decent QB and have an elite D.
Of course your not counting their passing marks and other playoff success .

The point is those qb weren’t a liability. It’s like saying Witen and Ware weren’t holding us back.
 

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Romo started with much better coaching in Parcels. Dak is stuck with JG. They haven’t had a losing season yet but the coaching must improve if they want to get over the hump.

What did Parcells win with Romo?....lol
 

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Dak has gotten us to the divisional round which is the furthest Romo has taken us. Considering that Dak is young and will eventually get a new offensive system to play in, chances are he’ll move the chains further.
We’ll see. That’s what I’m asking here. If not why are so attached?
 

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I don't understand Dak. He's great in games like when he played Jacksonville, Giants (week 17), Eagles (Especially in Week 14), and Commanders in Week 12. Heck, I'll even consider the Wildcard Seahawks game a good one. Then he has games like The Colts game, and the Week 3 Seahawks game, Saints game, and the Bucs game. I just don't understand how he is so inconsistent. He shows out, shines, and makes decisions like a Top 10 QB does, and other times, he acts like the 22nd in the league QB he is. I just don't get it.
 

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I don't understand Dak. He's great in games like when he played Jacksonville, Giants (week 17), Eagles (Especially in Week 14), and Commanders in Week 12. Heck, I'll even consider the Wildcard Seahawks game a good one. Then he has games like The Colts game, and the Week 3 Seahawks game, Saints game, and the Bucs game. I just don't understand how he is so inconsistent. He shows out, shines, and makes decisions like a Top 10 QB does, and other times, he acts like the 22nd in the league QB he is. I just don't get it.
That what happens when you're an overall avg player smh. Don't know how y'all surprised an avg player has an overall 50/50 good and bad style about him.
 

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There will be more total playoff wins but they will come in singles every few years. I don’t envision any deep playoff runs with Dak and Garrett. There will always be better QBs and smarter coaches to block their path.
 
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