And that is why Goff was the 1 pick of the whole draft

[Rockport]

Dak wins games in the 4th quarter like the sun comes up.

 

[superonyx]

As I stated, it's irrelevant to the discussion. You're attempting to dodge your odd claim he's a bus driver.

Whether I find McVay or Goff more valuable means nothing - again, they can both be great. Here is a better answer for you: If McVay rids of Goff, he would have a tough time replacing him with a better QB. Thus, that offense wouldn't be nearly as effective as it was this year. He would still be a great coach, same as Goff would still be great elsewhere because they are both extremely talented at what they do.

It's the same as Reid isn't reliant on Mahomes and Mahomes isn't reliant on Reid. However, together, they put together a brilliant offense.

It’s very relevant and shows how weak your position is because you continue to avoid answers that make you uncomfortable.

It’s says more than answering would say.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Hey....should i start a thread about Mahomes about to be shutout in the first half?

Naw dude, according to the QB whisperers in here only Dak Prescott has bad first half's in a football game.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Feel free to ask people yourself.
Goff with Linehan and Garrett or Dak with McVey?

Oh...are we pretending coaching doesn’t matter now?

Coaching always matters but a Player needs to have the god given talent in order for the coaching to spawn results.....or else a team might want the assistance of a Dr. Frankenstein or some other source of science I guess.....

 

[tyke1doe]

please, that happens every game? Guy literally plows into the receiver right at 1:45 left in the game is a clear PI call and nothing. The right call there would have ended the Rams. So please, give the "Goof played a great game" schtick a rest.

First, bad plays happen every game.
Second, I didn't say Goff had a great game. I said he won.
That's the same thing Daksters say of him, despite inaccurate throws, holding on the ball too long and taking unnecessary sacks.

 

[tyke1doe]

Dak wins games in the 4th quarter like the sun comes up.

Didn't the sun come up on the Rams stadium?

 

[jwitten82]

Dak wins games in the 4th quarter like the sun comes up.

So does Goff

 

[Rockport]

So does Goff

Not like Dak does on a consistent basis. I get you hate the Cowboys. No need to prove it with every post you make.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

First, bad plays happen every game.
Second, I didn't say Goff had a great game. I said he won.
That's the same thing Daksters say of him, despite inaccurate throws, holding on the ball too long and taking unnecessary sacks.

Literally plowing into the guy with a helmet to helmet hit is a bad play? sure Goff was on the winning team, a win that the officials literally handed you. I got no problem if the Rams straight up beat the Saints, they didn't, the officials did that,

 

[tyke1doe]

Literally plowing into the guy with a helmet to helmet hit is a bad play? sure Goff was on the winning team, a win that the officials literally handed you. I got no problem if the Rams straight up beat the Saints, they didn't, the officials did that,

No one play decides a game. The Saints could have scored earlier or scored touchdowns rather than settle for field goals.
That play was big, but the Saints let themselves get in that situation.
Bad plays happen. They could have stopped the Rams from tying the game, but they didn't.
And the Rams won. And Goff is now in the Super Bowl.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

No one play decides a game. The Saints could have scored earlier or scored touchdowns rather than settle for field goals.
That play was big, but the Saints let themselves get in that situation.
Bad plays happen. They could have stopped the Rams from tying the game, but they didn't.
And the Rams won. And Goff is now in the Super Bowl.

Goof won, more like Goof was handed the win. Look at Sean McVay screaming yea we're going to the super bowl all the while knowing that he owes the officials a massive thank you for f-ing the Saints over.

 

[superonyx]

Coaching always matters but a Player needs to have the god given talent in order for the coaching to spawn results.....or else a team might want the assistance of a Dr. Frankenstein or some other source of science I guess.....

So answer my question.

Do you take Goff with Linehan/Garrett or McVey with Dak?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

So answer my question.

Do you take Goff with Linehan/Garrett or McVey with Dak?

I believe in the end the "Players"..... play the game....Give me Goff all day with anyone vrs Dak and any head coach you want....

 

[superonyx]

I believe in the end the "Players"..... play the game....Give me Goff all day with anyone vrs Dak and any head coach you want....

Players do play the game but unless you believe Goff to be a generational talent...He isn’t....then you go with the coach all day.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

I believe in the end the "Players"..... play the game....Give me Goff all day with anyone vrs Dak and any head coach you want....

So please explain Goff's first couple of years. Go ahead.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

When Dak wins, it's because he's clutch.
When Goff wins, it's because he has a great team, he got help from the refs, his defense helped him, etc.

nothing clutch about going to a superbowl

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Dak wins games in the 4th quarter like the sun comes up.

that used to be true of Romo too, but people labeled him as a choker

 

[jwitten82]

So please explain Goff's first couple of years. Go ahead.

He has only been in the league 3 seasons, only started 7 games as a rookie. His second season he went 11-5 and threw 28 tds with 7 ints and this season he went 13-3 and threw for 32 tds and 12 ints. Whats there to explain?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

So please explain Goff's first couple of years. Go ahead.

Goff has grown the last years has Dak?
I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

So answer my question.

Do you take Goff with Linehan/Garrett or McVey with Dak?

Honestly that would depend on when you would ask me that question and what version of the player I'm getting. This is assuming the teams stay the same. If it is 2016, with the 2016 Dak and Goff I'd take Dak. If it is the 2018 Dak and Goff, I'd take Goff, because I want a QB that is accurate downfield. I take passing ability over running ability any day for a quarterback. Now if it is all about if I think if Goff would develop the same under Garrett and Linehan vs as he did with McVey, or if Dak would've developed the same way under McVey. Well that is a whole bunch of unknowns.