Don't expect a discount from Dak Prescott

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Here's the flaw in your logic. In 2016 the Cowboys had the best O-line in the game but in 2017 and 2018 it wasn't that same line but only 40% of that line. The O-line play deteriorated greatly the past couple of years and those that are so quick to toss Prescott under the bus just don't see that or get that. Does Prescott have things to work on, you bet ya, but he's no where near as bad as some want to paint him.
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You don't think paying Dak $30 million a year will lower the talent around him? Like many I wouldn't mind paying him $20 million a year, but as this thread suggests "Don't expect a discount" Sure the packers will probably have a greater loss of talent for their price tag, but then again it is also an elite quarterback. Only to a Dak Homer, Dak has already proven himself to be elite and not average. To someone more open minded, there are still questions, worries, about Dak that he might just be average instead of elite. So if he is just average and you pay him $30 million a year, won't that be a mistake, since not only is your quarterback average, you team become more average in other positions as well because you overpaid the quarterback?

 

[Sevenup3000]

Not true Sevenup

• Newton's 5 year, 104 million (2 mil ave) deal way back in 2015 was one the very highest in the league at the time
• Wilson landed a 4 year, 87.5 mil, (21.75 ave) contract with an almost unprecedented 31 mil signing bonus back in 2015. Some now say he may become the 1st 35 mil/yr player.
• Kaepernick got what was reported to be one of the largest contracts ever, but it required him to stay on the team. His whole situation was unique and hard to compare to others.

I think Dak will get his. But based on his current ranking, it might be middle of the pack NFL starter 2019 money range...so 20 mil/yr or so.

Luck signed a 122 million dollar contract...an average of 24+ million a year...Matt Stafford signed a 135 million dollar contract 27+ million a year...

Yeah, Newton and Wilson gave Panthers and Seahawks a break. Kaepernick unquestionably gave the 49ers a break. Newton, Wilson, and Kaepernick should have gotten what Luck and Stafford (amongst others like Ryan and Carr got) but they took less. Especially Kaepernick. I can go find news reports arguing Colin should have fired his Agent for a deal that was so objectively bad for him.

EDIT: Cam Newton signed his extension and as of 2018 was ranked 14th in average salary...Luck signed his contract just ONE year later and is STILL 6th. Either Luck is overpaid (he is) or Newton is underpaid (he is).

 

[RoyTheHammer]

This past season:

Kirk Cousins: 70% completion percentage. 4298 yards. 30 TD. 10 Int. 7.1 yards per attempt. 99.7 QB rating.

Dak Prescott: 67.7% completion. 3885 yards 22 TD and 8 Int. 7.4 yards per attempt. 96.9 QB rating.

Add in Dak’s 305 rushing yards and 6 TD’s. Kirk only having 124 yards running and 1 TD.

Then add in the fact that Kirk was on a team just as good as Dak and DEFINITELY had better receivers the first half of the season.

We won’t even get into the fact that Kirk is a known choker. His team made the NFC championship game the year prior. Then he gets signed and they miss the playoffs.

Add that all up and Dak is at least as good as Kirk.

Now go look at the contract Kirk got.


Thanks for playing.

This is logic to you?

Yikes.

Yeah Kirk was definitely the reason they missed the playoffs this year..

 

[GoJacks]

Then let him go.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

I apologize for speaking the truth.

Hes a whack QB. Average at best. If he gets over 20-23 mil a year, I just dont know what Im gonna do with the next 5 years of my life.

 

[Mobinvans]

Let him walk, hes terrible anyway

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Luck signed a 122 million dollar contract...an average of 24+ million a year...Matt Stafford signed a 135 million dollar contract 27+ million a year...

Yeah, Newton and Wilson gave Panthers and Seahawks a break. Kaepernick unquestionably gave the 49ers a break. Newton, Wilson, and Kaepernick should have gotten what Luck and Stafford (amongst others like Ryan and Carr got) but they took less. Especially Kaepernick. I can go find news reports arguing Colin should have fired his Agent for a deal that was so objectively bad for him.

EDIT: Cam Newton signed his extension and as of 2018 was ranked 14th in average salary...Luck signed his contract just ONE year later and is STILL 6th. Either Luck is overpaid (he is) or Newton is underpaid (he is).

How do you know?

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Hes a whack QB. Average at best. If he gets over 20-23 mil a year, I just dont know what Im gonna do with the next 5 years of my life.

LOL....maybe 31 other teams can help you

 

[basel90]

anything more than 12-13 mil , cowboys should let him go and sign a QB

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

LOL....maybe 31 other teams can help you

Oh because I dont like 1 player I should leave my fanhood at the door?

Is this the Dallas Prescotts? Also did you feel this way during the Post-Aikman/Pre-Romo years? Didnt like Ryan Leaf, should have walked away then too?

 

[Hadenough]

IF WE LET DAK test the market...we lose. He wont come back. He will sign with the Skins or Jags...a team like that. HE IS GETTING HIS MONEY,PERIOD. Best thing to do is to pay the man.Good QB's are just too hard to find.

Dont kid yourself! Dak can be replaced easier than you think. There are plenty of QBs that could do what he does with all the talent Dallas has on this roster. The problem is you dont want Dak 2.0. Dallas needs to find a way to get their hands on the #1 pick in 2020 so they can take Trevor Lawrence. That kid would give Dallas 5 years on a rookie contract and has all the tools to become one of the best QBs in the NFL.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Dont kid yourself! Dak can be replaced easier than you think. There are plenty of QBs that could do what he does with all the talent Dallas has on this roster. The problem is you dont want Dak 2.0. Dallas needs to find a way to get their hands on the #1 pick in 2020 so they can take Trevor Lawrence. That kid would give Dallas 5 years on a rookie contract and has all the tools to become one of the best QBs in the NFL.

Yep, we should let Dak go and hire this dude to find out next QB. Apparently they are found all over the place.

 

[Hadenough]

Luck signed a 122 million dollar contract...an average of 24+ million a year...Matt Stafford signed a 135 million dollar contract 27+ million a year.

You put Andrew Luck on the Cowboys and they are winning the SB. You put Stafford on the Cowboys and they are getting to the NFC championship game. You put Dak on the Colts or the Lions and they are 4-12 or 5-11.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

I love how this is all just a one way street. I didn't know dak was a ***** sold to the highest bidder.

What a ridiculous and totally in appropriate comment. Every player in the league sells his services to his team. It's a business. Your comparing that to prostitution is absurd intellectual dishonesty. I've been discussing what his value is to the team and whether it's in the team's best interests to resign him. That's a totally fair discussion. There are not unlimited funds available to sign any player. My contention is that Dak should be offered a deal commensurate with his value as an average to slightly above average quarterback. You're not obligated to agree with that. If you think the team should offer him an elite contract, you should explain why and back up your ideas with reasoned ideas. Ridiculous comparisons to the illegal field of prostitution just make you look foolish.

A lot of teams have made the mistake of overpaying for players. I want the Cowboys to avoid doing that. They actually did avoid that when Demarco Murray got offered more than he was worth from another team. Letting him walk ended up being a smart move for the Cowboys and a bad move by the Eagles who signed him. Are you going to argue that Dak actually is an elite quarterback? Or just make a bombastic comparison to prostitution?

 

[Hadenough]

Yep, we should let Dak go and hire this dude to find out next QB. Apparently they are found all over the place.

Im not saying you have to replace Dak. Im saying if you want to win a SB then you need to replace him with a true franchise QB.

 

[Hadenough]

My contention is that Dak should be offered a deal commensurate with his value as an average to slightly above average quarterback.

I would say average! and that is saying a lot because the team around him elevates him to that.

 

[HungryLion]

This is logic to you?

Yikes.

Yeah Kirk was definitely the reason they missed the playoffs this year..

I have yet to see you employ any logic or provide any evidence to back up your thoughts. All you’ve provided is “lol” and a eye roll. Not exactly a strong logical argument.

But yes, it is logic to me.

The Vikings go out and sign a QB who is supposed to be very very good, spend a ton of money to get him and the team gets worse.

So if Kirk Cousins is so good, why did the overall team get worse when signing him?

If he was so much clearly better than Dak, then he should be able to make the team around him better right? I mean that’s the knock on Dak. That he doesn’t make anyone better and that the team carries him. So, it Kirk is that much better than Dak, then he should be able to mask some other team deficiencies.......

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Im not saying you have to replace Dak. Im saying if you want to win a SB then you need to replace him with a true franchise QB.

right and we all know the overabundance of those guys. Why every team not named the Dallas Cowboys has one

 

[HungryLion]

Dont kid yourself! Dak can be replaced easier than you think. There are plenty of QBs that could do what he does with all the talent Dallas has on this roster. The problem is you dont want Dak 2.0. Dallas needs to find a way to get their hands on the #1 pick in 2020 so they can take Trevor Lawrence. That kid would give Dallas 5 years on a rookie contract and has all the tools to become one of the best QBs in the NFL.

So you want the team to tank this upcoming season? Because that’s the only way they get the #1 overall pick.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Dont kid yourself! Dak can be replaced easier than you think. There are plenty of QBs that could do what he does with all the talent Dallas has on this roster. The problem is you dont want Dak 2.0. Dallas needs to find a way to get their hands on the #1 pick in 2020 so they can take Trevor Lawrence. That kid would give Dallas 5 years on a rookie contract and has all the tools to become one of the best QBs in the NFL.

The weird thing is, that many in the Dak crowd, seem to want to pay Dak now instead of having him prove himself in 2019 first. It really sometimes feels like some people are Dak first, Cowboys second.