Opinion: Dak will Make Over 25M

Swagger

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I would personally play him out the last year then let him walk.

It's cut throat and rough but that's what Bill Bellichick would do and...the Patriots win Superbowls. They don't over pay and they win.

We have had exceptional value from Prescott thanks to his rookie deal.

The reality it that we should use his cheap salary this season and stack the team with talent to try and win the Superbowl.

Then whatever happens it's fine because we wouldn't have $30 million tied down to Prescott the following season - we could surely draft a pretty decent QB in the first round in 2020. We would only need a game manager like Prescott.

Once we get tied down to a long term deal for Prescott then it's the beginning of the end. Not even Aaron Rodgers has been able to reach a Superbowl when earning top dollar as the overall roster is too weak.

This isn't a pro or anti Prescott comment as I would state the same about letting anyone walk end of next season unless he was a genuine game changer like a Rodgers or Brees and even then there would be an argument to just start again with a QB in the draft on a rookie contract.
 

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Ultimately it's about winning superbowls not liking certain players.
 

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Somehow, some way, here's hoping Dak makes jaw-dropping progress, transitioning into a QB actually worthy of his new contract. :omg:
 

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That is the beauty of the FT ......you get to decide on Year 3 in 2021........ no guarantees

If Dak wants guarantees then he has to take less than 20m a year
No he doesn't. He's going to get a monster deal.
 

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its like some fans in here don't pay attention to football asides from what's on the field on Sundays.

Case friggin Keenum got 18m AAV on a 2 year deal and he's terrible. Derek Carr is getting 24 or 25 million a year and he's just OK, kind of like Dak. Dak is going to get AT LEAST that much. Im guessing 24-28m AAV. And so would the rest of you if you actually paid attention to what players were getting paid.
 

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Again, you're lumping Dak in with quarterbacks much better, more talented, or won championships. Those quarterbacks command those dollars, Dak doesn't. At the time of their signings the market was quarterback needy, it isn't now. I would have no problem paying Wilson elite money because I think he's a really good QB and would get that somewhere else. I don't believe Dak would get anywhere close to elite money offers from the 3-4 teams looking for QBs right now. He's maybe good enough to be Seattle's backup. And they don't get paid 28M a year.
I didn't lump him in with any QB. I compared him to Wilson when Wilson signed his last contract in 2015. Wilson now, would get 30m+. His contract he signed in 2015 would be worth 28m with today's cap. You're talking Wilson now, not when he signed his current deal. He had won a chip but the chip was looked at as the defense and running game, not him. You know, kind of like everyone on the cowboys gets credit for any success the cowboys have and has nothing to with our QB.

Again the market for elite QBs is set at 30m+. It changes as the qbs sign new deals and the cap goes up. 8 years ago it was 20m. 8 years from now it will be 40m+. Just how it works. If Wilson, Ben, mahomes, luck, rivers , Stafford, cam, and even Goff, signed a new contract today they would all get 30m+. 28m then would make Dak the 11th highest paid QB with 28m which right now is Wilson at 21.9m. If in imaginary world , all qbs were up for a contract the same year, no one would even think twice about 28m because at least 10 would get 30m+. But since it doesn't work that way, qbs that don't match others get what what they do and people freak out about without taking into consideration what the cap is now, what the % of the qb is taking up, when the others signed their deal, what the % was at the time of the signing, what the cap was at the time of thier signing.

Personally, I'm a dak fan but don't think hes elite and shouldn't get 30m. I think he's in the Alex Smith area and that would put him at 25m which is what think he should get. I won't freak out at 28m and will understand that he's also younger and that's a factor.
 

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Key word in this novel is ELITE, Wilson if not elite he is still better than Dak and is a top 6 QB. This team is off there marbles paying him $28M or more.
Yes, he is better than Dak and would get 30m+. He's top 6 and not elite? Who's the 5 above him?
 

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Yes, he is better than Dak and would get 30m+. He's top 6 and not elite? Who's the 5 above him?

aaaaaaaaaand there's the thread derail.

Who cares if someone thinks Russ is elite or not elite? He conceded he's in the top 6 of QBs.
 

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aaaaaaaaaand there's the thread derail.

Who cares if someone thinks Russ is elite or not elite? He conceded he's in the top 6 of QBs.
Yes , and I conceded he's better than Dak. What's your point? We can debate elite and all our definitions will be different. I'm just curious who the 5 are and what their contracts are
 

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Didn't read the whole thread, but the OP is exactly right. When has Jerry ever not paid up for someone he drafted? Maybe Tyron Smith is an exception, but the rule is that Jerry loves paying top dollar for players he drafted. It makes him feel like a great football man to have found someone worthy of such a huge contract. And that probably goes double for Dak, a fourth round QB who can keep his team relevant for years.
 

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I would personally play him out the last year then let him walk.

It's cut throat and rough but that's what Bill Bellichick would do and...the Patriots win Superbowls. They don't over pay and they win.

We have had exceptional value from Prescott thanks to his rookie deal.

The reality it that we should use his cheap salary this season and stack the team with talent to try and win the Superbowl.

Then whatever happens it's fine because we wouldn't have $30 million tied down to Prescott the following season - we could surely draft a pretty decent QB in the first round in 2020. We would only need a game manager like Prescott.

Once we get tied down to a long term deal for Prescott then it's the beginning of the end. Not even Aaron Rodgers has been able to reach a Superbowl when earning top dollar as the overall roster is too weak.

This isn't a pro or anti Prescott comment as I would state the same about letting anyone walk end of next season unless he was a genuine game changer like a Rodgers or Brees and even then there would be an argument to just start again with a QB in the draft on a rookie contract.
You hit on a couple very good points! Dak has been a great value on his rookie salary. Drafting another QB might be the way to go by at least keeping a very strong team together.
 

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My hope is they finally extend Dak in the next week or two, so we can stop the threads of will they or won't they. Of course then it will be whether it was a good deal or not or deserving or not, etc.
 

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Yes, he is better than Dak and would get 30m+. He's top 6 and not elite? Who's the 5 above him?

Brady, Rodgers, Brees for 3 but after those 3 you can take the next group of Ben, SD QB, Wilson, Pat M. and it just depends on who you like but Wilson is a top 6 QB without a doubt in my book.
 

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From what I can see materializing, the next two years of player contract extensions are either going to maintain the steady course of inconsistency or sink the team to the purgatory of the Campo years.
 
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