David Irving says goodbye for good to NFL **merged**

[Nightman]

These players use pot to manage pain. I see nothing wrong with that. And since the entire country is moving toward legalizing pot, will the league thenresinstate these players they banner because it is an acceptable form of recreation?

This has nothing to do with Irving, per se for me. It has to do with the reality of a game that is still savage in its contact, and these guys either using something truly innocuous such as pot versus Oxy.

I think the NFL stands for Not Foresighted for Long.

They use pot to get high.... don't kid yourself.... stuff doesn't hurt when you are high **

 

[Sydla]

When drugs are given to you by your work there’s a serious problem. I want the guy on the field but I respect his decision. When the NFL finally stops testing for weed, it’ll be because of guys speaking up about the dangers of the opioids given to them by the league. Irving will be a big part of that debate, he saw something wrong and acted on it. Much respect.

Much respect?

You guys do realize that the NFL isn't an option for him right now, right? Why should he get respect for walking away from a league he can't participate in right now and likely would never be able to participate in again for a very long time?

 

[Nightman]

Wasn't sure what kind of "bottle" u meant, bottle of pills or booze. And yes i believe its different because being drunk heavily impairs functioning on every level whereas marijuana does not. Also no one is saying players should be getting high before games, but if they do, its on them, and if the team finds out, they should be allowed to deal with it whatever way they choose.

You are joking about not being impaired by weed.... that is simply a lie

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Wasn't sure what kind of "bottle" u meant, bottle of pills or booze. And yes i believe its different because being drunk heavily impairs functioning on every level whereas marijuana does not. Also no one is saying players should be getting high before games, but if they do, its on them, and if the team finds out, they should be allowed to deal with it whatever way they choose.

I am sure you believe it's different but a person can argue, with some validity, that career drinkers build a tolerance to Alcohol and so it doesn't effect them as it would somebody who isn't a drinker. I also do not agree with your statement about weed not impairing a person. Recent studies absolutely show that this is not the case.

Because teams are part of the league as a whole, the entire "teams should be allowed to deal with it whatever way they choose" thing doesn't apply. Yes, the team can sanction but they are ultimately governed by the league who, in turn, is mandated by the CBA. There are rules that are not up for negotiation in play. The real bottom line is that this is a business. If the business suffers, then the money stops flowing. If that happens, all the feel good, need weed, cooping stories come to an end. Every player needs to understand that. If they don't, then they will suffer a similar fate as Irving. It is what it is.

 

[Maverick84]

There is a big difference between weed and Crystal meth if you don't understand that I can't help you. There's also the fact that my kids were right next to her while she was doing a drug that can kill you then went absolutely insane when she realized I had walked in and saw what she was doing. She was not sane could not be talked to or reasoned with she was a potential threat to herself the children and me at that point.

Weed you can smoke and remain fully functional. People do it everyday and have successful careers and family lives. Two very different substances.

you don't have to defend yourself for that one, you did the right thing man. from one dad to another.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Well, there's no Coors, or Michelob, or Budweiser of Mary Jane yet. When that happens, I'm sure the NFL will oblige and allow weed.

 

[Tussinman]

Good riddance. He basically quit on the team last year and refuse to show up to a facility to get treatment even in weeks 12 and 13 when the Cowboys were projecting upwards. I love how he's whining about weed but hasn't two of his suspensions been performance-enhancing drugs? He's now whining that it's not a motivation issue or a steroid issue it's the man keeping him down because he can't smoke a blunt, it sure has nothing to do with his commitment .....

 

[iceberg]

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-co...ing-quits-NFL-unofficially-retires-129834281/

well, bye.

 

[ICP]

Good riddence

 

[tm1119]

I feel like David Irving is blowing his own points out of proportion though. NFL players routinely have painful surgeries to repair damage to ligaments, bones, and other things. It's no different than you or me having to undergo an invasive surgery and being prescribed medication in the meantime.

It looks to me, as an outsider of the organization, is that Irving is just making excuses for himself.

I think it’s the broader point that somehow in America opioids are acceptable, but marijuana still mostly isn’t. If a doctor prescribes you an opioid pain killer and you say no thanks and go home and smoke pot instead you’re deemed a criminal and a bad person...I hope most would agree that, in general, that’s pretty ridiculous.

But again, I’m not making excuses for Irving. To take this stance now before his career ever really even got off the ground is dumb in my opinion.

 

[glimmerman]

I have no problem with someone using weed as a form of pain reliever. For some it works, for me it don’t.

Most on these boards are older as I am and I am sure a lot smoked at some point. This stuff now is all good stuff and as strong as you want, not like the old days of brown weed.

In my state it’s being passed to be able to smoke it with a medical card. First was vap and edibles. But they are being allowed to get 2 1/2 ounces of this stuff a month. Talk about over prescribing. If you smoke that much then no way you aren’t stoned 24/7. And the word stoned means high. It’s a altered sense. Not exactly like alcohol but on the same lines. Granted I would rather be on the road with someone that smoked as apposed to someone that just drank a 12 pack. They are having a hard time regulating it.

There are people that are taking pain medication that are on long term pain management and don’t have a problem. There is a smaller percentage that does get addicted. Some that are addicted aren’t prescribed the drugs. Some go on to stronger things and have a hard time with it. All those recovering I feel for you and know it’s a day by day thing.

All this is gonna get messy. Wait till you start having weed related deaths. Fatal car wrecks and weed is found in there system. Cancers that medicine will find a way to pin on weed. It’s a big circle of crap.

There’s a place for all of it and people have to be responsible for themselves. If he wants to persue smoking weed and not making millions then go for it. But when your broke then don’t ride the system and have my tax payers dollars helping you eat and pay your bills.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

I personally think that the league should end its ban on pot use by players. However, when Irving has a job that pays great and requires him to not use pot, he's really stupid IMO to use it. Can you imagine if you made millions, but your employer asked you not to use pot? I would comply! You could always wait till your playing days were over and then use it.

 

[glimmerman]

I personally think that the league should end its ban on pot use by players. However, when Irving has a job that pays great and requires him to not use pot, he's really stupid IMO to use it. Can you imagine if you made millions, but your employer asked you not to use pot? I would comply! You could always wait till your playing days were over and then use it.

Making millions!!! I think my crusade on weed smoking would start in about 3 years. He got paid 2.2 million last year. He could have stayed clean and made about 5 this year and maybe franchise tagged or got a one year contract for about 10 million (on the low side) in his third year. That’s about 17 million dollars. I could retire you and me both on that.

 

[MadDog_78749]

but your employer asked you not to use pot? I would comply! You could always wait till your playing days were over and then use it.

I complied for friggin 40K a year.
Smoking dope was fun, but the ability to build generational wealth is truly a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Irving actions are simply inexplicable, he seems unable to make rational decisions.
But this is nothing new, he's made critical errors throughout his football career

 

[Verdict]

His choice. Don't agree with what he's doing but respect his choice.

It's not an intelligent choice. It's his excuse for being a ******.

 

[Verdict]

There will be a thread tomorrow saying we still need him...lol.

You know it! Along with the descriptive term "beast".

 

[TwoDeep3]

Why?

Because marijuana is not the same as alcohol. You can smoke pot all day, and still have a functionality you would not by drinking alcohol all day.

I've seen people take a nap after a long period of getting high. But never seen anyone pass out like alcohol does.

I also have never heard of a college kid smoking so much pot he died of pot poisoning. But you do see those cases in the new periodically with kids dying from alcohol poisoning.

They are two completely different things.

 

[TwoDeep3]

It does seem weird that pot is heading toward being universally legal yet players are suspended for it.

But really...it's plain and simple...those are the rules.
period.

It is completely irrelevant how we feel about the rules. Completely irrelevant.

He is choosing pot over football.
His choice

Not arguing that at all. His choice. Just seems the league is always two steps behind issues, then over reacts.

I submit Ray Rice, Zeke Elliott as the example.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I personally think that the league should end its ban on pot use by players. However, when Irving has a job that pays great and requires him to not use pot, he's really stupid IMO to use it. Can you imagine if you made millions, but your employer asked you not to use pot? I would comply! You could always wait till your playing days were over and then use it.

Honestly, it doesn't even really require you to not smoke weed. I mean, they give you every out. They test you once every year, at the beginning, they tell you when it is and if you test clean, they don't test you again. How much easier can the League make it on players? People act like the League is out to get the players on this issue. That's just a lie. The League realizes that players are smoking weed. They set it up so that the dumbest of the dumb can beat it and yet, here sits David Irving smoking his future away on Instagram.

 

[TheCount]