Speculation: Dak Deal To Be Finalized By End Of Next Week

[Jake]

Cowboys rule, haters drool.

Have another beer, Rockport.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

Here is the Dak Fanboy Logic:
1) Dak isn't to blame for such and such loss because the talent around him was average: Offensive Line, Recievers.
2) Dak deserves to get payed 27-32 million, which will make the talent around him average, or more average than it was last year.

This is why I keep scratching my head.

"Dak needs a true #1 WR!"
"Dak needs a good TE!"
"Dak needs a healthy O-line!"
"The defense let Dak down!"

"Let's pay Dak 30 mill per and watch him play with scrubs due to limited cap space. He got this!"

 

[America's Cowboy]

that's the thing. Have we identified our man? And I'm not talking about Jerrah being a homer, but do they know that Dak is a franchise QB? If they are wrong, it just shows how opposite from the patriots we are in being a well run organization.

Nah, just your feelings hurt once again. Jerry and Stephen know Dak is their franchise QB.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Lmao that's not the one I was thinking of. Even then, that's one QB you can name that won without talent around him although he had arguably the best defense ever.

Which futher proves my point, no matter the QB, they ALL need help. People act like there have been qbs who carried their team on their own to the super bowl. Just isn't true. Brady might be the closest .

you are arguing it both ways. On one hand you are saying the quarterback needs talent. On the other hand you are saying that the quarterback should get pay so much that you can't surround him with talent.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

Lmao that's not the one I was thinking of. Even then, that's one QB you can name that won without talent around him although he had arguably the best defense ever.

Which futher proves my point, no matter the QB, they ALL need help. People act like there have been qbs who carried their team on their own to the super bowl. Just isn't true. Brady might be the closest .

Not sure why you're in a debate with me. I'm trying to make the same point as you. They all need help which is why it would be foolish to pay Dak that much money and watch everyone else walk away for bigger paydays. Not sure where you're coming from, Bro.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Again, in your opinion, what will he have to do to show you he's the real McCoy?

I already said, in my opinion, if he does well next season against the likes like the Patriots and other great teams, that will go a long way in showing how good he is. I mean obviously the strength of schedule should be much harder next year than it was this year. If the Patriots game plan against Dak like the Rams did that would be disturbing, but not surprising. Also note, I have not said that Dak is horrible, I call him slightly above average. There are a lot of things I like about him. 2018 schedule looked hard to begin with, but then as often happens, it didn't reflect the realities of the season and was an easier schedule than it first appeared. That is less likely to happen in 2019 because the cowboys made the playoffs.

 

[RamziD]

This is why I keep scratching my head.

"Dak needs a true #1 WR!"
"Dak needs a good TE!"
"Dak needs a healthy O-line!"
"The defense let Dak down!"

"Let's pay Dak 30 mill per and watch him play with scrubs due to limited cap space. He got this!"

So, who of significance are we cutting from our team? We’ll give Dak his contract and still have money to go after a tier 1 guy like ET, plus the draft. We aren’t getting rid of good players and replacing them with scrubs.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

This is why I keep scratching my head.

"Dak needs a true #1 WR!"
"Dak needs a good TE!"
"Dak needs a healthy O-line!"
"The defense let Dak down!"

"Let's pay Dak 30 mill per and watch him play with scrubs due to limited cap space. He got this!"

yup, and its like some people are squeeeing with glee that Dak gets overpaid? Are they really cowboys fans or Dak fans? The funny thing was I was accused of being a troll by someone else for even suggesting that anyone on this board was suggest 27-32 million. He said nobody was saying those numbers, and I was like dude you are not reading what some people are saying.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Nah, just your feelings hurt once again. Jerry and Stephen know Dak is their franchise QB.

The really amusing thing is that you are being smug and feel smart because Jerrah agrees with you.

 

[America's Cowboy]

The really amusing thing is that you are being smug and feel smart because Jerrah agrees with you.

I've been right about them Cowboys moves for the past 20 years now... if you truly want to know. How's that for smugness?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

So, who of significance are we cutting from our team? We’ll give Dak his contract and still have money to go after a tier 1 guy like ET, plus the draft. We aren’t getting rid of good players and replacing them with scrubs.

you haven't been watching all the analysts doubting that we can keep everybody: Dak, Zeke, DLaw, Cooper, Byron Jones. And now you are also saying we should go after ET as well? There been much sports talk about this here in Dallas that, we just can't keep them all. Heck been talk on this board, but you making it sound like it doesn't exist..

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

I've been right about them Cowboys moves for the past 20 years now... if you truly want to know. How's that for smugness?

you mean the cowboys moves that lead to mediocrity? and you proud of this?

 

[America's Cowboy]

you mean the cowboys moves that lead to mediocrity? and you proud of this?

No, I've called out the moves before they happen, which moves they should have done instead and how they would never reach any type of championship game behind certain "leaders".

 

[Kevinicus]

Dak will get close to 30 average. Chiefs have already said that Mahomes will be close to 40 when they extend him in 2020.

I really don't think the Chiefs have said that.

Not even Jerry has said something quite that stupid.

 

[RamziD]

you haven't been watching all the analysts doubting that we can keep everybody: Dak, Zeke, DLaw, Cooper, Byron Jones. And now you are also saying we should go after ET as well? There been much sports talk about this here in Dallas that, we just can't keep them all. Heck been talk on this board, but you making it sound like it doesn't exist..

Ok, tell me when we get rid of DLaw, Cooper, Zeke, and Jones. Maybe Jones in a couple of years, but not the other guys. And Jones would be much easier to replace than Dak. Zeke would, too, for that matter.

 

[Kevinicus]

Because thats the market. Why dont you understand that QBs in this league are going to get paid. And dont act like Dak is a scrub. He's one of the better QBs in the NFL. This league is a league with QBs that couldnt play pre 2005. But thats just the game today. Its evolved to over protecting the QB.

That's not a very good way to approach the market. If other teams do stupid things inflating the price of QBs, that doesn't mean you go along with those stupid things and inflate the price of your QB.

The market says a lamborghini is 6 figures (several times over, if not 7 figures). My money can likely go a lot further if I buy a Honda for much less and use the savings on a bunch of other things. And in this case, Dak is no Lambo.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

No, I've called out the moves before they happen, which moves they should have done instead and how they would never reach any type of championship game behind certain "leaders".

So you're only right when you second guessing the cowboys, but not when you agree with them? Or what are you trying to say?

 

[Little Jr]

you are arguing it both ways. On one hand you are saying the quarterback needs talent. On the other hand you are saying that the quarterback should get pay so much that you can't surround him with talent.

No I'm not and you still can't answer either question. Lol

Qbs need help and I never said pay him so much you can't surround him with talent. Lol I think he deserves 25m a year but will probably get more.

Lest say he gets 30m a year. That won't hurt the team from putting talent around him. Not being rude but learn the cap before you start saying stuff that just isn't true.

People see 30m a year and think that's the actual cap hit, it's not. We can sign Dak, Cooper and keep dalw on the tag or sign him long term this year. Sigining Cooper actually saves us cap and signing Dlaw would too but I don't see that happening.

Let's say we do that and their cap hit next year is actually the same as their avg annual. Dak hit would be 30m, say we gave Cooper 18m and that was hit cap hit next year , we tag dlaw again or he gets 22m a year and that's actually his cap hit. That would be 40m in cap taking up and we still will have 50m in cap space left. Say we decide to take care of Zeke and make him the highest paid rb at 15m a year. Like I said that wouldn't be his cap hit the first year but for this game we'll say it will. Then we pay jaylon and make him the highest paid lb at 13m a year. Won't be his cap hit but we'll say it is. Then we decide to take care of Jones and make him the highest paid cb at 16m a year. Won't be his cap hit but we'll say it will. That would be 44m and still carry 6m in cap space into the season .

All that is huge numbers that probably won't happen and won't actually be their cap hits.But even if it was we could afford that and that's with out any restructures or players getting cut.

Once again , people use the word cap hell way too much . Teams would almost have to try on purpose to get in cap hell.

Once again I'll ask, what qbs have ever won a chip without talent and what does dak need to do next year to show you he's the real McCoy ?

 

[America's Cowboy]

So you're only right when you second guessing the cowboys, but not when you agree with them? Or what are you trying to say?

That I can see the future.

 

[Jake]

Nah, just your feelings hurt once again. Jerry and Stephen know Dak is their franchise QB.

Jerry and Stephen have been on quite a roll the last 23 years, so how can anyone question them?