Sean Lee = Opposite of the modern-day ring brats of the NBA

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_sturt_ said:
http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-cow...ng-with-cowboys-to-chase-after-a-championship

It's so refreshing to see a guy TAKE LESS money and STAY with his team in order to chase a championship.

Eat your heart out Durant... LBJ... Wade... Bosh.

Sean Lee, the anti-ring-brat.
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You don’t know basketball. Lebron took less when he went to Miami. KD also doesn’t have a max contract right now. He’ll get one once he leaves the Warriors. He was chasing rings because he didn’t want to be like Charles Barkley.
 
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Yeah the teams and owners assure success.

For example have you heard of the league that wouldn't exist if there were no players to fill out rosters and take the field? Yes the owners of that league see record profits. The money comes flooding in at such an insane rate that they are left dumbfounded by the success. Why and how are their fans watching 3 hour time slots filled with deafening silence interrupted by far too many commercials breaking up the flow of nothing? I can't wait for halftime so I can catch the highlights from around the league. I heard it's really something to not see. So much unbelievable action it's like something you can't even see is happening right in front of you. Blink and you won't miss it but don't worry the highlights are up after this commercial break.

Yeah that league is doing great.

Players reap as much of the benefit as they can under the cap. Everything else is owner and league money which faaaaaar out paces what the players "reap" from the selfless owners who are only there to stay the course and ensure success. I'm not even going to start in on the owners promoting the players and helping them from the goodness of their achy break hearts.
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There would always be players. If some of the current players didnt want to play, eventually, most would give in and cross the picket lines. An event I keep hoping happens at each collective bargaining stoppage.
 
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Mr_437 said:
1. Sean Lee had to take a pay cut or he would've been released.

2. Sean is a backup.

3. Cowboys not winning a ring.

4. NBA superstar players aren't comparable to NFL players and Lee isn't even in the conversation.
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1. Irrelevant... he still could have played somewhere else, and chased a ring.

2. Irrelevant... he still could have played somewhere else, and chased a ring.

3. Everyone's entitled to their opinion... and/but... also irrelevant... because whatever one thinks about the Cowboys' future, the fact remains there are teams Lee could have actively pursued with a higher probability of reaching the SB, in order to chase a ring.

4. Irrelevant... the comparison made isn't about the impact of the player, but about the ATTITUDE and INTEGRITY of the player.
 
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uvaballa said:
You don’t know basketball. Lebron took less when he went to Miami. KD also doesn’t have a max contract right now. He’ll get one once he leaves the Warriors. He was chasing rings because he didn’t want to be like Charles Barkley.
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I know basketball very, very well. Try me.

Now, in hindsight, I probably shouldn't have mentioned the money part because that seems to distract from the real point. But I think Lee could have made more money somewhere else, and have been promised a starting job... yes, there are teams that fill holes in FA hoping a veteran star player's injury history won't follow him. Happens all the time. Would NE have been one of those? Would LAR have been one of those? Would KC have been one of those? Would NO have been one of those? Maybe.

And/but your last sentence is correct.

And/but Charles Barkley deserves respect that Durant does not. He didn't take the easy way. He didn't manipulate things to make the ring happen for him. And as you imply, there's a legacy benefit to being able to say "I won a ring." But you won your ring by taking a shortcut. And for anyone who cares about integrity, that's a problem.

He is one of the ring brat brotherhood now.
 
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rocyaice said:
Exactly. How fans can side with owners is beyond me.
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Sometimes is not what players make but who's making it. Also, it's hard to look down on someone who out-earns you 100s of times over hence the character assassinations and "moral superiority" arguments by envious fans.
 
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SSoup said:
I'm confused. Maybe it's because I'm not enough of a basketball fan to have properly understood this slam, "ring brat," and why it's an utterly savage insult. The term "ring brat" sounds to me like a player who chose to play for a winning, competitive team first and then worried about what they'd get paid second. Because the championship was their priority.

A player choosing a team that hasn't competed in decades? Sounds like he's very comfortable indeed with not winning anything. Cool, cool, cool. Very cool thing to brag about.
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Right? Fans love to clamor that players only care about money, not the game. Then if a player switches teams because he wants to win, he's wrong then too because he cares about the game "the wrong way." I don't begrudge any player that can't stand fans. A lot are idiots.
 
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Philmonroe said:
They all took less so just say you’re a jealous hater and leave it at that.
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No, actually, I'm not.

See posts #52 and #85... while I acknowledge you have every right to not have read the thread thoroughly, I'm not inclined to repeat myself.
 

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No, actually, I'm not.

See posts #52 and #85... while I acknowledge you have every right to not have read the thread thoroughly, I'm not inclined to repeat myself.
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Who asked you to repeat yourself? I didn’t so heck outta here with the not inclined to repeat yourself foolishness I didn’t ask for. This is a messageboard right? You posted and I posted my pov simple as that. You’re jealous imo and nothing is changing that so agree or don’t but that’s how I see you on this topic.
 
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You're welcome to be closed-minded. I wasn't so presumptuous as you to think you were, so I offered that I've already answered your sensitivities in previous posts, and even graciously directed you to where those are.

But yeah, it's a discussion board, and if you choose to just make rash assumptions, you're free to do that. Others of us "discuss" on discussion boards.
 
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rocyaice said:
Yeah. Also before the players were athletic freaks like they are now.
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Personally, I dont like the way the NBA is going. Bombing all these 3's is boring to watch.

Isolation and bombing 3's. Lame.
 

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_sturt_ said:
You're welcome to be closed-minded. I wasn't so presumptuous as you to think you were, so I offered that I've already answered your sensitivities in previous posts, and even graciously directed you to where those are.

But yeah, it's a discussion board, and if you choose to just make rash assumptions, you're free to do that. Others of us "discuss" on discussion boards.
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Quote me directly not this passive aggressive junk you’re doing here. I’m not closed minded at all. Take that bootleg psychology back to the sorry community college you got it from. I don’t agree with you on this topic and that alone doesn’t make me closed minded. There aren’t sensitivities just the truth how I see it. You don’t see it that way and that’s ok too. It wasn’t like you would but anyway but spare me this high ground babble because I don’t agree with you. There is nothing to discuss on this topic. We disagree and that’s that on this topic. I just ask for you to not be passive aggressive when you know you’re speaking to me esp after you previously quoted me so you’d know I saw your response. That’s how people handle disagreements
 
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Speaking of community colleges, seems the actual meaning of "passive aggressive" evades some people.

Posts 52 and 85 are direct responses. Nothing passive aggressive about it.

But that's just for those of us who come here to "discuss," of course. People can believe what they want to believe. Always have, always will.
 
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