Zeke or Dak, what if we can only keep one

[John813]

WOW! Without Zeke, Dak is much akin to Vince Young, David Kingler or JaMarcus Russell. While I understand and don't disagree that normal RB's are easier to find, Zeke is no normal RB. He single was the primary reason for the Cowboys success his rookie season and Dak being RoY was a travesty. Without Zeke this team is at best, 6 - 10, probably more like 2 - 14 or 0 - 16.

Trust me it wasn't an easy decision.

While this line isn't as dominate as the 14 line, health and Leary, we saw Murray set the rushing record here. And talent wise Zeke is better at just about everything.

Think that was my main internal argument.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Your big red nose looks good on you. Way to flip-flop, Bozo!

Tell us more about how Dak’s play makes no difference in whether the Cowboys win or lose, which is exactly what you said before.

nice come back child.... when one doesn't have an answer then one resorts to name calling and laughing emoji's, clear signs of mental weakness...

perhaps time for you to pull your head out of Dak's arse and take a little breather

 

[khiladi]

Dak is so clutch he has only TWO come backs wins from ten points or more, meaning at least two scores and they all go back to his rookie season. It’s not him coming back and being clutch, it’s him being mediocre and doing just enough to win, while the defense has to cover for all his fumbles because he holds on to the ball too long.

The most over inflated stat of Dak is his ‘clutch’.

 

[khiladi]

dude, you are hard of understanding..... Dak is average and an average QB play + top notch RB play is helping lead the team. no one is saying Dak is trash, so you have to stop equating when people don't drool over Dak for the obvious reasons with them saying he is trash..... facts are facts. Dak without Zeke is 4-3. Dak when Zeke doesn't perform is 2-6 in 2018. it didn't matter what dak did in any of those games.

He’s 4-3 in meaningless games too, against teams that were a disaster, out of playoff contention, including the Commanders and Giants and Raiders last year by the late end of season and our offenses were sputtering against them and looked like total garbage.

 

[khiladi]

Dak’s last year.. Why extend? Have an agreement under the table with Zeke in a fake contract dispute sit out the year to rest his body. Re-up his contract to begin the following year. Dak wont have Zeke bailing him out, we’ll be like 2-14 or 3-13.

It will make it look like we didn’t tank, but we did for Trevor Lawrence and say Dak, it was nice. Go test the market.

 

[Nav22]

nice come back child.... when one doesn't have an answer then one resorts to name calling and laughing emoji's, clear signs of mental weakness...

perhaps time for you to pull your head out of Dak's arse and take a little breather

LOL actually I called out the EXACT stupidity you spewed before.

You’re embarrassed for sounding like such an idiot, so now you won’t address it.

You’re also too cowardly to backtrack and admit you were wrong.

 

[InTheZone]

Easy...why keep a bottleneck over a player whose position is easier to fill? One player greatly takes pressure off the other, where the other is going to minimize potential for the entire offense and team.

This bottom ranked scoring offense will continue with Dak at QB, I'll bet on that.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

WOW! Without Zeke, Dak is much akin to Vince Young, David Kingler or JaMarcus Russell. While I understand and don't disagree that normal RB's are easier to find, Zeke is no normal RB. He single was the primary reason for the Cowboys success his rookie season and Dak being RoY was a travesty. Without Zeke this team is at best, 6 - 10, probably more like 2 - 14 or 0 - 16.

come on this is not fair...Russell sucked. so even as a Dak critique I don't think that's a fair assessment.....without zeke he has been 4-3....but over a season....hmmm, 6-10 is a good possibility, depends on defense and how he can be saved in some of his stinker games

 

[KJJ]

dak's arrow is pointing sideways for 3 years now.

It isn’t his arrow that’s pointing sideways.

 

[KJJ]

I keep mahomes 11 out of 10 times....but you are talking about mahomes vs. zeke..... this is not a fair comparison to Dak....even for a Dak lover.

If you keep Zeke over Dak who’s your QB in 2019?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

LOL actually I called out the EXACT stupidity you spewed before.

You’re embarrassed for sounding like such an idiot, so now you won’t address it.

You’re also too cowardly to backtrack and admit you were wrong.

whenever I have been wrong I have admitted to it. there is posts you can search and see for yourself. but I am right most of the time...in this case I am 110% right. absoplutley no denying that...you have run out of spins and seemingly like my 5 year old now sticking to one line of argument...a meaningless worthless set of posts you have recently responded to..... your frustration on the matter is obvious and must be embarrassing

.... no matter how you try to avoid answering questions or try to spin spin spin...you can't get away from the facts that have been presented to you..... you have come to the same conclusion on Dak, but are too stubborn or stupid to admit....like I said, my 5 year acts the same way

as I advised you before.... pull your head out of Dak's arse and breath a little...its not becoming of anyone to be so far up anybody's arse...really its not becoming and as much as I disagree with you, I really feel sorry for you more than anything at this point.. I really do. you are one of the saddest fans I have seen on this board. this is sad...very sad..

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You continue to dog Dak. If you kept Zeke over him who’s your QB in 2019?

the question was hypotethical from the OP...now you are trying to spin a different scenario..... the question was if you had to pay only one, which one...I made a choice...now you are changing the narrative and the question....the fact is that both are with the team next year and is not a choice to be made today......

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak is so clutch he has only TWO come backs wins from ten points or more, meaning at least two scores and they all go back to his rookie season. It’s not him coming back and being clutch, it’s him being mediocre and doing just enough to win, while the defense has to cover for all his fumbles because he holds on to the ball too long.

The most over inflated stat of Dak is his ‘clutch’.

my take on the matter is that he sucks for the fist 3.5 quarters to put the team behind in the first place. why can't he just play like these Dak lovers say the 4 quarters as opposed to having to play come backs....

 

[KJJ]

dude, you are hard of understanding..... Dak is average and an average QB play + top notch RB play is helping lead the team. no one is saying Dak is trash, so you have to stop equating when people don't drool over Dak for the obvious reasons with them saying he is trash..... facts are facts. Dak without Zeke is 4-3. Dak when Zeke doesn't perform is 2-6 in 2018. it didn't matter what dak did in any of those games.

If Dak is average how did he manage to have the second most fourth quarter comeback’s the past three years and the third most wins of any QB the past three years? If he’s average how did he manage to get the Cowboys to the playoffs two of his first three seasons and win a playoff game against Russell Wilson? If he’s average how did he manage a 96.0 career passer rating?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I'd rather stupidly pay Zeke 60MM than stupidly pay Dak 180MM.

Woukd be completely fine if both have new ballclubs this time next year.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

If Dak is average how did he manage to have the second most fourth quarter comeback’s the past three years and the third most wins of any QB the past three years? If he’s average how did he manage to get the Cowboys to the playoffs two of his first three seasons and win a playoff game against Russell Wilson? If he’s average how did he manage a 96.0 career passer rating?

Wins is not a QB stat.

Also a 96 passer rating is middling. It would have ranked 16th last year. Kind of the definition of average.

 

[KJJ]

the question was hypotethical from the OP...now you are trying to spin a different scenario..... the question was if you had to pay only one, which one...I made a choice...now you are changing the narrative and the question....the fact is that both are with the team next year and is not a choice to be made today......

I’m giving you a hypothetical if you kept Zeke over the Dak who’s your QB in 2019?

 

[KJJ]

Wins is not a QB stat.

In the NFL it is. QBs are given a W/L record and are judged by it.

 

[KJJ]

Dallas has not made any effort to obtain a QB to compete with Dak. Lock is still available. I would be happy to see Rosen or Lock on the Dallas roster. There are a lot of QBs that would thrive with all of the talent that Dak is surrounded by.

He doesn’t need a QB to compete with him he’s our QB. It would be foolish to give up a premium draft pick for Rosen or Lock. The fans are looking to replace Dak not the team.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

If Dak is average how did he manage to have the second most fourth quarter comeback’s the past three years and the third most wins of any QB the past three years? If he’s average how did he manage to get the Cowboys to the playoffs two of his first three seasons and win a playoff game against Russell Wilson? If he’s average how did he manage a 96.0 career passer rating?

see there you go again...giving dak credit for all the wins.....that's the only narrative that dak lovers keep going back to...with Wilson we would have been in the superbowl and there are a few other QBs that would have netted the same results given what Dak had....

and why do we keep falling behind and can't put teams away and have to make comebacks in the 4th quarter? why can't dak play at a high level for 4 quarters and not force the come back situations.....

and the same argument ...he has 96 career passer rating....you are looking at that in a silo....and the argument is that Dak is middle of the pack QB compared to his peers today....you keep equating that to people saying he is bad!!!!....

and .how does that compare to the ratings of other QBs during the same period....its relative to others.....in 2018....Dak was 15th...that's 14 other QBs had a higher rating than him......