Why should Garrett be kept in a championship season?

HungryLion

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That’s the ultimate goal .

But he’s met your other criteria and why this is absurd. Lol

It’s not absurd at all. He hasn’t gotten the job done. The ultimate goal. The other criteria are just steps towards that goal. He has ultimately failed.

Not very hard to comprehend if you try.

Being good at 2/3 of your job description but failing to meet the most important 1/3 of your job description, is usually a recipe for not being terribly successful at your career.
 

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It’s not absurd at all. He hasn’t gotten the job done. The ultimate goal. The other criteria are just steps towards that goal. He has ultimately failed.

Not very hard to comprehend if you try.

Being good at 2/3 of your job description but failing to meet the most important 1/3 of your job description, is usually a recipe for not being terribly successful at your career.
Having winning a championship as ONLY goal or measurement is silly. We don’t have that for our players.

I’m just not sure how much greater a situation we can expect with Jerry’s dysfunctional situation ?
 

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Because he’s a significant part of their success and it’s stupid to scapegoat a coach when coaching has not been the problem?

He is also a significant part of the lack of playoff success as well.

He may not be the problem, but he dam sure hasn't been the solution either, at least up until now.

Of course, he can change all of that this year...…………...as you always say, he is singing for his supper. He better sing loudly.
 

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Read the situation the OP is asking about.


My opposition to Garrett is his inability to win in the playoffs consistently. 2 Wildcard wins over a decade on the job is laughable.

If we win a championship, Garrett can get a lifetime contract as far as I am concerned.
 

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I’m still waiting on someone to argue that we had a more talented or better team than those in Final 4 last year.
 

HungryLion

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Having winning a championship as ONLY goal or measurement is silly. We don’t have that for our players.

I’m just not sure how much greater a situation we can expect with Jerry’s dysfunctional situation ?

He hasn’t even gotten TO an NFC title game. So the reality is he has fallen well short of the championship goal.

So it’s not silly. He hasn’t accomplished much of anything.

What’s even more laughable, is that you love to point out how terrible Jerry is as the owner/GM is the team. Jerry is ultimately the one responsible for hiring and keeping Garret. Yet somebody then questions his decision to keep Garret and you call it silly.

So should I question his decision making or not? Does Jerry suck as a GM and owner or not? Because he is the reason we ultimately have Garret as the HC.
 

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My opposition to Garrett is his inability to win in the playoffs consistently. 2 Wildcard wins over a decade on the job is laughable.

If we win a championship, Garrett can get a lifetime contract as far as I am concerned.
Placing us in a position to win it should be more applauded in this dysfunctional situation under Jerry.
 

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He hasn’t even gotten TO an NFC title game. So the reality is he has fallen well short of the championship goal.

So it’s not silly. He hasn’t accomplished much of anything.

What’s even more laughable, is that you love to point out how terrible Jerry is as the owner/GM is the team. Jerry is ultimately the one responsible for hiring and keeping Garret. Yet somebody then questions his decision to keep Garret and you call it silly.

So should I question his decision making or not? Does Jerry suck as a GM and owner or not? Because he is the reason we ultimately have Garret as the HC.
Of course. That’s Jerry’s core responsibility. And he has failed in limiting the quality of HC we’ve had. And why I’m so pleased with what this Puppet has accomplished.
 

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Of course. That’s Jerry’s core responsibility. And he has failed in limiting the quality of HC we’ve had. And why I’m so pleased with what this Puppet has accomplished.

And I’m not pleased with what he has accomplished.

Two playoff wins in 8 years isn’t much of an accomplishment. It’s actually the worst amount of playoff wins of any HC who has been in his position that long currently.

But hey, why question that??
 

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I’ve always welcomed Jerry stepping aside and bringing in a more seasoned HC. Until he does this is the best Puppet I’ve seen.
 

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How is that evident?

I think the poster is talking about results, specifically lack of playoff results under one Jason Garrett.

A head coach that has only won 2 Wildcard games after a decade on the job obviously is not getting measured for his bust in canton.

If Garrett won a championship, he would be considered one of the best coaches in the NFL. As it stands today, he is just the longest tenured head coach in the entire NFL that has never taken his team to a conference title game.

Talking about how great a guy he is and what a great culture he has instilled is fine, but at some point results do matter.
 

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I my eyes you keep coaches that have their hands on things. You keep the BB and McVeys, you dont keep the Garrett's who stand on the sideline, clap and make absolutely zero impact on a season.

Why should Garrett stay if the coordinators and players were the real reason of any success? That is like taking credit for someone elses work.

Once the owner tells you to just stand there, put your hands on nothing, and become a motivational puppet, you are a complete joke now.

I will never consider Garrett a SB winning coach even if it does happen. I am not naive enough to believe he would win anywhere else if such a situation acurred.

How do most fans not consider Barry Switzer a SB winning coach but would consider Garrett one!

""In such a situation""

One might suggest they keep him because changing schemes in a season when there APPEARS to be so much promise would surely scuttle what mojo they have.
 

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And I’m not pleased with what he has accomplished.

Two playoff wins in 8 years isn’t much of an accomplishment. It’s actually the worst amount of playoff wins of any HC who has been in his position that long currently.

But hey, why question that??
You’re certainly entitled to question it.

But if you’re measuring Garrett to other normal franchise situations I don’t think is fair. No one else has the puppetry situation and why he should be compared as such.

How many playoff wins did we have since the 90’s SB team with how many different coaches?
 

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I think the poster is talking about results, specifically lack of playoff results under one Jason Garrett.

A head coach that has only won 2 Wildcard games after a decade on the job obviously is not getting measured for his bust in canton.

If Garrett won a championship, he would be considered one of the best coaches in the NFL. As it stands today, he is just the longest tenured head coach in the entire NFL that has never taken his team to a conference title game.

Talking about how great a guy he is and what a great culture he has instilled is fine, but at some point results do matter.
You’d think so but who knows with our silly football franchise.

I’m impressed these Idiots field a competitive team.
 

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Jason has underperformed.

Not really a hot take. It's just objective.

I don't even particularly like him, but if the team does win a SB, then yes he deserves credit.

If he doesn't perform, it's time to move on.
 

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I beg to differ. Garrett has a long track record of losing the team when it comes to adjusting.

When the pressure falls on Garretts shoulders he folds everytime and that is a fact.

Making some mistakes does not equate to doing nothing but clap. He's not a strong game day coach, and I said myself I wanted him replaced, but this constant image people try to create of him clapping and having no involvement with the team is plain nonsense. Thaat is just carrying the dislike to an irrational level. It's okay to think he isn't a good coach. I don't think he is either. But at least keep the arguments against him within the bounds of reason.
 
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And then he's replaced by...

Jeff Fisher.
 

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Define “ getting the job done”.

Is going to championships the only means of measurement some fans have?

Getting job done means WINNING...……..that is usually the standard used in professional sports.

When head coaches are inducted into the Hall of Fame of their given sport, they usually talk about how many playoff victories they have, how many championships they won. They dont induct coaches that only win Wildcard games every couple of seasons, but say "hey, at least his players tried".

Professional sports is a results oriented business in case you have not noticed.
 

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Getting job done means WINNING...……..that is usually the standard used in professional sports.

When head coaches are inducted into the Hall of Fame of their given sport, they usually talk about how many playoff victories they have, how many championships they won. They dont induct coaches that only win Wildcard games every couple of seasons, but say "hey, at least his players tried".

Professional sports is a results oriented business in case you have not noticed.
There are HOF and well respected HC without a championship.
 
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