Twitter: NFL may be trying to make an example out of Zeke

cern said:
Post the link where he said nothing. Zeke had his back to the guy and suddenly turns around and says "what did you say, buddy". Basically a nice way of saying "say that to my face" vacuum head.
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I'm seeing DeNiro in "Taxi Driver" now. But that's OK, I do several times a day anyway.
 
mattjames2010 said:
We are talking about people surrounding Zeke, that is the context, smooth brain. Thus, it's people around him and who influences him. That was also referenced in the comment you responded to.

If you are in control of someone's future and their money, and they go out and mess up and you pretty much tell them "It just doesn't matter, it's minor, you're still getting that big pay day" - There are no consequences there, it's a pass to go out and be a knucklehead with no repercussions.
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Oh no not smooth brain. Online makes people real bold but smooth brain ill be online. We are not talking about that you are. I asked how does someone who has never been around Zeke know who is around him. That’s what I’m talking about. You can’t change my question just to fit your viewpoint
 
cern said:
Post the link where he said nothing. Zeke had his back to the guy and suddenly turns around and says "what did you say, buddy". Basically a nice way of saying "say that to my face" vacuum head.
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You made the claim. I don't need to find the source for it, the burden of proof is on you. You then need to justify Zeke's response to what the officer said - by the way, just the security guard talking is not wrong, nor is it justification for getting physical.

So again, citation on what was said to Zeke and then we can discuss if what was said was enough to warrant Zeke to get physical with a security.

Who is up next?
 
CouchCoach said:
Unless you weren't intelligent. He told me early on he was an ex scientist just to scare me. He knew I'd automatically put mad in front of that.
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I just find some fans amusing here. But in a "I feel sorry for you" way.
 
Future said:
Are you saying that he broke his contract? Saying "High profile NFL player" is a qualifier. If it's not because of the celebrity, then just say he broke his contract.

What I think is dumb is people making an incident more than it is because he's an athlete. Not whether or not the rules are dumb.
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Because he is an athlete that is a key player on a team people invest a lot of time, and emotion and money into, and that could end up jeopardizing his future and that team if he doesn't straighten his path. The reality is his very job exists because people are willing to invest that kind of time, emotion and money into supporting him and his team and the NFL, and with that comes some expectations. And we have all seen players with bright futures derail their own careers with a pattern of bad behavior. At this point there has to be some concern of that with Zeke.
 
Philmonroe said:
Oh no not smooth brain. Online makes people real bold but smooth brain ill be online. We are not talking about that you are. I asked how does someone who has never been around Zeke know who is around him. That’s what I’m talking about. You can’t change my question just to fit your viewpoint
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I just gave you two people around Zeke, the people that are part of determining his future in the league and the money he gets. Are you trying to suggest Zeke is detached from his freakin' employers?
 
mattjames2010 said:
You made the claim. I don't need to find the source for it, the burden of proof is on you. You then need to justify Zeke's response to what the officer said - by the way, just the security guard talking is not wrong, nor is it justification for getting physical.

So again, citation on what was said to Zeke and then we can discuss if what was said was enough to warrant Zeke to get physical with a security.

Who is up next?
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I guess I am, been working on smoothing the kinks out in my brain for some time now.
 
mattjames2010 said:
You made the claim. I don't need to find the source for it, the burden of proof is on you. You then need to justify Zeke's response to what the officer said - by the way, just the security guard talking is not wrong, nor is it justification for getting physical.

So again, citation on what was said to Zeke and then we can discuss if what was said was enough to warrant Zeke to get physical with a security.

Who is up next?
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This is not a court of law, vacuum head. There is no burden of proof required of me. I was instrumental in proving the existence of the Higgs boson. But bozos are beyond my purview.
 
mattjames2010 said:
And where did he say anything? Post the link to what he said. He's a security guard, they aren't off-limits from talking to someone causing an incident.

LOL smooth brains are really out today.
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He wasn't even a real security guard. It said "EVENT STAFF" on his jacket. This guy works for a temp service. It was a one day job for him basically.

Mr. EVENT STAFF wants his fifteen minutes.
 
cern said:
This is not a court of law, vacuum head. There is no burden of proof required of me. I was instrumental in proving the existence of the Higgs boson. But bozos are beyond my purview.
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Is that a typo and should be Higgs bosom? And if it is, more details please.

And I consider vacuum head a well played one up over smooth brain. Well played, cern 2, matt 1.
 
if I may guys...like cern said. Chill out, this isn't a court. We don't need to prove squat. We are all equals on here and should treat each other as such...with respect. We come in here to have adult conversations and banter. Lets keep it that way.
 
OmerV said:
I honestly don't think fans are coming down on his actions based on morality as much as availability, although naturally fans would like to think of the players as good guys. It's really more the fact that he may have - again - jeopardized his ability to play the entire season, and that negatively impacts the team we all hope to see succeed.

But aside from that, suppose Zeke were your son. As his father, would you tell him he has to get his act together so he doesn't jeopardize his future, or would you tell him it's no big deal and advise him he can act this way if he wants? The reality is, people grow up and accept responsibility when there are consequences for not doing so.
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As far as the father thing I honeslty answered the question in the post you quoted. I would tell him he is messing up even though this isn’t the biggest deal to me. When your in any type of spotlight many want to see you fail so they can say see they’re not special. That might not apply to you but please believe it is some
It definitely does apply to. I don’t disagree with people that say he is messing up but personally I think folks grandstand and virtue signal a lot esp online. Saying Zeke is messing up esp in regards to how the nfl does business is a no expletive comment to me and that’s why I don’t really get the point of saying them. That’s just never been how I was raised so it seems strange to me. In fairness maybe others were raised differently and or that’s how they get their feeling of importance and I have to be more understanding on that front.

Long winded way of saying I see your point and maybe you can see mine.
 
Cern is a poster that has been on these boards forever and deserves better.
 
cern said:
This is not a court of law, vacuum head. There is no burden of proof required of me. I was instrumental in proving the existence of the Higgs boson. But bozos are beyond my purview.
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So you don't actually have anything. That's why you're avoiding posting a citation for your claim. Also, burden of proof is not just for the court of law, it's also part of a debate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

You're not good at this. Who is up next?
 
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