Twitter: NFL may be trying to make an example out of Zeke

[northerncowboynation]

[QUOTE="mattjames2010, post: 9229249, member: 32138"Until someone can provide a specific clip where you can hear the guard saying anything to warrant getting pushed, I have no idea what excuse can be made for Zeke here or why anyone would try so hard to excuse him.

Why would you assume nothing was said? From all the examples of Zeke beating up strangers?[/QUOTE]

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

If there is an absents of evidence, why the heck are you proclaiming BOTH parties are in the wrong? LOL what?

Let's ignore the security guard for a moment, you know the incident started with Zeke and his girlfriend arguing right? Where he was getting in her face while she was trying to leave? They didn't just pick Zeke out of a crowd. He was already losing his cool before the guard supposedly said anything.

Until someone can provide a specific clip where you can hear the guard saying anything to warrant getting pushed, I have no idea what excuse can be made for Zeke here or why anyone would try so hard to excuse him.

The guy said something. I'm not saying the guy said something wrong. But by Zeke's reaction, the guy said something. Zeke was drunk. I'm not defending Zeke. I'm just using my power of observation. Zeke could have misinterpreted the guy.

But I still think it was a setup. So if you're setting someone up you're not about to say something nice.

 

[Rayman70]

Should have told that to my son. He would have stopped asking Mom for money. He knew much better than to ask me

Have one about to head to boot camp on the 10th...and the other still at home wanting mom and dad to hold her hand and give her money. The 2 kids are so different lol...

 

[lukin2006]

You know what. Zeke is an adult. He needs to grow up. No way we should go into the season with the possibility of another suspension, if the NFL does not suspend before season, then Jones should...more and more I am feeling he was a wasted draft pick. And if there is a good vet FA we should sign and sit Zeke until the NFL decides what they are doing...

By the way, I find it hard to believe that Zeke could not sue the NFL for damages they caused from that 1st suspension...and until someone does these clowns in NY will continue to railroad players...

 

[Rayman70]

and the one at home is older than the one going to the military. ...Goes to show you everyone developes mentally on a different rate.

 

[mattjames2010]

Why would you assume nothing was said? From all the examples of Zeke beating up strangers?

Zeke was accused of punching and knocking someone out in a bar back in 2017 - he, luckily, seems to have gotten away with that one.

 

[Plumfool]

Haha the security wants another apology from Zeke because he did not make eye contact with him.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26846814/security-guard-wants-sincere-apology-zeke

"I did get an apology from him. It wasn't a sincere apology," Johnson said. "He didn't maintain eye contact. It didn't seem sincere at all."

This guy lol

 

[Philmonroe]

You really think Cowboy fans want to see the star players fail even though those are the players most capable of helping the team win? That's nonsense. The obvious frustration is when a player does things to jeopardize his ability and opportunity to help the team win. I think that's the point you and future ignore.

Nobody was talking this way about Emmitt, or even DeMarco Murray or Zeke in 2016. They were thrilled to see those guys succeed, and help the team succeed. Nobody wanted them to fail. The difference isn't that fans have suddenly become self-righteous at this moment in time with this player, it's that this player at this moment in time is showing a pattern of behavior that could jeopardize his ability to succeed and help the team succeed.

Again, fans invest a lot of time, emotion and money into the NFL and the teams they are a fan of, and, in fact, Zeke would not have a job and the Cowboys would not exist if that weren't the case. That's why it's important to fans.

You can think it’s nonsense because you’re projecting yourself for everybody but I never do that. That’s why I said some but for some reason you constantly seem to miss things like that. I don’t get why.

I also don’t get why online people get conveniently wild where everything has to be spelled out perfectly for them to understand. When I said people want them to fail of course I don’t mean on the field that doesn’t make sense. Come on my man. I’m talking about when situations like Zeke has found himself in some are happy that they happen in an envious way to show that that person isn’t blah blah blah. I’ve saw it happen many times and if you haven’t good for you but I have mainly online. Some people are self righteous in situations like this but we aren’t changing the others pov on this so we will just have to agree to disagree on that one. I’m not saying it’s not people who are concerned with his availability but some are also envious and glad when things like this happen. If you don’t believe that you come of naive to me but imo just online like you so no big deal honeslty how I see you.

Edit: As far as you’re last sentence it still is a case by case basis and that’s why I personally think it’s self righteousness. Just as many that invest time money etc into the team that care about this as far as Zeke being bad about the same amount or maybe a little less don’t care. That’s why I don’t like using the well they are fans stuff like others who don’t care are not fans themselves.

 

[mattjames2010]

You can think it’s nonsense because you’re projecting yourself for everybody but I never do that. That’s why I said some but for some reason you constantly seem to miss things like that. I don’t get why.

I also don’t get why online people get conveniently wild where everything has to be spelled out perfectly for them to understand. When I said people want them to fail of course I don’t mean on the field that doesn’t make sense. Come on my man. I’m talking about when situations like Zeke has found himself in some are happy that they happen in an envious way to show that that person isn’t blah blah blah. I’ve saw it happen many times and if you haven’t good for you but I have mainly online. Some people are self righteous in situations like this but we aren’t changing the others pov on this so we will just have to agree to disagree on that one. I’m not saying it’s not people who are concerned with his availability but some are also envious and glad when things like this happen. If you don’t believe that you come of naive to me but imo just online like you so no big deal honeslty how I see you.

This forum was pretty much unanimously defending Zeke during his last incident and thought his suspension was wrong. The fact that it's more divided on this issue shows Zeke is messing up and doing it consistently - as someone who defended Zeke during his last suspension, it makes me question if he truly was straight in that entire incident.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

By the way, I find it hard to believe that Zeke could not sue the NFL for damages they caused from that 1st suspension...and until someone does these clowns in NY will continue to railroad players...

That's my thoughts exactly. When they suspended him the first time it was defamation of character on their end. The put Zeke in a negative spotlight. And now the guy probably can't go anywhere without being picked on.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Zeke was accused of punching and knocking someone out in a bar back in 2017 - he, luckily, seems to have gotten away with that one.

I didnt even know about that one.

 

[ESisback]

Lmao. @cern is literally the last fan here I would make intelligence insults too, lol.

Truth

 

[links18]

"There is growing concern around the league that the league is out to make an example out of Zeke." By league, do they mean Goodell? Mara? And who in the league has concerns? Jerry, Stephen and who else? NFLPA?

 

[mattjames2010]

I didnt even know about that one.

Yep, and there' a pattern - drinking, females in the middle of the incident, DJs....

He seems to enjoy the night life, so I don't expect the most recent incident to be the last.

https://www.tmz.com/2017/07/17/ezekiel-elliot-bar-fight-incident/

 

[Plumfool]

Zeke is making an example of himself.

Where was all this energy when Zeke paid for the Jaylon’s funeral?

 

[ESisback]

Yes, playing ball is labor. It's a job, and the NFL and the teams employ the players for the purpose of making their business profitable. Under the law that's no different than a law firm hiring an attorney or a manufacturer hiring an engineer.

Yes, Zeke being out hurts the team, and I understand your point that the team can't control everything a player does, and therefore it doesn't seem fair to punish the team. But the reality is the NFL is not the only employer that can be negatively impacted by the bad behavior of an employee. If an employee calls in sick too often because he stayed up partying, or he does something that casts the business in a bad light and the business loses sales or clients, or if he gets fired for his conduct and is no longer available to perform his job for the benefit of the company, that hurts the employer.

I suspect the viewpoint of the NFL is that when there are consequences for the team as well as the player, the team is incentivized to educate and police players themselves, and hopefully head off some issues before they occur.

Then, there is the fact that this would never be accepted by the NFLPA in the collective bargaining process.

You’re 100% right, it just trips my trigger. As good as Zeke is, I hope the team is furiously making contingency plans! We FINALLY seem to be emerging, and idiot boy has to poke the bear!

 

[lukin2006]

That's my thoughts exactly. When they suspended him the first time it was defamation of character on their end. The put Zeke in a negative spotlight. And now the guy probably can't go anywhere without being picked on.

He is going to get suspended over this. That's why I would not enter the season with this problem. Get a vet back and sit Zeke. I blame Jones a lot for Zeke's 1st suspension. I do not believe for a minute he had Zeke's back...if he did, he would have boycotted the HOF ceremony, only by just not showing up...embarrass Goodale and the league. Also if I was Zones, I would sit visiting owners in the section known to be the rowdiest and supply free beer...it is stuff like this is why I am not watching football as much. As long as the players are total thugs, I can live minor brushes with the law...after all, likely every night in America 1000's of young men are cuffed and never charged.

My cousin who is a retired cop says that is normal...in some cases to protect the intoxicated from doing something even stupider, the cops know it was minor and would go nowhere.

 

[gjkoeppen]

So many here have fallen into the trap of thinking that these "insiders" are never wrong. Name any "insider" that's never publicly said some hot news and later found out that he was all wrong or completely misinterpreted what he was told. I'm not saying this guy is wrong but I'm not going to get all excited until if it happens it does happen.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Yep, and there' a pattern - drinking, females in the middle of the incident, DJs....

He seems to enjoy the night life, so I don't expect the most recent incident to be the last.

https://www.tmz.com/2017/07/17/ezekiel-elliot-bar-fight-incident/

I have a two drink limit when at friends and a one drink limit in the general public. And I don't stay out late unless I'm at friends. That's something I had to learn over time.

Once Zeke leaves the alcohol alone I think he'll be alright.

 

[Diehardblues]

Balderdash.

Not to some we can only hope.