Saquon mania vs. Ezekiel facts

[aria]

Yes, there was!!!! Turns out the Gnats run blocking was better than the Cowboys run blocking!!!

Unless that doesn't fit your agenda, then you can find a sight that says more of what you want !!!!!!!!!!!!

So you’re just going to ignore this? Or does not fit your agenda? Not to mention anyone who watched either team would have seen the clear difference. NY had three starters on the O line that they cut half way through the season, that’s how bad they were. They had Erek Flowers starting. Ya get that? Ever even hear of the guy? Barkley also had the shortest amount of contact between when the ball was hiked to when he touched it, more than any other RB but the Cowboys O line was worse...ok.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

 

[Whirlwin]

Are you talking about the same Elliott?

His focus on football with the off the field concerns is fair. But his blocking and vision? Zeke is an incredible blocker and has excellent vision.

No I don't think he's a hundred percent focused sometimes on the field. I believe he said he's missed open holes himself

 

[Whirlwin]

Lol wut? Saquon constantly makes lateral cuts at the LOS to try to get the edge. It's his entire game.

Making a lateral cut is way different from going 5 yards right and cutting back left. Stop it

 

[Whirlwin]

Just because you train with a RB means nothin to me. Is that supposed to validate what you are saying? As my years of watching means nothing?
And I do use my eyes as well. Don't assume I don't with saying "try it".

I disagree, about Zeke not being focused, you can't tell that, only can think it. I never thought he was not focused. It is a matter of opinion based on like or dislike of a player. Fact is the players themselves say how focused Zeke is.
The feed me thing is him getting into the game, don't look at it as being selfish. He understands he is not going to get the ball every play.
Is it irritating at times, yes it is. Bt that is the way of the NFL now from many players.

I am just glad we have players to show some emotion on the field as Michael Irvin did. And now that Jaylon and LVE are getting into it, I have no problem with it. Some do and that is their right.

Ezekiel Elliott has set himself at times he misses open holes. Takes wrong angels. To me that's not being focused

 

[Whirlwin]

Barkley = Sanders
Zeke = Emmitt

Barkley will not be the best the NFL has seen. Emmitt has that title. Zeke has that potential. Even Emmitt said that himself.
Matter of fact, Emmitt told Garrett in the booth when they watched him dismantle Alabama and then Oregon.
Heck I said it back then, Dallas needs to find a way to draft Zeke.

I think many Dallas fans fawn over other players, just to show they don't want to be called a homer.
Zeke > Barkley
Dak > Wentz
Mahomes > Dak
All 3 unbiased opinions and also still to be determined final results, check back in 5 yard then in 10 years.

So you don't think Shaquan Barkley has a chance. But Elliot does. Yeah like you said that sounds like a little Cowboy favoritism to me and I get that. But you lose integrity because you're truly not being fair

 

[Whirlwin]

Just because you train with a RB means nothin to me. Is that supposed to validate what you are saying? As my years of watching means nothing?
And I do use my eyes as well. Don't assume I don't with saying "try it".

I disagree, about Zeke not being focused, you can't tell that, only can think it. I never thought he was not focused. It is a matter of opinion based on like or dislike of a player. Fact is the players themselves say how focused Zeke is.
The feed me thing is him getting into the game, don't look at it as being selfish. He understands he is not going to get the ball every play.
Is it irritating at times, yes it is. Bt that is the way of the NFL now from many players.

I am just glad we have players to show some emotion on the field as Michael Irvin did. And now that Jaylon and LVE are getting into it, I have no problem with it. Some do and that is their right.

Look all I'm saying is when you give an excuse It's supposed to be more important with substance than my excuse. 2 time Super Bowl running back compared to your eyes who do you think I'm going to listen to. So you can use the excuse because Emmett said so. But when I use somebody else's barometer how dare I. I'm finding out everybody's Tendencies on this site sooner than not.

 

[jazzcat22]

So you don't think Shaquan Barkley has a chance. But Elliot does. Yeah like you said that sounds like a little Cowboy favoritism to me and I get that. But you lose integrity because you're truly not being fair

It is not favoritism, it is my opinion. If you disagree you disagree. And I did not say Barkley doesn't have a chance. getting or losing integrity has nothing to do with it. And what is being fair, I am being perfectly fair stating my opinion.

 

[Whirlwin]

It is not favoritism, it is my opinion. If you disagree you disagree. And I did not say Barkley doesn't have a chance. getting or losing integrity has nothing to do with it. And what is being fair, I am being perfectly fair stating my opinion.

In this response you were being fair but not prior and actually you did say it. But I'm getting on with my day

 

[jazzcat22]

Look all I'm saying is when you give an excuse It's supposed to be more important with substance than my excuse. 2 time Super Bowl running back compared to your eyes who do you think I'm going to listen to. So you can use the excuse because Emmett said so. But when I use somebody else's barometer how dare I. I'm finding out everybody's Tendencies on this site sooner than not.

I don't care who you listen to, nor do I don't blame you. If I was told something by a person I knew. I take take that person opinion over someone posting on here also if I agreed with that person. But it doesn't make him or you right. It is his opinion, as it is yours and mine. Not, yours, mine or his validates anything. Basically what he is saying is nothing more than a talking head on ESPN or the NFLN.

I know someone that was engaged to a man that worked high up in the FO for the 90's SB team. He may still be there if not for a tragic accident that took his life. She told me many stories from back then. Showed me pictures as well. She also dated Mickey Mantle's son for a while. And yes I seen pictures.
Her mom used to be the personal hairdresser for Troy Aikman's mom.
She still has one of the SB rings from the 90's, that his family let her keep one of the after his death. And yes I seen it.

But I am not going to come in here and say much of the things she told me. Because I know it will get questioned and beat down like everything else.
And because I don't care to tell them.

 

[jazzcat22]

In this response you were being fair but not prior and actually you did say it. But I'm getting on with my day

Me too, I need to get my coffee, check other info in here. e-mails, finances for the week. Then go and finish working on my sprinklers.

 

[GMO415]

With training camp fast approaching the last thing on my mind is Saquon mania

I have to agree. I don't give two shhhh about who's better. I'm focused on getting our sixth SB and nothing else.

 

[Whirlwin]

Me too, I need to get my coffee, check other info in here. e-mails, finances for the week. Then go and finish working on my sprinklers.

I'm actually doing the same thing my cowboy brother working on my sprinklers I meant no disrespect. I was not having a good day

 

[Whirlwin]

I don't care who you listen to, nor do I don't blame you. If I was told something by a person I knew. I take take that person opinion over someone posting on here also if I agreed with that person. But it doesn't make him or you right. It is his opinion, as it is yours and mine. Not, yours, mine or his validates anything. Basically what he is saying is nothing more than a talking head on ESPN or the NFLN.

I know someone that was engaged to a man that worked high up in the FO for the 90's SB team. He may still be there if not for a tragic accident that took his life. She told me many stories from back then. Showed me pictures as well. She also dated Mickey Mantle's son for a while. And yes I seen pictures.
Her mom used to be the personal hairdresser for Troy Aikman's mom.
She still has one of the SB rings from the 90's, that his family let her keep one of the after his death. And yes I seen it.

But I am not going to come in here and say much of the things she told me. Because I know it will get questioned and beat down like everything else.
And because I don't care to tell them.

I am from the old Cowboys fan forum, I had a Landry's hat over a hundred thousand post , I never pressed the report button oh, I was proud of that LOL I was pretty fair had a good reputation not that that means anything to you just trying to give you some background. I've Been a Cowboy fan since my military overseas watching Rodger Staubach. I know it's not spelled right are you speaking text because I have neuropathy from the military. How could you not love the star what it represents. Be good be safe my cowboy brother. Don Google speak and text having problems today sorry about the gobble

 

[Whirlwin]

Me too, I need to get my coffee, check other info in here. e-mails, finances for the week. Then go and finish working on my sprinklers.

I just change 7 sprinkler heads from Hunter to Rain Bird. The Rain Bird I so much easier to adjust. Then I had to go from 1/2 inch to 3/4 but I needed the Riser because after 8 Seasons they drop down in the lawn. At least it's water and it's hot mixes well LOL

 

[jazzcat22]

I just change 7 sprinkler heads from Hunter to Rain Bird. The Rain Bird I so much easier to adjust. Then I had to go from 1/2 inch to 3/4 but I needed the Riser because after 8 Seasons they drop down in the lawn. At least it's water and it's hot mixes well LOL

I went from Rain Bird to Hunter. LOL. Only because they had the brass head and not plastic.
Replaced 5 on one side of the house, 2 on the other side, but 3 are giving me a problem right now. They too sunk a bit, and I need to dig around them to get to them to unscrew them. My hands don't work as well as they used to so it makes it a bit harder. But a friend will come over to help me.

My back yard sprinklers, don't pop up, I think it is a solenoid. The front lawn is ok, I just need to adjust the spray.

Thing is we had a lot of rain so I haven't really had to use them. Last year I didn't have them on at all. So far this year I have not either, but I think this year Texas will have a long hot summer. So getting prepared.

My preseason TC work.

 

[PoetTree]

An important video for everyone involved in this discussion. If you think Saquon had bad run-blocking, you might need to think again...

"Saquon didn't have the magic runs if you can't get the line-of-scrimmage clean." --Brian Baldinger

 

[NotForLong]

The post was likely mind-numbingly dopey from the first word, but it got especially dopey starting from the idea that it makes any kind of sense to remove a running back’s longest run from every game...

Same argument with Barry Sanders & Emmitt

 

[PoetTree]

And for anyone who didn't catch it, check out how bad Barkley's vision and/or instincts are @ 0:49 of this video. Will Hernandez plows his man out of the hole, Nate Solder washes Calais Campbell out of the play, and Barkley is staring at an obvious hole straight in front of him behind Hernandez. If he hits it, he's got a chance to spring loose into the secondary.

What does he do?

He cuts left for some reason, trying to bounce it outside and is swiftly consumed by the string of lateral defenders. Plays like this might be why Saquon both hit the big-play with some frequency --because he's a freak athlete & is always looking for it-- and yet also averaged just over 3 yards-per-carry on 94% of his touches.

Don't get me wrong, Barkley is an unbelievably talented player; and if he can marry his explosiveness with the kind of consistency Zeke is currently King of, he might go down as the best of all-time. But, as it stands now, I stand by original assessment that Saquon has got to show me some things before he's in the same breath as Zeke...

 

[aria]

An important video for everyone involved in this discussion. If you think Saquon had bad run-blocking, you might need to think again...

"Saquon didn't have the magic runs if you can't get the line-of-scrimmage clean." --Brian Baldinger

This video should be a Will Hernandez highlight video, not Barkley. Hernandez is their best O lineman but this video hardly proves that Saquon didn’t have food run blocking just because of one player. Baldy doesn’t mention Solder who was well below average for the first half of the season.

What about Patrick Omameh who they cut half way thought the season? Where’s his highlight video? What about Erek Flowers highlight video before they cut him? What about Chad Wheeler?

It’s absurd and completely cherry picking. That’s like saying that if Fred Beard were playing, and the rest of the O linemen were average or wouldn’t even be starting on any other NFL team, that Zeke had good blocking because I posted a highlight real of Frederick blocking for Zeke.

 

[aria]

And for anyone who didn't catch it, check out how bad Barkley's vision and/or instincts are @ 0:49 of this video. Will Hernandez plows his man out of the hole, Nate Solder washes Calais Campbell out of the play, and Barkley is staring at an obvious hole straight in front of him behind Hernandez. If he hits it, he's got a chance to spring loose into the secondary.

What does he do?

He cuts left for some reason, trying to bounce it outside and is swiftly consumed by the string of lateral defenders. Plays like this might be why Saquon both hit the big-play with some frequency --because he's a freak athlete & is always looking for it-- and yet also averaged just over 3 yards-per-carry on 94% of his touches.

Don't get me wrong, Barkley is an unbelievably talented player; and if he can marry his explosiveness with the kind of consistency Zeke is currently King of, he might go down as the best of all-time. But, as it stands now, I stand by original assessment that Saquon has got to show me some things before he's in the same breath as Zeke...

Again, more cherry picking. Would you like me to post a highlight reel of all the runs he had where he does show great vision? How about I bring up how Zeke stepped out of bounds without a defender within 10 yards of him in what would have been a TD and possibly a win instead of a loss? Would that prove he has horrible vision?