Video: Is Dak worth 30 Million? *MERGE*

[PAPPYDOG]

Most likely we are drafting around 20-30 next year. Very good chance that the 2 teams that are in a position to draft the top 2 QB prospects are going to be drafting 1 and 2. If not then a top 5-10 team will be looking to move down to pick up the top 2 guys. We would have to sell out the next 3 years of drafts in order to even be taken seriously to move up and pick up a guy. Look at the last 10 years of QB's taken in the 1st round and tell me how likely it is to find a guy that is an improvement over Dak....The draft is always a gamble anyway. To add the increased weight of throwing your next 3 years of draft picks only makes this gamble worse. Then you have to weigh the other ramifications of doing this. Would this hypothetical QB ever be as good as Dak? How many Ryan Tannehils or Mariota's are first round picks before you land the Mahommes or Rodgers? 20-1? 10-1? How much better would this drafted QB be over Dak when you are giving up your next 3 years of quality picks?

You can spam the board with your anti dak hate but you and I know that it wont matters. We dont make the decisions. The only decision we make is deciding how much of this form of entertainment are we going to give up being angry over stuff we can't control.

Its funny or maybe its sad that you can't have an intelligent discussion about our QB situation. You clearly take this crap way too seriously. You get so defensive over your opinion...its weird.

Bud its been to long for us 24 years and counting.There's no Dak hate just cold hard reality that we are 1 quality QB away from SB # 6!
Now if your ok with this team falling short due to our inept passing game then either your to young to remember our glory days or your love of Dak has surpassed your love for the Star.....Keeping Dak with a expensive contract will add another 5 years minimal to our SB hunger!

 

[CouchCoach]

What's interesting about that video is that I can agree and argue every point and that's the way this entire Dakcussion has been going ever since it started. Other than some outlandish points, there are very valid points on both sides of this.

However, I keep coming back to Avril's point about the market and lack of options if they don't extend him.

Is he worth 30M? No, I don't think so but if that's the price of QB1's being established, why should he take less? I think the point about increased expectation coming with the 30M is valid but he also left out the unwritten rule of all NFL players, the job is to drive the rates up. Players do not like the term "team friendly contracts" because they see that as "owner friendly contracts".

Think about this. 6 years ago Flacco won the SB playing in the last year of his contract and got 20M a year. In just 6 short years, the top QB salary has increased 75% and within 8 years will have doubled to 40M.

One thing I disagree with in that video is Merriman citing stats like his 300 yard passing games. Did Aikman get paid on his stats? Or did his W-L stats get more consideration? A D guy is really making a point about 300 yard passing games? Cutler had 27 and he was 11-16, so, who ya gonna call? Marino had 67 300 yard games and 4 in the playoffs, he was 1-3 in the playoffs.

Dak Prescott will not be paid to get stats other than that 66% winning stat. He will be paid to manage the offense and lead the team, just like Aikman was.

 

[Kevinicus]

No one is giving up a haul of draft picks for a QB who is a free agent.
You are arguing that he is crap and then you are arguing that he has all this trade value.... which one is it.

Which guys are similar capable for way way less money? Who are we getting? Chase Daniel makes over $10m per year. Is this the type you want? Even backup QB's make a lot of money these days.

I didn't say he was "crap." That's your word. You brought up cutting him. That means now, not next year. That means he isn't a free agent and can be traded. And if you are considering giving the guy a huge contract, then your damn right somebody better be willing to offer up some great pics, or you are an absolute idiot for considering a contract anything close to that.

A few good backup QBs make some decent money, and there's not much difference between the middle of the road starter and the top end backups. Chase Daniels with the rest of this roster? As a temporary measure, sure. But we'd still need to be looking long term. I'd definitely take Chase at 10 over Dak at 30. Others like Fitzpatrick, Tyrod Taylor, etc. Guys who can play, but aren't great. Guys like Dak. Guys you use as stop gaps until you do find a franchise guy.

 

[Einstein]

These guys have no idea what they are talking about. Dak's contract will not stop them from signing defensive players. We don't even have any meaningful defensive players to worry about any time soon. LVE and Jaylon are years down the road.

Isn't Jaylon a RFA after this season?

 

[JayFord]

I bet a pint of cow urine this thread hits ten pages before nightfall

 

[OmerV]

Bud its been to long for us 24 years and counting.There's no Dak hate just cold hard reality that we are 1 quality QB away from SB # 6!
Now if your ok with this team falling short due to our inept passing game then either your to young to remember our glory days or your love of Dak has surpassed your love for the Star.....Keeping Dak with a expensive contract will add another 5 years minimal to our SB hunger!

This is an inane comment because obviously people aren’t okay with falling short all the time, they just don’t agree with you that Dak at QB guarantees the team will fall short, or that the odds will improve without Dak. You may not have noticed, but you aren’t viewed as the definitive voice on this issue.

 

[America's Cowboy]

To people who can't handle the truth, yes I am. Now stop lying.

I supply unsubstantiated facts and links to support those facts. You supply nothing but butthurt words = lies.

Once again...

You are a lie.

 

[charron]

People hate paying Crawford 10/m a year but want to hand Dak 30. We likely have 1 shot at a SB and that is now with the talent we have. It's doubtful we assemble this much talent again and less doubtful the more we pay Dak.

 

[noshame]

Season 1 they built a offense around Dak's strengths, season they began to abandon it and revert to Linehan's base. Last year they were fully immersed in Linehans offense, and play calling, it sucked. This year we will go with a moving QB who excels throwing on the run, we will play action and use the heck out of counters and miss-direction.

Dak will be a top three QB, if Moore is a master play caller, we will stay on top for years to come.
Some will be using different identities as the year progresses.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

Ok so what’s your plan?
Do we cut him? Who is out there we can pick up cheap who is going to improve the Dallas Cowboys?
Are we tanking and trading away future #1s in hopes we can draft Tua?
The reality is QBs capable of winning at this level are extremely hard to come by. Look at how many teams like the Bucs, Bears, Niners, Skins, Cards, ect have been looking and looking and can’t ever find quality at this position.

So I’m asking that instead of complaining about something you propose a plan for upgrading ect.

My plan would have been real simple, 1st i would have gone after Josh Rosen when i knew he was available and if that failed i would have looked to the draft to get another QB. As for right now i would let Dak play out the 4th year of his contract then if i thought it was worth it i would tag him next season. I don't hate or dislike Dak i just think he is an average QB and alot of things have to go right for us to win a SB with him and i don't think that is the way to go with your starting QB whether for us or any team in the NFL

 

[superonyx]

Bud its been to long for us 24 years and counting.There's no Dak hate just cold hard reality that we are 1 quality QB away from SB # 6!
Now if your ok with this team falling short due to our inept passing game then either your to young to remember our glory days or your love of Dak has surpassed your love for the Star.....Keeping Dak with a expensive contract will add another 5 years minimal to our SB hunger!

I wish I were too young to remember our Glory Days....or all the lyrics to that song.

I think the difference between you and I is different than you think. I do not agree that we can't win a SB with Dak. I have been watching this sport for a long time now. I'm one of the fans that doesnt miss a game. I don't buy into this idea that only a certain type of team can win a superbowl. I don't believe that any one part of the game is that much more important the others. I believe at this level everyone is big, fast, athletic and talented enough to win a SB. The difference between a 6-10 team and a 12-4 team is about 4 points per game. The one area that matters more than any other is this sport is coaching and scheme.

As far as Dak goes..... I feel he is a winner. Just like our eyes tell us that Dak doesnt look easy. My eyes also tells me that he finds a way to win. He isnt going to ever make it pretty. If you need Aikman to feel comfortable then you will never get that from Dak. Will he need a supporting cast? Of course. Very few QB's to play this game if any don't need a supporting cast. I can't say we will or won't win a SB in the next few years. What I will say is that Dak won't be the reason if you don't win one. The coaching staff will be.

 

[OmerV]

People hate paying Crawford 10/m a year but want to hand Dak 30. We likely have 1 shot at a SB and that is now with the talent we have. It's doubtful we assemble this much talent again and less doubtful the more we pay Dak.

I'm thinking Crawford and Dak aren't exactly apples to apples.

A question I would ask you though is this … if you believe we only have one shot at a SB and that shot is now with the talent we have, how would it help that one shot to dump Dak and go with a draft pick that is more likely to be Blaine Gabbart or Paxton Lynch or Jake Locker than he is to be Pat Mahomes?

 

[JoeKing]

Pappy Hotdogs hmmmm tasty stuff.....hey guys I do not appear on that video and you might not like what these ex-players and reporters are saying concerning Dak and you feel the need to insult the Pappy but sometimes the truth hurts!
We give this QB of ours a huge contract we are R.I.P. for the next 3-5 years for reasons explained in the video!

Now keep them insults coming but it won't help Dak become a better QB.....or our Cowboys win our 6th Superbowl...

"6th Superbowl", you say that so dismissively.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Season 1 they built a offense around Dak's strengths, season they began to abandon it and revert to Linehan's base. Last year they were fully immersed in Linehans offense, and play calling, it sucked. This year we will go with a moving QB who excels throwing on the run, we will play action and use the heck out of counters and miss-direction.

Dak will be a top three QB, if Moore is a master play caller, we will stay on top for years to come.
Some will be using different identities as the year progresses.

LMAO!!!! Totally agree @noshame ! I can already see @PAPPYDOG change his name to DAKDOG or something like that and change his profile picture!

 

[charron]

I'm thinking Crawford and Dak aren't exactly apples to apples.

A question I would ask you though is this … if you believe we only have one shot at a SB and that shot is now with the talent we have, how would it help that one shot to dump Dak and go with a draft pick that is more likely to be Blaine Gabbart or Paxton Lynch or Jake Locker than he is to be Pat Mahomes?

Pat Mahomes and Dak aren't apple to apple either. I wouldn't dump him this year since he is under contract on a cheap deal. I wouldn't extend him. I'd wait to extend him or most likely franchise tag him. If he's worth top money now he should be worth top money next year.

 

[OmerV]

Pat Mahomes and Dak aren't apple to apple either. I wouldn't dump him this year since he is under contract on a cheap deal. I wouldn't extend him. I'd wait to extend him or most likely franchise tag him. If he's worth top money now he should be worth top money next year.

Mahomes wasn't meant to be apples to apples with Dak. I used Mahomes because I assume you wanted an upgrade rather than someone that would be the same or a lesser QB than Dak.

 

[DFWJC]

 

[charron]

Mahomes wasn't meant to be apples to apples with Dak. I used Mahomes because I assume you wanted an upgrade rather than someone that would be the same or a lesser QB than Dak.

I used Crawford because he is a good but not great player like Dak. Paying Dak will be similar, too exp to dump and no one else on the roster to do a better job.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I used Crawford because he is a good but not great player like Dak. Paying Dak will be similar, too exp to dump and no one else on the roster to do a better job.

Romo was good, not great, yet I'm sure you had no problem with him getting highly overpaid TWICE.... which cost the team.

 

[charron]

Romo was good, not great, yet I'm sure you had no problem with him getting highly overpaid TWICE.... which cost the team.

Yea how dare we pay a QB who can pass a ball. If you think we overpaid Romo just wait till this guy gets a new deal you'll love it and all the excuses he comes with.