News: Gregory to submit plan to NFL on Monday for reinstatement

[PAPPYDOG]

Well we need something different than the Day threads. So how about about another Gregory thread.

I been on the road the past week, so not sure when this came out or has been posted. It is about 3 days old.

https://1053thefan.radio.com/articl...instatement-nfl-monday-specific-proposed-plan

Let's Hope as Gregory has the talent base....

 

[speedkilz88]

I can tell you first hand that the Cowboys basically had a live in baby sitter watching RG while he was suspended. NO tmuch different than discussed in that article. I am wondering though, how the hell is his parents living with him supposed to help. Wasnt his childhodd total ****? Wasnt it those same parents that cause dit to be such crap yo begin with? so how are they supposed to help him get better?

Im rooting like hell for the guy. I got to sit with him for 4 hours watching football 2years ago and he was super friendly to us.

Maybe you are thinking of someone else. Gregory had an above average upbringing and the Cowboys didn't babysit him. He has had a friend live with him that was suppose to keep an eye on him.

 

[GenoT]

No, if the policy could be shown to be in violation, then the fact that an employee agreed to it still does not make it acceptable.

Obviously Gregory has to deal with the consequences of his actions within the existing rules. I assumed that was obvious and didn't require being stated.

Dez should have held onto the ball in 2014 and the refs wouldn't have been given the opportunity to screw up the call. Dez had to live with the consequences of his actions.

Regardless of Dez screwing up that does not mean it was a good rule or good call.

As I said before, it's a big picture issue.

Big picture means beyond the scope of Randy Gregory specifically.

“No, if the policy could be shown to be in violation, then the fact that an employee agreed to it still does not make it acceptable.”

“Shown to be in violation” of what, specifically? And, “does not make it acceptable” to whom, specifically?

The BIG picture is this: the current CBA, at the time of its signing and as long as it is in effect, was/is “acceptable” to both the NFL and the NFLPA — along with the AFL-CIO, which the NFLPA is a member of.

Perhaps you should take your argument to whomever (?) might find the current NFL drug policy to be unacceptable, and who might be capable of promptly alter the status quo.

 

[ClappingCarrot]

I'm all for Randy Gregory's re-entry into the league, but I really do not understand why we are making these motions literally a week and a half before training camp.

 

[Bullflop]

I hadn't been exposed to Randy's background and/or his specific mental issues before reading the OP's article. I was somewhat shocked to see the extent of his reported depressions and that they were intense enough to have him considering suicide in at least one point in his life. He's evidently someone who needs constant guidance and professional help to get by on a daily basis. Hence, it's why his parents have voluntarily come to Texas to help him in any way they can.

I'm pulling for him to overcome his deeply serious issues and am wishing his success. From the looks of things, his recovery promises to be a constant struggle for a good while to come. Here's wishing him strength and success in winning his battle to actually return to the playing field. Obviously, recovering physically promises to be a challenge in itself, for one who lost 40 lbs. since his last taste of action.

 

[BourbonBalz]

The rumor that I've heard a few times is that he missed a test as opposed to actually failing one.

They generally consider missed the same as failed but Gregory's issue occured in Feb. which is the off-season. I'm sure missed tests happen much more often in the off-season when players are away from the team structure.

I find the requirement to be tested in the off-season absurd.

When you’ve had as many drug related issues/suspensions as Gregory has had, you only miss a test for one reason and we all know that reason. Don’t tell me he forgot or just didn’t have the time. If he was truly clean there’s no way he’d miss a test unless he’s stupid beyond belief.

 

[glimmerman]

The rumor that I've heard a few times is that he missed a test as opposed to actually failing one.

They generally consider missed the same as failed but Gregory's issue occured in Feb. which is the off-season. I'm sure missed tests happen much more often in the off-season when players are away from the team structure.

I find the requirement to be tested in the off-season absurd.

Only if your in the drug program. For those that aren’t in the program your only tested for drugs once a year. If you pass then they don’t bother you again till next year. A random test between April and August. He got himself in it so bad that they can test him when ever they want for the rest of his time in the NFL. Maybe because he had t failed any and only missed 1 that goodell will have mercy.

 

[Patrick]

Can we just get rid of this whole 'suspended for marijuana' BS already? It's 2019.

Randy Gregory gets high and sits on his couch, meanwhile, Crawford gets loaded and gets into it with police, Zeke bumps a security guard (and has done more before this summer), and all the other times players have done stupid **** while drunk. Sure those guys will get suspended (or a warning), but assaulting someone is much worse than anything Gregory has ever done.

This isn't PEDs or something.

 

[Bullflop]

I'm all for Randy Gregory's re-entry into the league, but I really do not understand why we are making these motions literally a week and a half before training camp.

He's hoping to get a chance to participate in TC to get back to something resembling the player he once was. Evidently, from the looks of things, it's going to be a long and arduous struggle to return to football readiness. I'm definitely not expecting to see him take the field for anything meaningful anytime soon. Assuming he's reinstated, if he even somehow managed to return actively to the field by Thanksgiving, it would probably be considered an enormous victory of sorts, imho.

 

[Cowboys22]

I would like to submit my plan to Randy Gregory and here it is.

1. Stop smoking weed and doing anything else that causes the NFL to suspend you.

2. Work hard to finally realize all your immense potential and become a reliable member of the team.

3. Make more money than you ever imagined over the next 6-8 years helping Dallas win another Super Bowl or two.

4. Enjoy the rest of your life doing whatever the hell you want.

5. If you’re not up to doing 1-3, just go the hell away and quit wasting everyone’s time. Thank you.

 

[glimmerman]

He would be very very lucky if they let him play again.. Not sure about this year at all. At some point goodell will be tired of this.

 

[Reid1boys]

I’m not sure where you got his parents were or are the problem. I haven’t read that.

His dad was in the navy 7 years(submarine hunter), attended and played at northwestern, and was a successful business man in the medical consulting field. His promotions did cause him to move the family often, but it’s hard to fault him for that.

I don’t think his mom was the problem either.

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...boys-randy-gregory-talks-being-real-bad-place

I have never heard about his parents specifically. I just heard about how hoeeible his upbringing was, so I jumped to the next logical step.... horrible homelife growing up, horrible parents?

 

[Reid1boys]

Maybe you are thinking of someone else. Gregory had an above average upbringing and the Cowboys didn't babysit him. He has had a friend live with him that was suppose to keep an eye on him.

I did not know about his upbringing, just thought I read it was horrible and was a part of his issues.
Who was the "Friend?" ooops, yeah, uhm, they werent baby sitting him... thats agaisnt the rules, isnt it? I was mistaken, you are right, it was a friend of his...wink, wink

 

[Sydla]

Acquiring Robert Quinn makes me not really care.

Why was this plan not submitted months ago?

I am guessing they had to show some progress and steps he has taken on a path to recovery before submitting the plan. I mean if you are the league, are you more likely to accept a plan for reinstatement a week after being suspended or a few months where you've shown excellent progress?

 

[jazzcat22]

The rumor that I've heard a few times is that he missed a test as opposed to actually failing one.

They generally consider missed the same as failed but Gregory's issue occured in Feb. which is the off-season. I'm sure missed tests happen much more often in the off-season when players are away from the team structure.

I find the requirement to be tested in the off-season absurd.

That was what I heard a few months back, it was from a missed test. And we do not know the story or the reasoning behind that.

 

[BourbonBalz]

That was what I heard a few months back, it was from a missed test. And we do not know the story or the reasoning behind that.

LOL. Yeah, we do if we have a brain.

 

[jazzcat22]

I can tell you first hand that the Cowboys basically had a live in baby sitter watching RG while he was suspended. NO tmuch different than discussed in that article. I am wondering though, how the hell is his parents living with him supposed to help. Wasnt his childhodd total ****? Wasnt it those same parents that cause dit to be such crap yo begin with? so how are they supposed to help him get better?

Im rooting like hell for the guy. I got to sit with him for 4 hours watching football 2years ago and he was super friendly to us.

Why blame the parents or his childhood. Maybe it started in high school or in college. As many kids do regardless of their upbringing or perceived social class.

 

[CATCH17]

LOL. Yeah, we do if we have a brain.

I think he’s suggesting he could’ve missed a test and still been clean.

I think Fisher floated that around but I could be mistaking.

 

[jazzcat22]

I'm all for Randy Gregory's re-entry into the league, but I really do not understand why we are making these motions literally a week and a half before training camp.

I believe it has to do with the league down time. They did this last year too. Had to wait to submit the paper work when the league year started or was about to start.

 

[BourbonBalz]

I think he’s suggesting he could’ve missed a test and still been clean.

I think Fisher floated that around but I could be mistaking.

LOL. Anybody that believes that should be checked for brain damage. If it’s a fact that he missed a test, there’s only two possible reasons. One, he knew he was going to fail it (this is 99.999% the reason). Two, he’s the absolute dumbest person on earth. There’s NO reason to miss a test if he was clean. Being in the program, he knows a missed test is just as bad as a failed test. If he was clean (LOL) and still missed the test he’s an absolute moron.