Dak Prescott vs. Tony Romo

[NotForLong]

I have always stated Prescott is blameless in the matter. Neither Prescott nor Romo were the decision makers in the matter. The matter was decided by Jones (mostly in my opinion) and Garrett. Any and all blame I have extended from October 2016 to today has been directed to those two individuals and only those two individuals.

Amen

 

[NotForLong]

If Romo does not get hurt then Dak never shows his potential as a leader and win games as the Cowboys QB which were the deciding factors that kept Romo on the bench. So I would have to disagree with you. I don't blame the team for that decision either because the previous 2 seasons Romo got hurt and the odds were clearly that Romo would get hurt again. You cant mess up the chemistry in that situation on a Romo that is only legal, regular sack away from yet letting your team down again....not on purpose of course.

This is the reason Romo never got his job back. It was the National Narrative and all the Delusional Cowboy Fans drank the Koolaid.

The argument itself is nonsensical. . . Chemistry? It was Tony's team it was built for Him . . . Injured again? How could that even be a factor . . . Just throw Dak back in

 

[NotForLong]

JJ loves Romo. He is family to the Jones. If JJ wanted Romo to have his job back then it would have happened.

A - JJ let JG make the decision because JJ could look good either way.

B - The organization was truly worried about the health of Romo after so many injuries and most being in the lower back. They didn’t want to see him end up in a wheel chair. He would have competed until he couldn’t walk anymore.

They wouldn’t let him compete for his job back. What about 2017. Were they going to let him compete in TC for his job back or was that it. JG telling him sorry Romo but we are moving on permanent. If they let him compete in TC he would have beaten Dak and took his job back.

I love this Narrative . . . We sacrificed Winning a Super Bowl in 2016 because Romo was gonna die.

 

[NotForLong]

Well the thing is Romo never got a chance to compete for his job , IMO he should have been given a couple of games, when they were at 8-1
to see how he did with that team, and having elliot. They had a big lead, and chances are at worse Tony would have gone 1-1 , and then they could properly evaluate Tony and Dak. And then use that to see who they wanted to start in the rest of the games.
I was a big dak fan, starting in PS, I had the QB competition thread where I got blasted for suggesting Dak could be the starter for the cowboys.
I was on the Dak train once tony got hurt, but later on I wanted to see Tony play again once he was ready in week 10 or so.
But he only got the brief appearance in the last game , and looked good, but that wasnt enough.
I still think Tony might have beat GB, as he matched up better with them than Dak did.
But I am ok with dak at qb, he is lacking in areas, but he is all we have for the near future, and he has his good points too.

Back in 2016 I got the impression that most of the players liked Dak better than Tony, and they would play better for Dak than they might Tony.
Dez though wanted Tony back.

That's why I love Dez and Witten can go suck an egg

 

[408Cowboy]

Dak now takes the blame for alot of things that were never in his control as a rookie, it's human nature because we all wanted to see how the story for Romo could have ended and we were all robbed of that. It's my take on the entire situation

I'm perfectly fine with the way it turned out. Dak has lead the team just as far as Romo has twice in 3 seasons. Romo's time was over he's accepted it and it's time his die-hard fans do the same.

 

[NotForLong]

As golf has evolved over the last two decades, the golf swing has become more powerful. To keep up, modern-era professional golf players participate in intensive strength-training sessions. And the techniques of the swing have also changed. During the downswing, greater compressive force is directed toward the spinal disc and facet joints, and this affects these structures asymmetrically. With more than 300 swings per golf-playing day, the golfer repeatedly experiences minor traumatic injuries to the spine, which over time can result in a pathogenic process that the authors have termed "repetitive traumatic discopathy" (RTD).

- Walker CT, Uribe JS, Porter RW. Golf: a contact sport. Repetitive traumatic discopathy may be the driver of early lumbar degeneration in modern-era golfers. J Neurosurg Spine, 2019 DOI: 10.3171/2018.10.SPINE181113

Spinal Injuries Romo Sustained During His NFL Career

• Herniated Disk - December 22, 2013
• Transverse Process Fracture - October 27, 2014
• L1 Vertebra Compression Fracture - August 25, 2016

The above trauma episodes are extremely likely to have been thoroughly diagnosed by highly qualified spinal specialists and talked about at length with Romo and the franchise front office. The lifelong impact and necessary precautions for optimal back health would have been completely discussed. If the severity of the documented injuries were as extreme as to potentially lead to possible paralysis, Romo would have been counseled against continuing to play golf, a sport known for decades exacerbate back related trauma.

Logically, the overall trauma Romo suffered from back injuries was not as severe as observers state. Significant? Yes. All injuries necessitating surgery are significant in nature. Life debilitating? No. Sound rationalization suggests the repeated opinion stated as fact--by some members of the media, sports fans, etc.-- that Romo risked paralysis due to tackling is a self-perpetuating fallacy.

No one 'saved' Romo from anything. "Paralyzed Romo" is a widely held assumption more likely existing as a largely held falsehood and less likely to be an actual truth.

The Media talking heads ( Cowboys & Romo Haters) pushed that narrative and the Billable Fan base bought it hook line and sinker. National talking point encouraged the dumbest logic I ever seen in my life . . . Start a Rookie over one of the most incredible football minds ever

 

[NotForLong]

Logically Tony was probably cautioned about golf but he and the rest of the football playing world know that the golf swing and being smashed to the ground at crazy angles under 300 lb men are 2 different things .

Facts are his injuries happened while playing football not golf . Excuse me I mean Trauma Episodes . Glad to know breaking your back has been relegated down to a trauma episode Sheesh!!

Fact is Tony Romo is one of the most competitive guys on the planet and would love to have a SB Ring

Fact is if Tonys back was NFL sound he would be helping some team get to the SB right now.

Fact is after a Disk and 2 fractures Paralyzed Romo is a very real possibility that Tony and his family do not feel is worth the risk . and I consider Jerry and Jason family to him . If it was he would jump out of the booth and join his good friend in search of that ring .

Its more than a widely held assumption its facts to most of the world except the few here that were so emotionally invested in Tony that they wanted to get every last ounce from his career no matter the risk . Jerry and Jason gave Tony time to think and he did the right thing for himself and his family .

Jerry dicked him around after 2016. . .they wouldn't release him. . . Then CBS came in sweeped him up. . .

 

[NotForLong]

IMO the real reason this controversy or argument over Dak and Romo exists is because the Cowboys by not allowing Tony to reclaim (or at the very least at lease like he asked for compete to get his starting job back) the team took away the chance alot of fans wanted for Romo to get the storybook ending for his career. WE all know that with Zeke added to the offense in 2016 we should have been an unstoppable team and while our D was only middle of the road that season they were good enough combined with our offense to win it all. Romo really is the only reason the Cowboys were even relevant as a team the last 5 years he was playing, he took a pounding he played hurt , he never ever got a call from the refs for roughing the passer and he never complained. There was no way the team was going to play worse with Romo getting his starting job back in 2016, could he have gotten hurt again? Of course, but if you are trying to win you play your best players when they are healthy and as well as Dak played as a rookie Romo was still the better QB and he should have been playing. I will go to my grave believing we would have beaten GB in the playoffs that year with Romo as our starter, do we win the SB after that? who knows but i believe Tony deserved that last chance to win it and the team took it away from him and away from the fans. They saw how Dak played they could have made the decision to go with him after the season and i don't think anyone would have been upset (or at least not as many). Just remember that offense in 2016 was built for Romo in 2016 not Dak, if your being serious about it who do you think it would have run better under? A rookie? (even as well as he played) or the 10 year starter 4 time pro-bowl QB starting QB who the offense was built for? The decision by the Cowboys hurt them with alot of fans and it also hurt Dak with alot of fans. Dak now takes the blame for alot of things that were never in his control as a rookie, it's human nature because we all wanted to see how the story for Romo could have ended and we were all robbed of that. It's my take on the entire situation

Can't believe I am the 1st to like this. . . what's wrong with you people

 

[G2]

The staff was ready to move on from Romo. He couldn't stay on the field, why take the chance and hurt the offense with him missing MORE game time?

 

[glimmerman]

I love this Narrative . . . We sacrificed Winning a Super Bowl in 2016 because Romo was gonna die.

I just think that the FO said if he is hurt like that one more time then they would move on. And Dak and the team being in such a winning streak made it a easier decision. I don’t think they were going to let him compete for his job even the next season. Romo was down to only practicing bare minimum. He couldn’t take much more.

 

[NotForLong]

I just think that the FO said if he is hurt like that one more time then they would move on. And Dak and the team being in such a winning streak made it a easier decision. I don’t think they were going to let him compete for his job even the next season. Romo was down to only practicing bare minimum. He couldn’t take much more.

All I am saying is you believed a lie to justify supporting a rookie over one of the Best QB's in the league. You drank the Dak Kool Aid in 2016 and justified the absurdity with this created Narrative.

 

[G2]

All I am saying is you believed a lie to justify supporting a rookie over one of the Best QB's in the league. You drank the Dak Kool Aid in 2016 and justified the absurdity with this created Narrative.

Yeah, but that's what happened. He couldn't stay healthy. The team was playing well together and winning. Why mess that up? Romo passed the baton.

 

[NotForLong]

Yeah, but that's what happened. He couldn't stay healthy. The team was playing well together and winning. Why mess that up? Romo passed the baton.

Because he was healthy and the team would have performed better with Romo

 

[G2]

Because he was healthy and the team would have performed better with Romo

That's complete and 100% speculation. I get the loyalty, but at some point conjecture should be recognized for what it is.

 

[glimmerman]

All I am saying is you believed a lie to justify supporting a rookie over one of the Best QB's in the league. You drank the Dak Kool Aid in 2016 and justified the absurdity with this created Narrative.

It’s just my opinion. Got nothing to do with Dak other than when a rookie can take a team to 13-3 and if they played the last game would have been 14-2 and go to the playoffs then it makes it easier to move on from a aging but great QB. They were going to have to find his replacement soon enough and Dak fell into there laps.

Do I think Romo would have made the team better than Dak in 2016. Yes, it could have been our year.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Since the extremists seem to post more often than others, I just want to say, "There is no conflict in being a fan of BOTH Dak Prescott AND Tony Romo.

Watching Romo magic was the most enjoyable part of watching the Cowboys from 2006 - 2014. It is a shame the team was never as good as him. Watching old videos of him eluding tackles to get off a pass downfield never gets old, just like watching Emmitt Smith highlights never gets old. Tony only really had two opportunities in his career to get to the Super Bowl - 2007 and 2014. Unfortunately, the team came up short both times - in 2007 because of extraordinarily inept coaching by Wade Phillip's, and in 2014 because of a DeMarco Murray fumble, and a missed field goal.

Dak Prescott EXPLODED onto the NFL landscape with the single best rookie QB performance in the 100 year history of the league. It just doesn't get any better than Dak in 2016, as far as being a rookie. And like the gentleman he is, even Tony acknowledged that Dak EARNED the starting QB position. Even in defeat to the Packers, Dak's performance as a rookie in the playoffs was epic. But as with Tony in 2014, the defense in 2016 wasted a great QB performance. Dak has all the intangibles you look for in a QB. And he is still young and improving. He had a bad 16 game stretch in the second half of 2017, and the first half of 2018. But the last half of 2018 shows that his rookie year was no fluke. The Cowboys were 7-1 down the stretch last year, and Dak was a big reason why.

Tony proved that no QB can win a championship on his own. But the front office has done a better job this time surrounding their young QB with talent. The future is promising.

I am a huge fan of Tony Romo, AND a big fan of Dak Prescott. And I honestly believe that most Cowboys fans love both players, and are sick and tired of the verbal snipers who try to force us to choose one or the other. I choose BOTH. I refuse to be drawn into the argument of who is better. Tony's time was great for fans, and now it is Dak's time.

One last comment: More than any other NFL team, the Cowboys have enjoyed an extraordinary succession of talented starting quarterbacks. 1 year with poor talent as an expansion team --> Don Meredith --> Craig Morton --> Roger Staubach --> Danny White --> Troy Aikman --> 5 years in the desert --> Tony Romo --> Dak Prescott. In 60 seasons of play, the team has only suffered through 6 seasons of sub-par talent at the most important position on the field. Instead of griping and complaining, we should be thankful. No other team had enjoyed such a succession of talent.

Perfectly stated and I am huge fan of both. I defended Romo for 10 years against the haters and I am doing the same thing with Dak.

There is no stopping it. You basically get a set of clueless cry babies that dont understand QB play and its relation to things like Oline, and the talent around them, scheme, coaching, ect...ect...

We are also blessed with the era of the best QB in NFL history in Brady. Every cry baby wants a Tom Brady and thinks its the ONLY way to win a championship.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Cut the kid some slack. He is still younger than Romo, Staubach, or Danny White were when they became starting QB's, and he has 3 years of experience under his belt. I interpret his answer to mean that he wants the best for him AND his teammates. That sentiment will HELP him in the locker room, and the Cowboys brass is smart enough to not take offense. Dak gets paid to play QB, not manager the salary CAP. That is Stephen Jones's job, and he's been doing pretty good for a while now.

These critics have been saying "Dak has warts" since his 2nd season. Like these types don't understand QB development and improvement.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

That's complete and 100% speculation. I get the loyalty, but at some point conjecture should be recognized for what it is.

I just don't get people that Think Romo could have come back and not got hurt again. If it wasn't for Dak we would have lost 2 whole seasons because of Tony's injuries. Any good defense would have knocked Tony down hard to get him out of the game.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Human nature. That was the original Dakster group, the Romorooters. They were overjoyed when Romo didn't get his job back, made that acceptance speech endorsing their guy and then left the team. They had blamed him for everything wrong with the team.

Now, the shoe is on the other foot and they find themselves in defense mode and playing that "can't we all get along" card. And I am not singling them out, both sides are guilty of taking it too far.

And somewhere in the middle of the melee is us. The ones that realize we do not choose the QB, he is chosen for us and all the offense or defense isn't going to change that. We either accept that guy and try to make the best of it because anything else is just a waste of time. Unless some just need something to argue about.

I wasn't here when he played but I know on DC.com ii got out of control. More posters getting time outs because they couldn't keep from getting into a personal cat fight over a millionaire QB. I am sure he appreciates all those that caught timeouts defending him. But I must admit, it sure was fun to watch them go at it. And, OK, I gotta come clean. Sometimes when I felt it was getting a little too quiet, I might place a time bomb and light the fuse.

And jumbo might have just done that here by taking the middle ground. Blessed are the peace keepers because both sides will turn on them like rabid dogs.

And then you get types that it was obvious early on how great both of these QB's were going to be.

Personally, I was a huge Romo fan. But it was clear early on that Dak was the future and he had what it took. That was proven the first year.

Romo physically, was toast and the team simply wasn't good enough to win a title in 2016. I was amazed they went as far as Dak took them. Romo wouldn't have won a championship that year either. Ultimately, the Cowboys lost for the same reason against GB as they did when Romo was there. Horrid coaching and game management by Garrett led to a final collapse by the defense with Rogers.

THAT being said a young QB needs to mature and grow. Go through growing pains. Even a guy like Dak with his rookie season was not ready. It takes a QB typically 3 or 4 years. And the fact that we started Dak so early gives us shot to do something in these next couple of years. Had we played Romo another two years that would NOT be the case. THATS why I was all for sticking with Dak.

 

[NotForLong]

That's complete and 100% speculation. I get the loyalty, but at some point conjecture should be recognized for what it is.

its only speculation because the idiots that ran this team refused to have an open competition. When Romo played in 2016 he went through the Eagles defense like a hot knife through butter even T. Williams looked good.

Its not "Loyalty" its simple Math. Have you seen a broadcast where Romo calls out the play before it happens? Could Dak do that? Would that Ability alone make Romo better then Dak? If Rpmo is better then Dak, does that not prove the Cowboys Would Have been a better team with Romo in the game and Dak on the bench.

Ok so stop with the BS and keep it