Props to Jason Garrett

[plasticman]

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garrett is no tom landry not in any ones wildest dreams

Tom Landry was no Tom Landry until the Cowboys won Super Bowl 6. Until then he was the coach who couldn't win "The Big One". Last second losses in NFL Championships against the Packers created that perception. Sound familiar?

We won't know who or what Jason is until he is fairly judged by the entirety of his career, a work still in progress at this point in time.

 

[morat1959]

We both want Superbowl wins. You’re just blaming the wrong factors for why we haven’t gotten them recently.

Recently???? What’s your definition of recently? I’m identifying one of the main factors...the lame duck coach. It’s not the biggest factor however. That lies squarely on the shoulders of a GM who’s had no clue what he’s doing the past 23 years. I’ll never understand your logic on clappy. I can’t wait to hear your reasoning on why the owner/ wanna be GM is not the problem.

 

[morat1959]

I just can’t belive some on here are comparing clappy to Landry. What world do y’all wake up in every morning? We’ve won 2 games in this season and now clappy is Landry and JJ is Tex?
I want some of what y’all are on.

 

[Idgit]

Recently???? What’s your definition of recently? I’m identifying one of the main factors...the lame duck coach. It’s not the biggest factor however. That lies squarely on the shoulders of a GM who’s had no clue what he’s doing the past 23 years. I’ll never understand your logic on clappy. I can’t wait to hear your reasoning on why the owner/ wanna be GM is not the problem.

I was thinking about Garrett’s time as HC when I said recently. You’re wrong. About the coaching issues, but what makes you think I’m going to say the owner/GM has not been part of the “advancing in the playoffs” problem?

 

[morat1959]

I was thinking about Garrett’s time as HC when I said recently. You’re wrong. About the coaching issues, but what makes you think I’m going to say the owner/GM has not been part of the “advancing in the playoffs” problem?

Your logic on clappy geared me straight to that question. There’s no defending the puppet. He is what he is. Any coach willing to stay with JJ for 10 years can only be and will always be a puppet. A front man! This is not a sarcastic question. Are you kin to Garrett, friends or on the staff. There’s no other way you can defend him. Or.......your just pulling my chain because you know and see exactly what I do.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

LOL...…..your not a fan of Garrett? Neither am I. Yet you stick up for him like you love the guy. Puzzling.

Idgiot claims he doesn't think Garrett is a great coach, yet his signature says otherwise.

Let's be honest. Your just a couple of trolls that like to defend average and incompetence. Talk about pathetic.

99% of the fan base wants Garrett fired.

I don't stick up for him. I don't hate him like you do. I presented actual verifiable facts which you seem to have taken offense too.

I don't think he is as bad as his haters make him to be. I don't hate him. I do t use childish exames like not qualified to coach peewee, etc. He has been better than some and worse than some. Middle of the pack.

You obviously have a big hatred and anger toward him and in some of your responses it almost feels you are making it personal.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Facts like Garrett used to be OC and play caller and now he isn't? Facts like Jerry told Garrett to stay out of the way and let Moore do his thing?

Perception like the perception that Garrett sucks at being an OC and play caller?

Emotion like you sticking for a coach your not a fan of?

Seems like you read only what you want and then stop.

But how many times have we heard Jerry make claims and say things.....but it seems we take his word for what supports our opinion and dismiss the rest.

It's Jerry after all. You filter most of what he says.

Did u believe when he said he doesn't need Zeke and played hardball....

I mean Jerry said it afterall

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

With the talent he had? Seriously.

What is wrong with people on this forum?

What talent and when?

And again as I have said he has failed in post season and at the end of the day we want success in post season

 

[CowboyRoy]

I don't stick up for him. I don't hate him like you do. I presented actual verifiable facts which you seem to have taken offense too.

I don't think he is as bad as his haters make him to be. I don't hate him. I do t use childish exames like not qualified to coach peewee, etc. He has been better than some and worse than some. Middle of the pack.

You obviously have a big hatred and anger toward him and in some of your responses it almost feels you are making it personal.

I am a devoted and passionate Cowboys fan. Garrett has held this team back for a long time. Even Jerry said a few years ago how we have all suffered with Garrett's learning on the job mistakes.

He has also bumbled the offense far too long. Jerry FINALLY got smart and got someone in here to handle the offense over Garrett. The results are early, but they are amazing and also damning of Garrett.

Its actually comical. Both you and IDGIT and JoeKing are his 3 biggest defenders on here. ONly defenders on here. And when pressed, all 3 of you say that the guy is pretty much average as a HC.

Why is even average good enough for our team? Going from Garrett to Linehan to Moore has made all the difference.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Seems like you read only what you want and then stop.

But how many times have we heard Jerry make claims and say things.....but it seems we take his word for what supports our opinion and dismiss the rest.

It's Jerry after all. You filter most of what he says.

Did u believe when he said he doesn't need Zeke and played hardball....

I mean Jerry said it afterall

Jerry says some things for posturing and will exaggerate for sales purposes. It was a strong message to Garrett and obvious. The only other benefit would be to let people know AGAIN who is really in charge in Dallas.

Why exactly are you trying to brush that statement off? Did it seem to you like he was BSing?

 

[Idgit]

Your logic on clappy geared me straight to that question. There’s no defending the puppet. He is what he is. Any coach willing to stay with JJ for 10 years can only be and will always be a puppet. A front man! This is not a sarcastic question. Are you kin to Garrett, friends or on the staff. There’s no other way you can defend him. Or.......your just pulling my chain because you know and see exactly what I do.

This probably seemed like a good idea to post at the time, didn't it?

Let's just leave our previous posts to sink or swim on their own merit.

 

[morat1959]

This probably seemed like a good idea to post at the time, didn't it?

Let's just leave our previous posts to sink or swim on their own merit.

Don’t give up on me? I was just getting warmed up.

 

[Idgit]

Don’t give up on me? I was just getting warmed up.

Maybe I should wait until you're all the way heated-up, then.

 

[morat1959]

Maybe I should wait until you're all the way heated-up, then.

That’s weak. What would it take for you to admit not just Garrett but any head coach is a major contributor to a team winning SBs. Lots of coaches win games.

 

[Idgit]

That’s weak. What would it take for you to admit not just Garrett but any head coach is a major contributor to a team winning SBs. Lots of coaches win games.

Of course I’d agree with that.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Tom Landry was no Tom Landry until the Cowboys won Super Bowl 6. Until then he was the coach who couldn't win "The Big One". Last second losses in NFL Championships against the Packers created that perception. Sound familiar?

We won't know who or what Jason is until he is fairly judged by the entirety of his career, a work still in progress at this point in time.

Is that a joke? We have had 10 years as HC and 4 years as OC. Are you incapable of making an analysis unless a guy wins a SB?

Garrett is sub par. And one thing we know for certain. They cant even make the NFC championship game with Garrett calling plays. That much has been proven.

 

[Diehardblues]

I am a devoted and passionate Cowboys fan. Garrett has held this team back for a long time. Even Jerry said a few years ago how we have all suffered with Garrett's learning on the job mistakes.

He has also bumbled the offense far too long. Jerry FINALLY got smart and got someone in here to handle the offense over Garrett. The results are early, but they are amazing and also damning of Garrett.

Its actually comical. Both you and IDGIT and JoeKing are his 3 biggest defenders on here. ONly defenders on here. And when pressed, all 3 of you say that the guy is pretty much average as a HC.

Why is even average good enough for our team? Going from Garrett to Linehan to Moore has made all the difference.

The person you need to ask is Jerry and his boy wonder son Stephen why Garrett is here.

Once you come to grips with that reality then you can begin to arrive at a better evaluation of the situation.

Ultimately it’s Jerry whose held this franchise back. The rest is a product of his dysfunction.

 

[Beast_from_East]

It's irrelevant how many years he's had. He's gotten the years on the job because his boss believes he's doing a good job. You don't have to like it, and it isn't relevant how many years other people get in their jobs.

As far as building the team goes, when it comes to doing the things that coaches are supposed to do, we've had a contending team going back to 2014. You just don't want to admit it. If I could wake you up, I would. Maybe this is our year and we win it all and you'll open up your eyes and come over to the light. And by that I mean give all the credit to McClay or Kellen Moore or tell me how Jason Garrett finally learned to get out of the way, or whatever theory will let you reconcile the teams steady and obvious improvement with the fact you've believe the coach was the blocking issue the whole time they were improving right in front of your face.

I just find it odd that every head coach in NFL history that won a SB did so before their 9th season with their team.

So you are telling me that Garrett is going to do something no other head coach in NFL history has done?

The truth of the matter, wherever you want to admit it or not, is that Garrett would have been fired for his record if it was any other team but Dallas. His leash has been longer than what anybody else in the league gets, and I think you know that. The fact that he is the longest tenured head coach in the NFL to not take his team to a SB kinda proves it.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The same month in 2011 that Jason Garrett became permanent Head Coach he described in detail how he was going to build the team and the events after that day match his statements.

From acquiring the “right kind” of player to establishing a drafting philosophy based on value to the creation of close knit squads through strong competition this team has been built according to that blueprint.

Building a long term winning team is very volatile chemistry and it doesn’t happen overnight but when it happens it is also the result of being in the proper environment. Jason Garrett built that environment. He created the culture that allowed this team to be created.

Winning teams aren’t all about talent. It’s about playing for the guys that line up with you. It’s about sacrifice, it’s about hard work and it’s about preparation. It’s about a willingness to be taught and Jason Garrett is the ultimate teacher. Some of you only see the hands clapping but it is Jason applauding a player that has used something he learned from the coaching.

Don’t you think Jason had something to do with Kellen Moore’s rise to OC? Of course he did, that is what Head Coaches do, they teach and cultivate their assistant coaches. Where do you think Kellen learned the nuances of coaching in professional football, in a college course?

The best thing that could happen for the Cowboys would be for them to win a Super Bowl, Jerry steps down, and Stephen promotes Jason Garrett to GM. Who do you suppose he would choose as his replacement for Head Coach?​

I think everybody knows it takes time to build a championship caliber team, it doesn't happen overnight as you say. However, the freaking pyramids in Egypt were built faster than this roster.

Jason Garrett is the longest tenured head coach in the NFL to not take his team to a SB, that is a fact. Everybody else in the league that has had a similar record to Garrett's has been fired, another fact. He is a slightly better version of Marvin Lewis, playoff caliber teams on a regular basis but cant win jack in the playoffs.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Because I believe he’s the greatest puppet we could hope for. His process is slow but effective. This is the best culture we’ve had this era. Garrett’s contributions go well beyond Game Day.

If you can’t appreciate where we’ve come as a franchise since he took over that’s on you. I’m not here to convince you.

You are right, I should be more appreciative of those 2 wildcard wins over the past decade, I mean that is the type of stuff that gets you into Canton.