Underrated part of the game

[Sydla]

Plain and simple fumbles , penalties negating critical plays. Poor execution period, gets you beat. It's just 1 game

Suspect game plans, conservative play calling also gets you beat.

 

[Runwildboys]

11 minutes to go and the Saints pick up a holding penalty that puts them in a 1st and 20.

An elite defense doesn't allow a team with a backup QB to get that first down. But we did. And allowed the Saints to basically chew 5-6 minutes off the clock.

I hate how we play defense at times in certain situations. I know, we are effective, but we are too conservative for our own good at times.

1st and 20, we give up 6 yards on a screen. Not bad. But then the next play is what drives me ******* crazy with Richard and Marinelli. We drop into our patented deep zone and give up an easy 8 yard pass to a TE with no one around him. That gives the Saints a manageable 3rd and 6.

We don't seem to challenge any short passes. We seem content to just sit back, give the completion and hope Smith, LVE, Lee or Thomas come up, make the tackle and we live to see another day. Good teams will exploit that and take the 6-7 yards and just work their way down the field against us.

Just a rant about a particular part of the game that frustrated me. You can't give up a first down in that situation. Just can't.

Especially with Bridgewater. On 1st and 20, we should've attacked. On 2nd and 14, we should've blitzed hard.

 

[Dre11]

Suspect game plans, conservative play calling also gets you beat.

Who runs the gameplan? There were plays there tonight that were called back and fumbled away, killing drives by the players poor execution. Period

 

[Wolfpack]

It’s how the defense is designed, to take away the big play and force you to march the field. Which was exactly the Saints game plan, play ball control and limit the time Dallas offense has the ball.

This makes you really appreciate the patriots defense which is basically re-designed each week based on what they want to take away.

The Saints where not going to ask Bridgewater to go deep all game, that should have been obvious.

 

[CF74]

4 FG’s but couldn’t stop the run up the middle....


We need a Real 1-Tech

We need a Real 1-Tech

We need a Real 1-Tech

We need a Real 1-Tech

We need a Real 1-Tech

 

[Sydla]

Who runs the gameplan? There were plays there tonight that were called back and fumbled away, killing drives by the players poor execution. Period

The coach runs the game plan. He makes calls based on what he thinks the defense will do. If you make the wrong call against a certain defense, you pay. You claim to have this background in coaching but it's bizarre that you often act that it doesn't really matter what a coach calls because it should work.

Did the team make mistakes? Sure. But only a fool lidoesn't admit that Moore got a little bit of a lesson tonight. He was outcoached by the defensive staff of New Orleans.

 

[Dre11]

The coach runs the game plan. He makes calls based on what he thinks the defense will do.

Did the team make mistakes? Sure. But only a fool like yourself doesn't admit that Moore got a lesson tonight. He was outcoached by the defensive staff of New Orleans.

The coach ain't out on the field, how the he'll are they running the gameplan, you need help. Your players make the gameplan work. And they didn't drop passes, fumbles, a host of critical penalties,

 

[Pantone282C]

Scouting report on Bridgewater was he hasnt thrown it deep we shouldnt have been giving him the underneath stuff

Mushy defensive schemes don't win championships or games against the Saints!

 

[Pantone282C]

Or the Rams...

 

[Fredbeard]

Dude, the defense gave up 12 points? When a defense holds a team to under 17pts that should be a win. The offense and special teams needed to do more. The team has to put the game behind them and prepare for the next one.
Go Dallas!!!

But the saints offense ranked twenty first before tonight's game? Was it good defense or bad offense?

 

[Sydla]

The coach ain't out on the field, how the he'll are they running the gameplan, you need help. Your players make the gameplan work. And they didn't drop passes, fumbles, a host of critical penalties,

Who calls the plays? Who puts the game plan into motion utilizing play sheets and other data gathered during the game to make adjustments, call different plays, etc?

It's downright bizarre how you think coaching doesn't matter. That it's almost impossible for a coach to get outcoached by another coach in a game.

You tried to argue this same bizarre crap when we clearly got outcoached in that Rams game and it was well documented in the press after the game how our defensive coaches got schooled.

 

[links18]

Collinsworth pointed out: With the way Bridgewater plays, he is going to have to complete three passes here. Well, he did it. Way too soft on defense at criticla times, even if we only gave up 12 points. We needed to only give up 9 with how cruddy the offense was.

 

[Dre11]

Who calls the plays? Who puts the game plan into motion utilizing play sheets and other data gathered during the game to make adjustments, call different plays, etc?

It's downright bizarre how you think coaching doesn't matter. That it's almost impossible for a coach to get outcoached by another coach in a game.

You tried to argue this same bizarre crap when we clearly got outcoached in that Rams game and it was well documented in the press after the game how our defensive coaches got schooled.

Dummy, calling a damn play dont make a play work, my grandmother can call a play. The players make it works. Getting beat by your man, fumbling, or penalties have nothing to do with a gameplan.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Teddy was held to 6.4 YPA.
Kamara was held to 4.05 YPC.
No one on the Saints scored a TD.
The defense got a pick and generated 5 sacks.

By any account, they had a good night.

If we're playing the blame game, I think the unit that let us down most was the OL.

 

[StarBoyz83]

We know the defense for sure isnt elite. They're below average so far. Dont think Dallas has had more then 2-3 good defenses since the 90s. They've been a huge let down this year

 

[Sydla]

Dummy, calling a damn play dont make a play work, my grandmother can call a play. The players make it works. Getting beat by your man, fumbling, or penalties have nothing to do with a gameplan.

You are a fool. Sure players make plays work but this bizarrely idiotic theory you have where a coach can never have a bad game plan or call a bad play or get outcoached is hilarious.

In your world, a coach can never have a bad game plan or call a bad set of plays. It's always the players fault.

That's idiotic. But then again you once claimed Garrett could basically replicate what Belicheck has done if he had been in NE. That explains a lot.

 

[Sydla]

Teddy was held to 6.4 YPA.
Kamara was held to 4.05 YPC.
No one on the Saints scored a TD.
The defense got a pick and generated 5 sacks.

By any account, they had a good night.

If we're playing the blame game, I think the unit that let us down most was the OL.

No one is blaming them for the loss.

I am just pointing out a situation in the game where they needed to come up with a play and failed. How you let a Teddy Bridgewater offense convert a 1st and 20 in that situation is a questionable but ties back in with how this defense seems to be content to allow easy catches over the middle of the field.

 

[Dre11]

You are a fool. Sure players make plays work but this bizarrely idiotic theory you have where a coach can never have a bad game plan or call a bad play or get outcoached is hilarious.

In your world, a coach can never have a bad game plan or call a bad set of plays. It's always the players fault.

That's idiotic. But then again you once claimed Garrett could basically replicate what Belicheck has done if he had been in NE. That explains a lot.

Again, sit on your damn couch and leave football to real football people. Any coach or player will tell you a gameplan means nothing if your player don't execute. It's obvious you never played, coached , or touch a ball. Simple

 

[mattjames2010]

Dude, the defense gave up 12 points? When a defense holds a team to under 17pts that should be a win. The offense and special teams needed to do more. The team has to put the game behind them and prepare for the next one.
Go Dallas!!!

You left out the part where the D allowed the offense to chew up clock. Our offense was garbage as well, but our D had it's fair share of problems.

It was clear what the Saints were going for in this game, they weren't particularly interested with trying to put 40 points on us, they had our offense figured out - so they gameplanned to drain the clock. Our D simply didn't make plays outside of the first quarter.

 

[Dre11]

You are a fool. Sure players make plays work but this bizarrely idiotic theory you have where a coach can never have a bad game plan or call a bad play or get outcoached is hilarious.

In your world, a coach can never have a bad game plan or call a bad set of plays. It's always the players fault.

That's idiotic. But then again you once claimed Garrett could basically replicate what Belicheck has done if he had been in NE. That explains a lot.

What's a bad play? Do you even know?.... lol