Twitter: Since 2017, Dak is 5-9 vs winning teams

HungryLion

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by outsiders, nope. And when we are talking about the performance on OFFENSE, they clearly point to Dak. Because they see the speed of Cooper and Gallup on the outside, a top ranked OL and a premiere RB who is now obviously facing the effects of having to carry such a huge workload over a one read QB.

All throughout the beginning of the year, we’ve heard how Dallas undefeated at home ever since getting Cooper.

The next time Garret or our defense are actually top tier will the the first in a long time too.

As somebody who is a clear Romo historian perhaps you should have better recognition of the fact that Garret and the defense have also been holding us back for years.
 

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Name a QB this season that has only played winning teams? Why is it other QBs get a pass for their stats, even against bad teams but Dak doesn't get that treatment.

It's not about giving any QB a pass. It's about simply trying to be as fair as possible here and be as rational as possible.

Dak has great stats thus far. He looked great the first three games. But if one wants to be honest here, those first three opponents were total dogs. We have now played two teams in a row that are playoff caliber and he's not looked nearly as sharp or good.

Why is it invalid to note that in this discussion?
 

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Dak has only been in the league 3 full seasons and only got 2 chances in the playoffs, in which he did win against the Seahawks. Not only that but look at Peyton Manning and how long it took him to get a playoff win much less go on a run. Look at Rodgers and Ryan and how long it took them and Rodgers or Ryan hasn't done crap in the playoffs since they went to the Superbowl. Luck didn't have the mental or physically ability to play in the league, he quit.


Nice summary , and reality check. There is only 1 Tom Brady... Even Aikman was considered replaceable by Jimmy in the early years. Thats why
he traded to get Steve Walsh.

The 90's D was a much about D as it was O, and we had a reliable kicker.

Easy to forget that the run started with a nail biter against Giants won on an Eddie Murray FG
 

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Dak was riding on high with the first 3 games. What irks me the most about our team which coincides with Dak’s play, is if we lose a player on the offensive side, I’m going into the week worried. Well, that goes for the defensive side too but

GB loses their staring WR and touts a rookie OL, Philly in their Super Bowl run, loses LBs and I believe a key OL.

Coaching? Dak? Whatever it is, it’s not the end of the world but the next 2 are must wins. We need to get back on track with the lowly Jets but the game that will be telling if we make it to the playoffs is the one with the Eagles. We’re going to see what this team is made of with the next two games.
 

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Welp it didnt take long for the first know-nothing to insert his ignorance into the discussion
Started w Dan and you climbed right on his back.
Dan at least has excuse he needs attention and eyeballs to maintain work in media.
Cowboys hot takes are easiest way to do so.

Dak was pretty poor yesterday.(even tho those huge yardage, high score days are what many use to defend other QBs) Turns out he isn't very good when he doesn't trust his blindside.
Shocking, huh?

If you have an anti-Dak agenda, congrats, yesterday can be contorted to fit that purpose.

Not sure why you don't just go follow the Giants or Jets.
Dak is the Cowboys QB for the next decade plus.
Deal with it and get a life or move on for the love of all that is holy.

At this point even the Joker would call you a clown.
 

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Goodness dude, now Dak has to throw a certain ball in case the receiver drops it...... That pick was 100 percent Cooper's fault and anybody saying different is a fool or hater. The other 2 you can put all the blame on Dak but not that first one. That's a very catchable ball that hit both hands in his chest area, no excuse why he didn't catch it.

LOL imagine watching football and saying a QB shouldn't throw a receiver in stride. Imagine watching football and seeing a QB throw a pass behind a WR and be surprised that it gets deflected into the arms of a defender that is trailing.

This also happened with Cobb in the Commanders game. It's like, holy crap, there is a pattern with the QB....

And no, it's not "100%" on Cooper, this is factually incorrect by just ADMITTING the ball was thrown behind - whether you think Cooper is at bigger fault - it does not matter. The pass by Prescott was a poor one and he couldn't hit a receiver in stride that had a good step on the corner. It's ridiculously biased to say otherwise.

Dak lacks precision on his passes and Cooper will do what he has always done and drop the ball. One players mistake does not always cancel out the others. Just stop.
 

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Remember, Dak gets zero credit when he wins. It is only because of Zeke and the OL.

Yet when he loses, the OL and Zeke get no blame and it's all Dak. Keep up. I mean it makes zero sense but just keep up.

This OL has not been good since 2016 but they keep getting a pass for some reason.
Dak didn't get any credit the first three weeks? Did you just return to the planet?

Dak is what we already knew he was. A solid, average quarterback. Nothing more. Nothing less.

We gonna pay that $35 million a year?
 

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Nothing to Cherry Pick...the guy everyone is calling AVERAGE is:

1st in Yards per completion at 9.4
4th in Passing Yards
4th in Completion percentage
2nd in passing Tds
4th in Rating
2nd in Total QBR.

Ya, you guys are a bunch of haters.
This itself is cherry picked from the first 5 games of a 16 game season. With 3 of the first 6 games coming against winless teams. Let’s see if Dak slobberers still have the same energy to post stats at the end of the season. I think we know what rock to find you under then.
 

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Only people who look at and make sweeping generalization based on one or two games would question whether Dak can perform against good team. Did you miss the sweeping of the defending super bowl champs last year?

Did we all miss how he performed in the playoffs last year?

No, i am not even remotely worried about our QB. He is the LEAST of our concerns.

The injuries on our Oline, our defenses inability to generate turnovers or stop the run, and Zeke's ineffectiveness after a huge contract....are all WAY more pressing and concerning.

You are just supporting my claim. I think Dak is still inconsistent when it comes to his performances against better teams.

I get it, you just don't like criticism or analysis of Dak that isn't blowing roses up his butt. But I think it's perfectly valid at this point to note that Dak has not performed well in his two games against playoff caliber teams this year and looked fantastic against some poor teams. He may come out and light the Eagles up in two weeks alleviating some concerns. Or he may not play well.

That's where I am at here. I honestly don't know what kind of play we will get out of him in big games.
 

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This is easy


There are only 3 qbs on this list that I would want to be QB for this team.

All of them have won multiple games in a single playoff vs winning teams. Two have been to Super Bowls.

When has Dakota done any of that???

Lol there it is again

DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT

Take the L! Just man up and take it, it'd go a long way to rebuilding your credibility.
 

WillieBeamen

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Wrong. Never have. Now you’re just lying because you’re bitter.

That’s a shame.
You have, so stop lying

And bitter? LOL


About what?

Well maybe i am bitter. Bitter that we have a laughingstock at QB and will be stuck with him for the foreseeable future
 

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The next time Garret or our defense are actually top tier will the the first in a long time too.

As somebody who is a clear Romo historian perhaps you should have better recognition of the fact that Garret and the defense have also been holding us back for years.

I’ve been criticizing Garrett since 2008. There were VERY FEW people on this forum that attacked Garrett, blaming everybody else including Romo. I’m pretty sure many of the Romo critics that love Dak are now trying to leverage the Garrett excuse for their boy..

The reality is Garrett was neutered in 2014 and Jerry said Garrett isn’t touching the offense.

Most of Jerry’s comments around coordinators has its origins specifically in this. When Dallas won in 2016, that basically was Jerry’s way of justifying Garrett, that as long as we have coordinators around Garrett limiting his role, they can retain his ‘adopted son’ as HC.

Dallas handling of Dak is absolutely on no way like they did Romo, number 1 because Garrett was already relegated to a walk around HC. From the very beginning, they adjusted the offense for Dak and have done everything possible to make it Dak friendly, including establishing a significant run game. With Romo on the other hand, they were using him mask the incompetence here.

we could have very well threatened for a SB with Wade, if we weren’t straddled with Garrett as a play-caller. Anybody that really looked knew the offense would eventually implode against a good defense, because it was too reliant on Romo having to push the offense on his own in an offense that attacked deep and outside the hashes first. Garrett has no clue how to even establish a run game to keep a defense honest.

Now Garrett isn’t even a play caller.
 
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Can we get a gif to use of Jerry in the box saying “come on Dak!” I have a feeling it’ll be a hot one on here
 

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LOL imagine watching football and saying a QB shouldn't throw a receiver in stride. Imagine watching football and seeing a QB throw a pass behind a WR and be surprised that it gets deflected into the arms of a defender that is trailing.

This also happened with Cobb in the Commanders game. It's like, holy crap, there is a pattern with the QB....
Do you even watch other QBs play? It's not like Dak is the only one that throws a pass behind a receiver. He hits his receiver in stride more times than not. Not every single pass is going to be perfect, for any QB including Mahomes. That pass was very catchable and is 100 percent on Cooper.
 

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The point is you were the one who trotted out excuses and tried to rationalize away Dak's interceptions to make his performance look better than it was yesterday.
And no offense, but a NFL game is 60 minutes long. If you can't overcome a WR dropping a pass halfway through the first quarter, then you have a real problem. So I am not buying this notion that Cooper's drop somehow was the big factor in that loss yesterday. The Cowboys had 53 minutes left in that game to get their crap together and they couldn't.
I didn't do or say any of this lol. Try not to hurt your shoulder reaching this far.

He threw 1 INT that was on him, that is a fact. Could he have thrown a couple more, sure. But he didn't. That's how the NFL works.
The drop changed the tone and complexion of the game. Should they have overcome it, yes. Did I say that it was the biggest factor? No.
 

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All the don’t pay him talk gives me a good chuckle. Dak is getting paid and will be the franchise QB for the next 5-10 years.
 

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You have, so stop lying

And bitter? LOL


About what?

Well maybe i am bitter. Bitter that we have a laughingstock at QB and will be stuck with him for the foreseeable future

Pull up the post of me doing it.

Otherwise stop lying about it and throwing out a BS nonsense argument.

You’re bitter because if your arguments and disrespectful back and forths with other posters. So now you lie and project that into me, despite the fact I don’t treat you disrespectfully despite our disagreements about the QB.
 

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It's not nitpicky when it has been a consistent pattern throughout his career. Highlighted in his scouting report coming out of college. It is a significant flaw in his game and after almost every game there is a "he got his hands on it, he should have caught it discussion.

I guarantee it gets in the heads of the receivers over time. They cannot expect the ball to be put in a favorable position. They have to be ready for anything. No consistency and no rhythm. Not a good combo.
It's nitpicky on this play.

Dak's been pretty accurate since Amari arrived anyways. The whole expectation for the WRs thing hasn't been true for a long time now.
 

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There it is for you


I knew you would have trouble finding it because it doesnt fit your agenda. 11-13 vs winning teams. Pitiful
Zero context with this stat.

11-13 vs winning teams sounds bad (I suppose this means teams that finished 8-8 don’t count, even though they were 8-7 in games not including Dallas and would’ve been 9-7 had they beaten Dallas, but I digress)... but is it REALLY?

Seriously, what’s Jared Goff’s career record vs winning teams? How about Carson Wentz’s? Aaron Rodgers? Matt Ryan? Deshaun Watson? Etc.

I don’t know the answers, but I’d be willing to bet that the strong majority of QBs don’t have records much better than 11-13 vs teams with winning records. Just a hunch.
 
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