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So you are going with the excuse making here?

Are you comfortable handing him a $35-37MM AAV contract today?
Don't be lazy and simply call factual circumstances as "excuses." Good God.

Contracts are a moot point. We have zero control over it.
 

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He is looking for market value, money that will be blown away in the next 2 years as other QBs come due.

Like it or not you have to pay franchise QBs market value.

And good luck drafting someone better than him in the middle of the draft. Seen that play out after Aikman and not in a rush to get back there.
He's not a franchise QB and just because you're scarred over what happened after Aikman doesn't mean others are. Ole scarred of failure guy. I know y'all act this way in y'all's real life when it comes to decisions and ime isn't a good way to operate.
 

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Bruh, I’ve had enough of you’re ish. 5972 Rhode Island Drive, Woodbridge, VA. Bring your *** here and say this ish to my face. Might be the last thing you ever do.
So many nova cowboys fans it’s crazy lol
 

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Don't be lazy and simply call factual circumstances as "excuses." Good God.

Contracts are a moot point. We have zero control over it.

What's lazy is just always writing off average performances from our QB as not really his problem because of the fact he didn't have this guy out there or that guy out there. In a league where teams face injuries all the time and good teams and good QBs show they can overcome them, what's lazy is just lining up the excuses because one doesn't like a player getting fairly criticized for his play.
 

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Aren't you the guy last year who argued with me that Wilson isn't an elite QB?

Your judgement on QBs is lacking.
So you think if we swapped QBs we're going to the Super Bowl? Well thought out for someone who likes to puff his internet chest.

I think most fans misuse the term elite. That has always been my point on QBs some title elite.
 

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What's lazy is just always writing off average performances from our QB as not really his problem because of the fact he didn't have this guy out there or that guy out there. In a league where teams face injuries all the time and good teams and good QBs show they can overcome them, what's lazy is just lining up the excuses because one doesn't like a player getting fairly criticized for his play.
K. Regardless of missing multiple starters, Prescott should just do it all. He should also play both sides of the ball. You win. I'm out.
 

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So you think if we swapped QBs we're going to the Super Bowl? Well thought out for someone who likes to puff his internet chest.

I think most fans misuse the term elite. That has always been my point on QBs some title elite.

Yes, I think if we swapped QBs right now the Cowboys would be in much better shape than they are now.

Winning a SB is tough even with good QB play. But when your QB can be inconsistent and often has trouble overcoming injuries around him, it makes it really, really tough to win a SB.
 

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Every position on the roster has been upgraded with 1st round draft picks. LB, D-line twice (plus paid one), secondary has Byron Jones and a couple decent guys that were borderline 1st round. Offensive lineman def has them, rb yep good there, wr made the trade for amari.......guess what position hasn’t been touched? Yep, your beloved golden child’s position hasn’t been. Ole #4. If anybody thinks he is getting a contract without a deep playoff run (which I doubt they even go to playoffs cause eagles are better than them. Hell I doubt they win more than 7 games to be honest)......but if anybody thinks Dak Prescott has $30million a year waiting on him you should prob find another team to root for because you are clueless about where and how the cowboys are and are not spending their money.

The dude can’t throw a 12 yard out route and you think they are going to pay him? Lol. They could pay a 1st round pick that actually has arm talent, 4 years of salary for what dak wants to get paid in one year. And dak sucks!

I’m tired of hearing about this dak is a leader crap. Dak has never led a football to anything important. A week 4-5 #1 ranking before playing bama is for the tv people to sell the game. That’s why miss st lost 2-3 more games after that. Dak is trash and we just gotta deal it with it this year.

Real cowboy fans will think big picture. Dak fans will think about dak. Figure out what you are fellas

I don't understand how any logical thinking person can say yesterdays loss was on Dak. The guys got smashed all day long and still put up good numbers. We lost because the Defense couldn't stop Sam Darnold. As ugly as that game was if Jason takes the points to make it a 6-7 game we would have won.
 

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K. Regardless of missing multiple starters, Prescott should just do it all. He should also play both sides of the ball. You win. I'm out.

Do it all? No. Play better? Yes. If he is really this upper echelon QB, his play shouldn't always crater once injuries set in. But it seemingly does.

That doesn't make him a bad QB. He's not Luke Falk or Cooper Rush out there. Those are bad QBs. He's a good, nice, serviceable QB. I don't think he's the type of QB that can win a SB like a Rodgers or Brady or Wilson. I think that while a good QB, he also limits this franchise's potential to win a SB.

I believe there are limitations to his game that make it tough for him to get on a big roll come playoff time. I am guessing you totally disagree.
 

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So you think if we swapped QBs we're going to the Super Bowl? Well thought out for someone who likes to puff his internet chest.

I think most fans misuse the term elite. That has always been my point on QBs some title elite.

No, you were dead wrong about Wilson. Wilson has already been to two Super Bowls and won one and is now at the top of the MVP race. Yeah, I think we'd have a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl.

Wilson is elite and Dak doesn't deserve "market money". Let some other trash tier team like Miami pay him that. Cowboys need to have higher standards again.
 

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I don't understand how any logical thinking person can say yesterdays loss was on Dak. The guys got smashed all day long and still put up good numbers. We lost because the Defense couldn't stop Sam Darnold. As ugly as that game was if Jason takes the points to make it a 6-7 game we would have won.
The ole I'm logical and anybody who disagrees isn't line of thinking. Nobody has said it was on him singularly so stop the disingenuous posting. The majority have said he's a part of the problem again not the only problem.
 

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No, you were dead wrong about Wilson. Wilson has already been to two Super Bowls and won one and is now at the top of the MVP race. Yeah, I think we'd have a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl.

Wilson is elite and Dak doesn't deserve "market money". Let some other trash tier team like Miami pay him that. Cowboys need to have higher standards again.

I am confused. Is he really arguing that Dak and Wilson are comparable QBs?
 

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Right

Because we did so well vs New Orleans scoring 10 points with most or all of those guys on the field

So you think other QBs don't have bad games? Brees only scored 10 points against us last year. And the Saints team last year was a better team than our team this year.
 

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So you think other QBs don't have bad games? Brees only scored 10 points against us last year. And the Saints team last year was a better team than our team this year.

The Saints struggled down the stretch last year actually and Brees' arm looked weaker. And our defense played well at the end of last season, they were ranked in the top 10.

Saints defense when we faced them was ranked something like 28th.
 

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I am confused. Is he really arguing that Dak and Wilson are comparable QBs?

If I remember correctly, his argument is the gap between Dak and Wilson is not so great and Wilson is not on the level of the big three: Brady, Brees, and Rodgers.
 

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The Saints struggled down the stretch last year actually and Brees' arm looked weaker. And our defense played well at the end of last season, they were ranked in the top 10.

Saints defense when we faced them was ranked something like 28th.

They were riding a 10 game winning streak before we exposed Brees and that offense. Try again.
 
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