How does Josh McDaniels gets no love as a possible candidate in Dallas?

[Whyjerry]

I was doing the Urban Meyer dance last week. This week I am going back to my favorite coordinator candidate...Josh McDaniels. Sure he failed in Denver. He had no QB. Big Bill failed in Cleveland. McDaniels is an elite coordinator. He has Pats pedigree. He wins and moves the ball without Brady. He wins with new skill guys every year. I know the HC looms large in New England but in my opinion McDaniels is one of his best coordinators.Yet when some talk next coach they sing the praises of Lincoln Riley. That guy has won nothing. Why no love for McDaniels?

 

[VACowboy]

Denver.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

He should be but Denver's performance and his drafting of tebow in the 1st hurt his HC stock.

Second is, everyone presumes he only performs because he works under Bill and if you remove bill then he'd be nothing (I dont agree)

 

[Sydla]

Because he's not trustworthy, he's arrogant to a fault, he was exposed in Denver, he is a guy who thinks he's smarter than every one else (like when he wasted a first round pick on Tim Tebow like a moron), and frankly, the Belichick coaching tree doesn't really seem to produce great HCs.

 

[Colombiacowboy]

I was doing the Urban Meyer dance last week. This week I am going back to my favorite coordinator candidate...Josh McDaniels. Sure he failed in Denver. He had no QB. Big Bill failed in Cleveland. McDaniels is an elite coordinator. He has Pats pedigree. He wins and moves the ball without Brady. He wins with new skill guys every year. I know the HC looms large in New England but in my opinion McDaniels is one of his best coordinators.Yet when some talk next coach they sing the praises of Lincoln Riley. That guy has won nothing. Why no love for McDaniels?

Exhibit A: Denver
Exhibit B: He backed out of Indy.

So not only is he a loser and system guy, he also has no character.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Because he's not trustworthy, he's arrogant to a fault, he was exposed in Denver, he is a guy who thinks he's smarter than every one else (like when he wasted a first round pick on Tim Tebow like a moron), and frankly, the Belichick coaching tree doesn't really seem to produce great HCs.

1000% ....good post! His tree hasn't done well at all.....last I checked ( sometime last year ), ALL his former assistants, with the exception of Texan's O'Brien, had coaching records of 500 or below.

 

[Sydla]

1000% ....good post! His tree hasn't done well at all.....last I checked ( sometime last year ), ALL his former assistants, with the exception of Texan's O'Brien, had coaching records of 500 or below.

Yep, his assistants that have moved on haven't had great success out on their own............ Weis, Crennel are two others that pretty much crashed and burned.

 

[JoeKing]

I was doing the Urban Meyer dance last week. This week I am going back to my favorite coordinator candidate...Josh McDaniels. Sure he failed in Denver. He had no QB. Big Bill failed in Cleveland. McDaniels is an elite coordinator. He has Pats pedigree. He wins and moves the ball without Brady. He wins with new skill guys every year. I know the HC looms large in New England but in my opinion McDaniels is one of his best coordinators.Yet when some talk next coach they sing the praises of Lincoln Riley. That guy has won nothing. Why no love for McDaniels?

No love for what? Is there a job opening? I'm not aware of any.

 

[Proof]

Because he's not trustworthy, he's arrogant to a fault, he was exposed in Denver, he is a guy who thinks he's smarter than every one else (like when he wasted a first round pick on Tim Tebow like a moron), and frankly, the Belichick coaching tree doesn't really seem to produce great HCs.

basically this. And he comes off as a weasel and just can’t see the personality fit on top of the rest.

 

[EGTuna]

McDaniels isn't a good HC candidate for the reasons listed above; went all Machiavelli in Denver, Ghosted Indy and has the benefit of coaching Brady and being under the Belichick umbrella. I wouldn't trust him on his own.

Belichick's coaching tree is nothing but a Ponzi Scheme created by Belichick to create easy wins/weak teams in the AFC so he can have a better path to the #1/#2 seed.

 

[Runwildboys]

Seems like there's more than one answer to the OP's question.

 

[Runwildboys]

McDaniels isn't a good HC candidate for the reasons listed above; went all Machiavelli in Denver, Ghosted Indy and has the benefit of coaching Brady and being under the Belichick umbrella. I wouldn't trust him on his own.

Belichick's coaching tree is nothing but a Ponzi Scheme created by Belichick to create easy wins/weak teams in the AFC so he can have a better path to the #1/#2 seed.

Well that last part seems like a miniseries waiting to happen.

 

[CouchCoach]

He is the heir apparent in NE and I think that's why he backed out on Indy.

 

[CATCH17]

None of New Englands coaches do well without Belichick for whatever reason.

Belichick usually does fine when he doesn't have Tom Brady as well so it's mostly him.

 

[dwreck27]

The Belichick coaching tree is very dead with next to zero signs of life by anyone....

Quite a feat for a coaching GOAT to have zero assistants worth a hoot

 

[nightrain]

J.M. is the heir apparent to the NE throne. It's the best place for him, the culture is already in place. Matt Patricia has a decent football team in Detroit, but he is having a difficult time simulating the NE culture there. I think Patricia will soon be one of Belichick's most successful proteges.

 

[Bullflop]

I was doing the Urban Meyer dance last week. This week I am going back to my favorite coordinator candidate...Josh McDaniels. Sure he failed in Denver. He had no QB. Big Bill failed in Cleveland. McDaniels is an elite coordinator. He has Pats pedigree. He wins and moves the ball without Brady. He wins with new skill guys every year. I know the HC looms large in New England but in my opinion McDaniels is one of his best coordinators.Yet when some talk next coach they sing the praises of Lincoln Riley. That guy has won nothing. Why no love for McDaniels?

You were likely better off with your Urban Meyer preference, whether or not it ever comes to fruition. There's far from any guarantee Jerry will see fit to disassociate himself with Jason Garrett, anyway. Like he said, he's looking for reasons to keep him -- not overly encouraging by a longshot.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I don’t want any coach from the Bellicheat tree.

 

[mattjames2010]

I am about 100% certain he stayed in NE because they have plans for him to take over once Belichick hangs it up. Whether Kraft was being honest about this, who knows.

 

[erod]

Some guys are just victim of the Peter Principle. McDaniels is an OC.