How does Josh McDaniels gets no love as a possible candidate in Dallas?

[CouchCoach]

He's awful

Not sold on him at all, he's one that needs a hell of a lot of talent.

 

[Lutonio]

Not after the way he did the Colts. Can't trust that man.

 

[Seven]

Denver.

Yep. He's just not HC material, IMO.

 

[dckid]

Denver.

Didn’t he take Denver to a playoff win?
No he didn’t so I correct myself. The problem is we need a Phil Jackson type who can take us over the top. Usually good head coaches close to 8-10 wins keep their jobs. It’s a different mentality than with baseball and basketball.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

1000% ....good post! His tree hasn't done well at all.....last I checked ( sometime last year ), ALL his former assistants, with the exception of Texan's O'Brien, had coaching records of 500 or below.

If a very successful head coach is so because he has great assistants, who all have major input into the team, then the assistants will be successful elsewhere.
But in NE's case, Bill is still "the man" I believe, he uses his assistants to just carry out his scheme, plays, etc. In other words they're just cogs in a wheel, Bill turns the crank...

 

[Cowboyny]

Do people fail to remember his stint with Denver. He wanted to bring in Matt Cassell to replace a young Jay Cutler, got rid of several other quality players and spent a 1st rounder on Tim Tebow. He accepted the Indy job and last second backs out. He is the last person I would like see coach the Cowboys in any capacity. People are just so blinded, Brady/Bellichek are the only reasons why the Patriots are so successful!

 

[Whyjerry]

You mean in Denver?

I guess you are right. McDaniels sucks. Let’s lock Garrett up for 10 years.

 

[atlantacowboy]

One thing some fail to consider is that playbook is not his playbook, that playbook has been there since Belichick got there, other OC's have executed the same plays before McDaniels and when he was gone.

The entire team is Design by Belichick, including ST. His coaches can't take anything with them when they leave because it's all him. He's that throwback before all of this specialization like we have with McVay, Shanahan and Reid. They have to have strong counter balances at DC.

There have been some great coaches in the NFL but I am starting to drop that "in the cap era" from my best HC thinking.

I agree. He's the GOAT. What he has done in this era is unreal. Lombardi, Knoll, Landry, and Walsh built great teams but they were able to hold onto players for their entire careers. Belechek has only had Brady as a constant. He's built like 5 great teams. He keeps churning the roster and making it work.

 

[Rayman70]

the problem hiring him is, he is very fickle. I wouldn't trust him very much. I want a HC that will be here more than 3 years. I don't think he is that kind of guy. PLUS Dak would have to learn a totally new playbook. I like Moore honestly, and actually would be ok rolling the dice naming HIM the HC, rather than changing everything.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Do people fail to remember his stint with Denver. He wanted to bring in Matt Cassell to replace a young Jay Cutler, got rid of several other quality players and spent a 1st rounder on Tim Tebow. He accepted the Indy job and last second backs out. He is the last person I would like see coach the Cowboys in any capacity. People are just so blinded, Brady/Bellichek are the only reasons why the Patriots are so successful!

+1........

 

[mattjames2010]

I guess you are right. McDaniels sucks. Let’s lock Garrett up for 10 years.

Is your point it's either/or here?

Luckily, us living in reality, there is more than just two HC candidates out there.

 

[Whyjerry]

Is your point it's either/or here?

Luckily, us living in reality, there is more than just two HC candidates out there.

Just being sarcastic. Try decaf or an enema.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I was doing the Urban Meyer dance last week. This week I am going back to my favorite coordinator candidate...Josh McDaniels. Sure he failed in Denver. He had no QB. Big Bill failed in Cleveland. McDaniels is an elite coordinator. He has Pats pedigree. He wins and moves the ball without Brady. He wins with new skill guys every year. I know the HC looms large in New England but in my opinion McDaniels is one of his best coordinators.Yet when some talk next coach they sing the praises of Lincoln Riley. That guy has won nothing. Why no love for McDaniels?

Probably because Jerry is looking for any reason possible to keep Garrett, clapping included.

 

[CouchCoach]

Why would he consider the DC HC job when he's seen how it works in NE? He's worked under the most hands on HC with that entire team. Think he would come to a situation with the Joneses getting their fingers in everything?

I think there's a coaches' underground where information is known that we are not privy to about GM's and owners. And think about any coach taking a swing at a HC gig, what's damage does he do to his resume? None. Look at how many jobs these guys get and are continually recycled. So a coach take a HC job, pockets the cash and then goes back to a coordinator or position coach, he still has the money he's made and no one really cares about his failures. Look at Linehan and Marinelli failing miserably as HC's and landing coordinators jobs making a couple a mil a year.

These are jobs, no different from the mainstream and these men treat them as such and the NFL prefers to train their own as opposed to bringing college coaches in and taking a chance on them. Once you're in, you're on the circuit and few will not have jobs.

 

[mattjames2010]

Just being sarcastic. Try decaf or an enema.

No, it was simply you implying an either/or situation. You're upset that people aren't going for your pet cat HC.

Here is a real simple response for you: Most of this board doesn't want either of these dudes as our next HC.

 

[Whyjerry]

No, it was simply you implying an either/or situation. You're upset that people aren't going for your pet cat HC.

Here is a real simple response for you: Most of this board doesn't want either of these dudes as our next HC.

Let me be simple back...I give lots of thoughts on coaches I would like to see. At least 5 college guys and a similar amount of pro candidates. Of course these are all opinions. Lincoln Riley is mentioned every day here. Personally he is a pass for me. Again, my opinion. I wondered why I don't hear more talk about McDaniels. Curious that's all. So I asked. Like I am curious why you always choose to be combative. Always. Don't like the thread - move on. Yet you choose to be combative. I am curious were you bullied as a child? Are you an only child so you crave attention? Do you scream at the sky? Is it a medical condition? Low iron or Vitamin D? I don't know. I am curious though.

 

[Seven]

Do people fail to remember his stint with Denver. He wanted to bring in Matt Cassell to replace a young Jay Cutler, got rid of several other quality players and spent a 1st rounder on Tim Tebow. He accepted the Indy job and last second backs out. He is the last person I would like see coach the Cowboys in any capacity. People are just so blinded, Brady/Bellichek are the only reasons why the Patriots are so successful!

Almost. Cutler demanded a trade as soon as be found out that Josh was hired as the HC.

That's why Cassell came into the picture. I think it was Cassell.

Hard to keep up with all the NFL, isn't it?

 

[CWR]

Is Brady coming with him? When he went to Denver, NE kept rolling. He's made no discernable difference.

Having Tom Brady sure can make a coach look good.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I actually would, but there are 2 things working against him. First, he left the Colts at the alter...big time. They rebounded with a good hire in Reich, but they situation could have been disastrous. And second, He isn't likely to go to a situation with as little control as here. He makes $4 million a year to coach Brady, so is the extra $1-2 million worth leaving unless it's a great situation? I'd say no. And Dallas is a great situation as far as talent goes, but the lack of control isn't something he'd want to deal with.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I guess you are right. McDaniels sucks. Let’s lock Garrett up for 10 years.

Are those 2 the only choices?