Dak - proof that hunger and work ethic are paramount

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Yappy dog is the only one of the remaining Dak bashers that doesn't have the common sense to shut up after Dak is done lighting it up.

At least the others are considerate enough to go hide like the cockroaches they are.
 

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A year ago many on here were calling for and wishing Romo would return from retirement and pick up the QB mantle.

A year later, Dak has put this team on his back with an under-performing running game, under-performing defense, and a superhuman / inconsistent kicker. Dak is in the MVP conversation and if he continues on this path, he has a good shot of getting a nod.

Any Dak haters still out there?
Nobody hates Dak. Hard working good dude.

But I need to see him and the offense do this against good teams.

You can't just beat losing teams. You have to beat teams with winning records, too.

Otherwise, you're just 8-8 and spinning your wheels.

Let's see these next two weeks.
 

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A year ago many on here were calling for and wishing Romo would return from retirement and pick up the QB mantle.

A year later, Dak has put this team on his back with an under-performing running game, under-performing defense, and a superhuman / inconsistent kicker. Dak is in the MVP conversation and if he continues on this path, he has a good shot of getting a nod.

Any Dak haters still out there?

I’m one of the people who have doubted Dak

he is playing great this year and is putting himself in the great QB conversation

I just think he will not win anything meaningful (like a SB) as long as Garrett is HC and we will talk about him as a good QB who never took the next step to become elite just like Romo
 

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Nobody hates Dak. Hard working good dude.

But I need to see him and the offense do this against good teams.

You can't just beat losing teams. You have to beat teams with winning records, too.

Otherwise, you're just 8-8 and spinning your wheels.

Let's see these next two weeks.

Dak isn't the problem with this team, Rodgers or Brady or Brees or Mahomes would do no better, win-wise, than Dak, or at best might go a bit farther in the playoffs.

If you play the game to win SBs, might as well stick with Dak, the end result, as long as JJ and Stephen and Garrett are in charge, will be the same...
 

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Dak isn't the problem with this team, Rodgers or Brady or Brees or Mahomes would do no better, win-wise, than Dak, or at best might go a bit farther in the playoffs.

If you play the game to win SBs, might as well stick with Dak, the end result, as long as JJ and Stephen and Garrett are in charge, will be the same...
He certainly isn't the problem, but do you pay $35 million of your cap to a guy who has to have a perfect offense and only plays really well against losing teams?

That's the hurdle he's got to overcome to be an elite guy.

Next two weeks are opportunities.
 

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No need to point fingers and name calling.A poster should focus on the arguments that someone presents and not the person.It is more constructive.
 

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Nobody hates Dak. Hard working good dude.

But I need to see him and the offense do this against good teams.

You can't just beat losing teams. You have to beat teams with winning records, too.

Otherwise, you're just 8-8 and spinning your wheels.

Let's see these next two weeks.
I'd respect this stance if you were at least consistent in your QB critique. Romo didn't play particularly well against good defenses either and we had a poor record against good teams when he was the QB, too. But you choose to defend him while not doing the same with Dak. The double standard makes your opinion meaningless, IMO.
 

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I'd respect this stance if you were at least consistent in your QB critique. Romo didn't play particularly well against good defenses either and we had a poor record against good teams when he was the QB, too. But you choose to defend him while not doing the same with Dak. The double standard makes your opinion meaningless, IMO.
You're misremembering. He had some great games against good teams, but often lost because 35 points wasn't enough.
 

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Some people complain that Dak can't "carry the team on his back unless he has top talent around him and all day to throw".

There's some truth to that, but as in this game, the running game isn't doing well, Cooper has limited snaps due to physical problems, the o-line isn't top notch, merely very good and of course he has to deal with Garrett as his head coach, as well as a greenhorn OC.

If Dak didn't have the skills, he'd not have 444 yards and 3 tds, with zero ints. So in part he is "carrying the team on his back", imho, without the skills he'd still probably have won the game, but not by such a score and certainly not with 444 yards of passing.

And finding the quarterback that can truly carry a team on his back is very difficult, many teams have tried that and failed miserably. You risk losing all this team has built up if you abandon Dak after this year, or the next.

I think it's time we all got behind Dak, sure he's not a Brady or Rodgers or Brees or Wilson(but bearing in mind each of the last three have won ONE Super Bowl each, if they are truly able to carry a team, then why haven't they gotten but the one SB each?), but those guys are few and far between.

He's not going anywhere, Jerry WILL pay whatever it takes to sign him. He has rapport with the receivers, Zeke is still young and strong. If someone truly hungers for a Dallas Cowboys SB win or two or three, we need to stick with Dak, the other alternatives have a lesser chance of major success, I'm taking the best shot possible....

That's just it.........this is where that whole "carry the team w/o talent narrative fails" . It's some BS made up by Dak critics. Look what happen to Rogers last year with questionable coaching from McCarthy. Do you honestly think Brady wins 5 Super Bowls if he played for Browns or Dolphins w/o Belichick, hell no. Take a look at Brees record/stats before Saints struck gold Thomas and Ramanda(ms). No QB has been able to carry a team on it's back to a Super Bowl w/o talent. Marino or Romo couldn't do it even with monster stats or Manning and Elway needing running game late in their careers.
 

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I'd respect this stance if you were at least consistent in your QB critique. Romo didn't play particularly well against good defenses either and we had a poor record against good teams when he was the QB, too. But you choose to defend him while not doing the same with Dak. The double standard makes your opinion meaningless, IMO.

Take a bow......:clap::clap::clap::hammer::hammer:
 

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He certainly isn't the problem, but do you pay $35 million of your cap to a guy who has to have a perfect offense and only plays really well against losing teams?

That's the hurdle he's got to overcome to be an elite guy.

Next two weeks are opportunities.
Well he doesn't have a perfect offense right now. Bad running game and Cooper's been banged up.
 

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You have to have a some talent though.
Tim Tebow was the epitomy of hunger, work ethic and leadership. But he failed because he didn't have professional quarterbacking talent.
And I loved me some Tebow.
Dak has talent.
But we'll see how far that talent, work ethic and hunger takes him.
The playoffs are a different level. Football doesn't just stop with the regular season.
He still has much to prove.
 

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He certainly isn't the problem, but do you pay $35 million of your cap to a guy who has to have a perfect offense and only plays really well against losing teams?

That's the hurdle he's got to overcome to be an elite guy.

Next two weeks are opportunities.

Again, if not Dak, what? $35 mil this year won't be "elite" money before his new contract would run out, just look at the top quarterback salary history. Have to also look at the long term, maybe he's not "worth" $35 million a year now, but even at his present level in a couple of years guys like Mahomes, Jackson, etc. will be at the $40 or more million level, do the franchise thing with Dak and the cost will just go up and up. Lock him in now, and even if he doesn't improve, his cost will be in line with his "value" before the contract runs out (and teams can do contracts so that they can get out of it before it's over), and you'll know what you have tied up in Dak so you can budget your cap for guys like LVE, etc.

I understand, I'd also like another Roger or Troy, or a Mahomes (he hasn't won anything yet, by the way), but it's a bird in the hand question, if you want to roll the dice and hope you can trade for an aging Rodgers or such, and he'll still be productive (witness Montana after he left San Fran, e.g.) or trade away tons of high draft picks to get - keep your fingers crossed - a top rookie who won't turn out to be another Russell or Winston or such.

There's no cut and dried answer, it all depends on your desired course of action....
 

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The Dak haters still exist, believe it or not.

They’d rather see Dak and the Cowboys fail than see Dak and the Cowboys succeed.

They have their “reasons” and it’s not hard to figure out WHY some of them will never accept Dak as our QB.

They’ve been tarred, feathered and ridiculed yet keep coming back.

Dak has absolutely ruined them. Ruined their fan experience, ruined their reputations and ruined their Sundays repeatedly this year.

Don’t even discuss football with them. Just point at them and laugh. They’re complete jokes.

Dak wins. They lose. In a landslide.
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Another sad poster , race and racial hate innuendo have no place here, sicking.
 

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Dak haters are too entrenched in their agenda to change. They would have to create a new account in order to get any respect anyway. I have more respect for Philly fans than I do for them.
I can think of quite a few words to describe their thought processes other than agenda. but good manners prevents me from doing so.
 
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