The straw that will break the camel's back

[jnday]

I just remember 2015 too well.

When we look to rely on this staff to fix the QB situation..

We got told Brandon Weeden was the answer and then an endless conga line of guys that were finished.

Mark Sanchez, etc

Remember Dak was a 4th rd. longterm project as a backup.

Not drafted to replace Romo.

That happened by chance.

So this staff worries me when it comes to picking QBs.

Garrett was not a good one in the first place.

We should not let him pick the next one for sure

I certainly hope that Will and the scouting dept can pick a QB better than the last regime.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

That's a fact but what's the alternative, the bird in the hand worth two in the bush? Settle for Tier 2 at Tier 1 money making it difficult to get the O and D more balanced with resources?

I don't know where you get a tier 2 QB.He's played very well all year, except for this past game. As for resources, allowing Rod to select top talent has been a mistake, Hill and Taco were misses. LVE and Jaylon have regressed and it may be that LVE is done. People praise Richard, but his defensive backs are terrible. They don't get any turnovers. Look at the special teams, the worst in the NFL. None of this has anything to do with Dak. It takes a complete team effort from all three aspects, but the defense and special teams don't do their part. Even Brees and Brady would be hard pressed to win with the defense and special teams we have.

 

[Runwildboys]

Getting the next great QB doesn't always turn out that way.

Could you imagine trading up to get Mariota or Winston or Trubisky or Carr for example?

That's why he said " Dak Prescott is not that guy and I think the Cowboys need to go as high as they can to get one that might be that guy and if not, go back again until they get him."

 

[Runwildboys]

WAST

WASP

 

[KMY_Amber]

I don't know where you get a tier 2 QB.He's played very well all year, except for this past game. As for resources, allowing Rod to select top talent has been a mistake, Hill and Taco were misses. LVE and Jaylon have regressed and it may be that LVE is done. People praise Richard, but his defensive backs are terrible. They don't get any turnovers. Look at the special teams, the worst in the NFL. None of this has anything to do with Dak. It takes a complete team effort from all three aspects, but the defense and special teams don't do their part. Even Brees and Brady would be hard pressed to win with the defense and special teams we have.

If you give Brees and Brady this coaching staff, and this defense, and this special teams, they'd be hard pressed to be 6-6 too. Football is the ultimate team game, which is why Terry Bradshaw and 4 rings, and certainly why Trent Dilfer has one.....and why other great NFL players in the past don't.

Yes, a single player can lift a whole franchise in the NFL and be carried by him, but it often takes more than just a Great One.

 

[Runwildboys]

Ya I just don't know how well replace those 2 career interceptions. look in a perfect world we keep Byron and Im not necessarily on board with over paying Dak but hes been pretty good this year. You're advocating not paying Dak but paying Bridgewater. You think hes going to come cheap i doubt that. Your scenario with all due respect does nothing and i don't see Bridgewater as this huge upgrade to Dak if at all.

This teams problem are on the sidelines and the defensive side of the ball. If we dont repair that Aaron Rodgers could be under center and theyll still find ways to lose games

I don't see Bridgewater as an upgrade either, but I think he'd be a lot cheaper, and wouldn't be a big drop off, IMO.

 

[Runwildboys]

They could have ended up with Paxton Lynch and would probably still be looking for a QB.

Jimmy said it best on the Fox morning show, you pay your QB and draft young cheap players to put around him.

Last time Jimmy had a great team, money was no object.

 

[Runwildboys]

Let's keep "Field Goaling" with Prescott baby!
America's team must accept "Mediocrity" simply because Life is not a sure thing!
OMG, how much is the going rate to work for Dak's PR office?????

P.S. Getting tired of our team getting abused and embarrassed by mid to top tier teams in the league!!!!!

It's good that you finally spoke up and let us all know how you feel!

 

[zrinkill]

WASP

WASA

 

[Runwildboys]

If this thread is based on the premise that Prescott is not a Tier 1 QB - then it absolutely is a Dak Prescott thread.

There aren't 5 quarterbacks in the league better than him right now.

And that's just about how many good teams there are.

 

[jnday]

It's a loser mentality

Ravens just went from Flacco to Jackson
Chiefs went from Smith to Mahomes

Both teams didn't settle with "okay", they knew they needed to upgrade to for the long term. And Dak isn't going to have some magical post-season like Flacco either, so there is even less of a reason to stick around with mediocrity.

You also have many fans that wants to keep Dak because he was a 4th round pick and these fans think that Dallas got an elite QB with very little investment. This line of thinking makes no sense to me. I don’t care what round he was drafted in. After the draft is over, they are all Cowboys and it doesn’t matter how they got there. They refuse to move on from the ideal that Dak was such a bargain that it would be stupid to invest resources ( draft picks) into another QB.

 

[Runwildboys]

WASA

Just go ahead and make "What a stupid thread" your signature. It'll save you the time of writing it every single time you post.

 

[zrinkill]

Just go ahead and make "What a stupid thread" your signature. It'll save you the time of writing it every single time you post.

No thanks ...... I would rather just write it every time I post ........ and I don't care if you like it or not

 

[mattjames2010]

You also have many fans that wants to keep Dak because he was a 4th round pick and these fans think that Dallas got an elite QB with very little investment. This line of thinking makes no sense to me. I don’t care what round he was drafted in. After the draft is over, they are all Cowboys and it doesn’t matter how they got there. They refuse to move on from the ideal that Dak was such a bargain that it would be stupid to invest resources ( draft picks) into another QB.

That bargain goes away since we didn't win a Super Bowl in his cheapest years and will now be getting top QB money.

What a great franchise.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Show me the stats of those QBs right now and then we'll talk. TD/INT ratio? Fumbles? Sacks? I need more information because they have more wins than Dak. Now, I don't like using wins as a QB stat, but in all of these wins these teams have had, their offenses and QB's have played miles better than Dak has. I know, playcalling is bad, coaching is terrible, but I've seen Dak make a lot more bad decisions and throws than those QB's.

based on this last game?

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I see a lot of fans that say that finding a new QB will hard to do. It is based on the fear of the unknown. The team has been playing scared, but there is no reason why the fans should fear dumping Dak and drafting a new QB. Sure it is a roll of the dice, but it is a roll that they shouldn’t fear taking. Some times you have to make aggressive moves to improve the team.

Do some research on the team, look at the post Aikman years. If Jerry hadn't stumbled upon and UDFA Romo, followed by a 4th round pick, we'd be in bigger trouble.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

We have literally seen Dak take a huge step forward this offseason and by all accounts there is better coaching on the way. Why do we want him not to improve? It seems like it’s a foregone conclusion to everyone that this is what he is, just like it was foregone in 2017 & 2018.

Dudes gonna get better Idk why no one wants to believe that

This years Dak with a reliable defense and special teams, would have this team with 10 wins right now.

 

[KMY_Amber]

Do some research on the team, look at the post Aikman years. If Jerry hadn't stumbled upon and UDFA Romo, followed by a 4th round pick, we'd be in bigger trouble.

Indeed. Some of us will never forget the pre-Romo/Dak years that included:

2001 Quincy Carter (8) / Anthony Wright (3) / Ryan Leaf (3) / Clint Stoerner (2)
2002 Chad Hutchinson (9) / Quincy Carter (7)
2003 Quincy Carter (16)
2004 Vinny Testaverde (15) / Drew Henson (1)
2005 Drew Bledsoe (16)

We're lucky it only lasted 5 years before the Cowboys stumbled into Romo, and then we got lucky with Dak too with the 135th pick in the 4th round. At this point, I'm counting our blessings, even though neither may win a SB. With Dak, I still have hope, with a new coach and a new philosophy.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

I'm intrigued by the bold.

So when other QB's have success, it's because "our defense severely underachieved"

But then Dak puts up huge numbers against mediocre teams and struggles more often than not against good to great defenses, the only logical conclusion is "get out your checkbook Jerry". Would it surprise you to know that all 6 of our victories this year are against teams who are ranked 20th or worse (bottom 3rd of the league) in scoring defense.

We have 4 losses in 4 games against teams with top 12 (top 3rd of the league) scoring defenses. NE giving up 12.1 ppg. we scored 9. Under their average. Buffalo giving up 15.7 ppg. We scored 15. Slightly under their average. Minnesota giving up 20.4 PPG. We scored 24. We overachieved on that one. Saints allowing 20.7 ppg. We scored 10. Again way under their average.

How are those numbers going to look when a couple of our O line and maybe Cooper are gone because we're paying Dak $40 million. Sorry, I'm not seeing the logic here. Just being honest.

Which great defenses did he struggle against? He's played well in every game but NE. There's nothing he can do about the porous defense, the stupid in game decisions by Garrett, the special teams, the defense not getting turnovers, and his WRs dropping passes. Not to mention the untimely holding, false starts and tripping penalties. We've lost at least 3 games due to Garrett and special teams alone. Is that Dak's fault?

 

[DFWJC]

Getting the next great QB doesn't always turn out that way.

Could you imagine trading up to get Mariota or Winston or Trubisky or Carr for example?

I’d leave Carr off that list, but get your point