Dak 1 yard short of tying Romo's single season franchise passing record; 2 yards shy of rec

[OmerV]

What trio of receivers did he have that compared to this one, along with a good receiving RB, and a play making TE to go with the safety valve Witten, and the O-line Dak has? I honestly don't remember him ever having such a variety of weapons.

The year Romo set the record he had Witten still in his prime, Dez Bryant in his prime, Myles Austin in his prime, and almost 700 yards receiving from the RB/FB position. I would say that compares pretty favorably with this group. There was also a point Romo had Witten in his prime, plus TO and Patrick Crayton, which also isn't bad.

To be clear, I'm not trying to argue either had a clear and convincing advantage over the other, but I don't think it's accurate to suggest Romo didn't have at least a comparable group of skill players to call upon.

 

[Flamma]

Dak Prescott finished the 2019 season passing for 4,902 yards, just 1 yard shy of tying Tony Romo's 2012 single season franchise passing record of 4,903 yards.

Dak was only allowed to pass 1 more time (a 1 yard sideline dump to Tavon Austin) after 9 minutes left in the 4th quarter. The rest of the offensive plays were strictly running plays. Coincidence? I doubt it. Someone must have known Dak needed 1 more passing yard to tie Romo's 2012 franchise single season passing record, and a mere 2 passing yards shy of Dak breaking it.

It is shameful Dak was only allowed to pass the ball 1 time within the last 9 minutes of the game. He deserved a better opportunity to break the franchise single season passing record. He earned that opportunity this year.

Means nothing. Both seasons ended in 8-8 and it just comes down to who has the better perfume in a season that stinks for both of them. I'll take Romo's 3700 yard season with 34 TDs and 9 INTs over his record breaking season with 28 TDs and 19 INTs anyday.

 

[OmerV]

Means nothing. Both seasons ended in 8-8 and it just comes down to who has the better perfume in a season that stinks for both of them. I'll take Romo's 3700 yard season with 34 TDs and 9 INTs over his record breaking season with 28 TDs and 19 INTs anyday.

So, if you are a salesman and break the record for sales in the long history your company has existed, you would take no pride in that if another company in the same business had a better year than yours did?

Come on, nobody is saying the record means everything, or overrides that the Cowboys had a disappointing season, they are just saying it would have been a nice individual accomplishment for an individual player.

 

[Runwildboys]

The year Romo set the record he had Witten still in his prime, Dez Bryant in his prime, Myles Austin in his prime, and almost 700 yards receiving from the RB/FB position. I would say that compares pretty favorably with this group. There was also a point Romo had Witten in his prime, plus TO and Patrick Crayton, which also isn't bad.

To be clear, I'm not trying to argue either had a clear and convincing advantage over the other, but I don't think it's accurate to suggest Romo didn't have at least a comparable group of skill players to call upon.

Myles Austin and Patrick Crayton did nothing with anyone but Romo, IIRC. Witten in his prime wasn't much different than Witten now, IMO. And Romo may have had decent OLs at times, but nothing like this one. Nor did he have a RB that opposing defenses concentrated on stopping, at least not nearly to the extent they do Zeke.

 

[G2]

What trio of receivers did he have that compared to this one, along with a good receiving RB, and a play making TE to go with the safety valve Witten, and the O-line Dak has? I honestly don't remember him ever having such a variety of weapons.

Bryant had 1382
Witten had 1039
Austin had 943

What trio of receivers did he have that compared to this one, along with a good receiving RB, and a play making TE to go with the safety valve Witten, and the O-line Dak has? I honestly don't remember him ever having such a variety of weapons.

He had weapons, not as good as our current 3rd Wr tho. Look, all I'm saying is that banging out 4900 yards is pretty good, I really wasn't debating who caught passes.

 

[G2]

you probably weren't a Romo hater.

Correct, I wasn't. I was a solid fan of Romo and defended him against some of the same idiotic things some fans said about him.

 

[Blue&Silver]

Dak Prescott finished the 2019 season passing for 4,902 yards, just 1 yard shy of tying Tony Romo's 2012 single season franchise passing record of 4,903 yards.

Dak was only allowed to pass 1 more time (a 1 yard sideline dump to Tavon Austin) after 9 minutes left in the 4th quarter. The rest of the offensive plays were strictly running plays. Coincidence? I doubt it. Someone must have known Dak needed 1 more passing yard to tie Romo's 2012 franchise single season passing record, and a mere 2 passing yards shy of Dak breaking it.

It is shameful Dak was only allowed to pass the ball 1 time within the last 9 minutes of the game. He deserved a better opportunity to break the franchise single season passing record. He earned that opportunity this year.

I didn't know Romo had done that. That's quite impressive, in fact very impressive for a QB to do that in 2012.

 

[Aviano90]

Myles Austin and Patrick Crayton did nothing with anyone but Romo, IIRC. Witten in his prime wasn't much different than Witten now, IMO. And Romo may have had decent OLs at times, but nothing like this one. Nor did he have a RB that opposing defenses concentrated on stopping, at least not nearly to the extent they do Zeke.

Miles Austin was a YAC receiver and his hamstrings couldn’t hold up. Crayton just sucked. The 2014-2016 lines were the best, probably ever in our history. No RB needed to be concentrated on because Dallas would abandon the run and stop themselves, even with huge leads. Nothing is different. We still abandon the run with Zeke.

 

[G2]

I'm ok with Prescott not being as good as Romo was, they're different styles of QBs. I'm ok with Prescott not being a gunslinger or having to be, it's refreshing.

 

[Runwildboys]

Bryant had 1382
Witten had 1039
Austin had 9

He had weapons, not as good as our current 3rd Wr tho. Look, all I'm saying is that banging out 4900 yards is pretty good, I really wasn't debating who caught passes.

4900 yards is definitely better than most QBs, and I'm not saying it isn't impressive. But I think one has to look at extenuating circumstances that aided in getting those numbers as well. Having 4-5 seconds to stand in the pocket on a regular basis is another one of those factors.

 

[Blue&Silver]

None of us do after the last 6 weeks or so. I love Daks game but then I also hate his game. He didn't come through when we needed him this year, but neither did most the team. Dak gets franchised and the new staff can evaluate him and advise further.

That's actually the best bet especially if Garrett isn't here. Agree 100%.

 

[G2]

Miles Austin was a YAC receiver and his hamstrings couldn’t hold up. Crayton just sucked. The 2014-2016 lines were the best, probably ever in our history. No RB needed to be concentrated on because Dallas would abandon the run and stop themselves, even with huge leads. Nothing is different. We still abandon the run with Zeke.

You don't run for a team record of yards without a very good O line.

 

[G2]

4900 yards is definitely better than most QBs, and I'm not saying it isn't impressive. But I think one has to look at extenuating circumstances that aided in getting those numbers as well. Having 4-5 seconds to stand in the pocket on a regular basis is another one of those factors.

That's not always the case for Prescott, he can extend plays. But who cares? So what if the teams are different? I get it was a disappointing season, but I don't get all the fuss with this thread.

 

[Runwildboys]

Miles Austin was a YAC receiver and his hamstrings couldn’t hold up. Crayton just sucked. The 2014-2016 lines were the best, probably ever in our history. No RB needed to be concentrated on because Dallas would abandon the run and stop themselves, even with huge leads. Nothing is different. We still abandon the run with Zeke.

I agree about Austin and Crayton. The '14 - '16 O-lines were good, but Romo was practically crippled at that point from the lack of an O-line until then. (Thanks Jerry!) I honestly don't recall abandoning the running game, but I've never known you to just make stuff up, so I'll take your word for it.

Either way, I think a healthy Romo would do a lot better with this team than Dak would've done with Romo's teams. Dak's only advantages over Romo are his durability and running ability, IMO.

 

[Runwildboys]

That's not always the case for Prescott, he can extend plays. But who cares? So what if the teams are different? I get it was a disappointing season, but I don't get all the fuss with this thread.

I'm just bored...and tired of some folks talking like Dak is a great QB, when he's just pretty good.

 

[Aviano90]

I agree about Austin and Crayton. The '14 - '16 O-lines were good, but Romo was practically crippled at that point from the lack of an O-line until then. (Thanks Jerry!) I honestly don't recall abandoning the running game, but I've never known you to just make stuff up, so I'll take your word for it.

Either way, I think a healthy Romo would do a lot better with this team than Dak would've done with Romo's teams. Dak's only advantages over Romo are his durability and running ability, IMO.

I agree Romo would be better than Dak. The that said, there was a stat that would show how successful we were when Murray got 20 carries and how unsuccessful we were when he got less than 20 carries and Garrett would constantly claim we needed to stick to the running game only to continue abandoning it. We would seeming almost always average ~4.6 ypc, which was normally top 10, but would have bottom 10 attempts per game.

We even had GB come back from 26-3 deficit thankfully we quit running because they couldn’t stop it.

Here is a link.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000299618/article/packers-happy-cowboys-abandoned-running-game

Our line and running game weren’t nearly as bad as people make it out to believe. They use the extreme worst and try to act like that was the norm. They do that to defend their bias and I was guilty of it myself. I bought into the same beliefs and even pushed them. I had to take a step back and reevaluate

 

[Runwildboys]

I agree Romo would be better than Dak. The that said, there was a stat that would show how successful we were when Murray got 20 carries and how unsuccessful we were when he got less than 20 carries and Garrett would constantly claim we needed to stick to the running game only to continue abandoning it. We would seeming almost always average ~4.6 ypc, which was normally top 10, but would have bottom 10 attempts per game.

We even had GB come back from 26-3 deficit thankfully we quit running because they couldn’t stop it.

Here is a link.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000299618/article/packers-happy-cowboys-abandoned-running-game

Our line and running game weren’t nearly as bad as people make it out to believe. They use the extreme worst and try to act like that was the norm. They do that to defend their bias and I was guilty of it myself. I bought into the same beliefs and even pushed them. I had to take a step back and reevaluate

2013, and they were already dissing Garrett's decision making, play calling, and stubbornness. lol

 

[perrykemp]

This game was already won by the end of the 1st half. Should have let Dak go for the franchise single season passing record and try to reach 5K passing yards.

Why reward the mediocrity these players had a large part in serving up?

 

[thechosen1n2]

The final question was regarding the Romo record of which he was a single yard short.

He said a few things about when he found out it but his final statement was a very clear, genuine, and succinct “... I didn’t make the playoffs, I don’t deserve to break the record.”

Loved this response, and it endear me to him. I dont think hes "Elite" but I think hes in the 7 to 9.

 

[OmerV]

Myles Austin and Patrick Crayton did nothing with anyone but Romo, IIRC. Witten in his prime wasn't much different than Witten now, IMO. And Romo may have had decent OLs at times, but nothing like this one. Nor did he have a RB that opposing defenses concentrated on stopping, at least not nearly to the extent they do Zeke.

Crayton was actually on his way to his best season the year after he left Dallas, but got injured after 9 games. Even then, he still had his best season in several categories. As for Miles Austin, he wasn't doing anything with Romo either at the time he left Dallas. It was injuries that derailed his career. Hamstring after hamstring after hamstring, both in Dallas and after leaving Dallas. That's why Dallas didn't keep him.

Even so, Crayton and Austin being in that place at that time doesn't mean they weren't talented. That's not to say Romo didn't take advantage of the talent, but there was talent. As for Witten and TO, they obviously did things with QBs not named Romo. Witten had almost 1,000 yards in a season 2 years before Romo took an NFL snap

Besides, so far Gallup hasn't done anything with anyone other Dak either. But what does that mean other than he started his career as a Cowboy, so Dak is who he got? Miles Austin started his career in Dallas, and Romo is who he got. As for what Dak's receivers have done in other places, this was Cobb's best season since 2015, and Cooper's star has climbed since leaving Oakland and hooking up with Dallas. They are better here than before here.

I strongly disagree with the comment that Witten in his prime isn't much different than Witten now. If nothing else, there is the simple fact that it's very unlikely any receiver is the same at 37 years old as he was from ages 25-30, plus Witten was already falling off while Romo was still the starter. I'll bet Witten's 4.6 40 is probably about a 4.9 40 now, and he isn't nearly as quick as he was. That's not to say quickness was ever his primary trait, but it was at least enough where, coupled with his work ethic and understanding of the game, he was able to be an elite receiver among TE's. I don't at all think his work ethic and understanding of the game are nearly enough to turn him into an elite receiver at TE today. Today he is a solid role player, but not a premier talent at his position