Dak is not getting the credit he deserves

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When I was a kid watching football in the 1970's and beyond, I do not ever recall anyone ever justifying a QB's worth because of how many yards he put up in a year? Same thing in the 1980's. In fact, the guys who were known for putting up big yardage, never won anything.

I think video games like Madden & fantasy football has ruined football forever. Idiot fans now just look at stats to determine who is better. By their metrics, Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman sucked and Danny White, Tony Romo and now Dak are football gods. (little g on purpose)
 

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Passing game was absolutely a problem. Teams sold out everything to shut down Zeke all season, and we still manage to not get much going until late in the 3rd.

Passing yards only matter when the defense is selling out against the pass, and yards gained because Dak took advantage of the run game sell out do not matter for some reason. Got it.
 

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When I was a kid watching football in the 1970's and beyond, I do not ever recall anyone ever justifying a QB's worth because of how many yards he put up in a year? Same thing in the 1980's. In fact, the guys who were known for putting up big yardage, never won anything.

I think video games like Madden & fantasy football has ruined football forever. Idiot fans now just look at stats to determine who is better. By their metrics, Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman sucked and Danny White, Tony Romo and now Dak are football gods. (little g on purpose)

I'm not saying anything anywhere in this thread about how good Dak is to historical greats or the current QB rankings. For ****s sake.

All I'm saying is Dak put up 4900 yards and people pretend it doesnt matter and expect him to put up even more, which has almost never been done.

I dont play madden or fantasy football.
 

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I guess Dan Marino sucked and had inflated stats because he never won a superbowl so his career accomplishments mean nothing.

Yet another example of Dak being held to a stupid standard.
 

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The Joneses have been — and likely still are — looking to give Dak a contract in the $33-$35mil per-year range.

If that’s not “getting the credit he deserves”, then what is?

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Keithfansince5

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I'm not saying anything anywhere in this thread about how good Dak is to historical greats or the current QB rankings. For ****s sake.

All I'm saying is Dak put up 4900 yards and people pretend it doesnt matter and expect him to put up even more, which has almost never been done.

I dont play madden or fantasy football.
Of course putting up 4900 yards matter. It matters to the QB, and to his agent, both of whom will prosper greatly from it. The question is, does it matter to me as a fan? If so, why? Would putting up 2500 yards and a SB title matter more or less? To me as a fan, I don't get giddy about how many yards a QB throws for (unless he wins). Believe me, it has NOTHING to do with Dak. I have been that way since the Roger Staubach days. I realize this is just my view on things. You may get all giddy and bubbly inside when your QB throws for 400 or 500 in a game win or lose?

I recall that nail bitting tense game Dallas played against the Broncos when Romo ALMOST matched Manning yard for yard. That game was amazing up until Romo threw the pick to end the game. Then all the 500 yards he threw for meant literally NOTHING to me. Now, had he not thrown the pick and led the team to a win, then all of those yards would have meant something to me ONLY because they were wrapped up inside of a win. I am the fan who loved the SB blowout VS the Bills. Absolutely LOVED IT. Best game I ever watched bar none. My only consternation was wishing Leon Lett would have not show boated so he could have scored another TD and Dallas would still own the record for highest scoring SB ever with 59. But, if we had scored 52 on the Bills and they scored 53, it would be just another horrible loss by my Cowboys. All of those impressive stats would not matter to me.
 

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Of course putting up 4900 yards matter. It matters to the QB, and to his agent, both of whom will prosper greatly from it. The question is, does it matter to me as a fan? If so, why? Would putting up 2500 yards and a SB title matter more or less? To me as a fan, I don't get giddy about how many yards a QB throws for (unless he wins). Believe me, it has NOTHING to do with Dak. I have been that way since the Roger Staubach days. I realize this is just my view on things. You may get all giddy and bubbly inside when your QB throws for 400 or 500 in a game win or lose?

I recall that nail bitting tense game Dallas played against the Broncos when Romo ALMOST matched Manning yard for yard. That game was amazing up until Romo threw the pick to end the game. Then all the 500 yards he threw for meant literally NOTHING to me. Now, had he not thrown the pick and led the team to a win, then all of those yards would have meant something to me ONLY because they were wrapped up inside of a win. I am the fan who loved the SB blowout VS the Bills. Absolutely LOVED IT. Best game I ever watched bar none. My only consternation was wishing Leon Lett would have not show boated so he could have scored another TD and Dallas would still own the record for highest scoring SB ever with 59. But, if we had scored 52 on the Bills and they scored 53, it would be just another horrible loss by my Cowboys. All of those impressive stats would not matter to me.

I think it's possible to not care about the stat but still acknowledge that it's no small accomplishment to break into the top 25 all time list. But I do see what you're saying and why.

If you rank the problem areas (run offense, run defense, pass offense, pass defense, ST offense, and ST defense), passing offense is low on the list as for the reason we're 8-8.
 

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I guess Dan Marino sucked and had inflated stats because he never won a superbowl so his career accomplishments mean nothing.

Yet another example of Dak being held to a stupid standard.
I watched plenty of Marino games and he never was inconsistent like Dak is. NEVER. Having said that, he did at least go to a SB and win playoff games. If Dak never wins a SB he better put up insane career yards because without a title, that is the only way to the HOF.
 

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Here me out before clicking reply and calling me "delusional" or "stupid" or any of the other things said to everyone trying to be positive on here.

There have only been 12 different 5000 yard passing seasons, a mark Dak barely missed. He did however put up the 21st highest yard total in league history and only gets hate for it.

He gets a lot of hate around here for "garbage time" stats. I disagree with this notion.

Dak got a lot of garbage time stats, yes. I contend that this is true for every QB, even those 5k seasons. You cant tell me that every one of Manning's record 5477 yards was meaningful. Every year, every QB has garbage time stats and good stats in losing games. It's always true.

But no one discredits Bree's multiple 5k yard campaigns, even though much of it came in the form of blow outs in garbage time, for example.

Basically, this board wants to give no credit to Dak for his stats and I think that's dumb. Garbage time or not, he earned those yards, and thats why he has them. People are just angry that his stats happened in an 8-8 season, as though Dak is to blame for a useless special teams and an underachieving defense. If we had won 10 games, suddenly everyone's perception would be more kind.

Thoughts?
Good post. Their hate blinds them to the fact that those so called garbage yards were Dak doing everything he could to try and make a comeback.
 

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Careful .. you are close to unraveling the underlying fabric of all internet discussions which could inevitably lead to the downfall of social media and quite possibly the entire internet!

Words have power, and with great power comes great responsibility!



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I for one would love to see the demise of social media.
 

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It’s a solid post. But it won’t convince anyone.


The offense as a whole wasn’t perfect. But of the three units the offense is least responsible for the 8-8 record.


but like your last point alluded to. To the victor goes the spoils.
Losing games that 13, 12, 17 points were allowed isn't the O fault? Lets be honest neither the O or the D were great and equal blame can be laid on both, but not scoring TD's in the first half puts a great strain on the D , I would say the O was the bigger problem for just that reason but that doesn't fit some narratives of the great O machine that Dallas and Dak certainly are not. Beating the weak sisters and Losing to the scrubs with the division on the line scoring 9 points , 8-8 was a record that should have a asterisk by it just like so many of the stats.
 

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yep, the stats are all dak's and the losses are all on the team.
That's how it works on this board, get with it. Enjoy another year of hearing how great the stats were, just remember when the stats stunk it was everyone else's fault from the OL, RB, WR, TE, D gave up more than 9 points, HC, QB coach, STC, OC water-boy, refs , league conspiracy against Cowboys not at all the best QB in the NFL. You sir must be a hater.
 

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yes I know and speak for everyone...

But if you really care or what to know, simply start up a poll on as many team forums as you can find asking this very question. Or ask would you trade your qb for Dak and see the responses. I guarantee you there'd only be a handful of teams where you might get a favorable answer.


I’m not the one claiming to know what “everyone thinks”
 
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