The reason Moore was kept

[willia451]

The only thing that we know for sure is that Garrett and he entire clown posse, save Moore, are gone.

We also know Dak will be a FA next month unless the Cowboys get a deal done or franchise him before that point. The fact that Dak still has no deal and we are this close to him walking tells me the Cowboys are not sold on him at the price he is demanding.

Either that. Or they are simply ignorant. But that's ok. You can still make a ton of money being ignorant about X. You just make up for it by being smart elsewhere about Y. Maybe X doesn't matter as much as we think it does?

They certainly don't have to answer to anyone. They can do what they want. And that's all this is. Big boys with big toys.

Same as it ever was.

 

[LatinMind]

Lol... ok Coach. You’re certainly entitled to your opinion .

But if you don’t think Jerry influenced retaining Moore it’s my opinion you’re being very naive. Or just wanting to give more credit to FM.

I’d take it further than that but with our long and illustrious relationship I’ll let it ride out of respect for your opinion.

I think there was give and take. As there always is with new coach and ownership. Reports were Dallas wanted Richards back, and right after there was a report that said McCarthy stated there were no talks coming on the Richard rumor.

 

[Bobhaze]

He didn’t need to be released from our contract to entertain a coaching job in college or even in NFL unless it was a lateral move which NFL strictly prohibits.


“ Despite Dallas’ disappointing season, the team is intent on keeping Moore. Jerry Jones made it a point during the Cowboys’ HC interviews to express his desire for Jason Garrett‘s eventual successor to retain Moore. And McCarthy is a fan of the one-year coordinator. One year remains on Moore’s contract. “

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/01/kellen-moore-expected-to-stay-with-cowboys

Coaches under contract have to get permission from the team they are under contract with to interview for another job. The interview Moore was going to do was with U of Washington, not the NFL.

 

[Buzzbait]

100%...There was rumors from Jay Glazer that the team wanted to keep the entire offensive staff.. They actually still believed in those guys. So they hired McCarthy.....Well McCarthy did not sound like a guy who was going to give up playcalling before he was hired or during his Press conference while being hired. Then all of a sudden Kellen Moore was named the playcaller for this upcoming season. IMO, he was most likely force on MM and they sold him on the idea of being a walk around guy. I hate it. Absolutely hate it.
You don't hire Mike McCarthy and not let him call plays. I want no part of anything Linehan or Garrett approved of offensively around this team.

I agree with you Catch, I don't understand the idea of McCarthy not calling plays. In the beginning it was my impression as well that McCarthy planned on calling plays.
We got rid of Garrett for good reasons, I don't want any traces of him and his mediocrity weaseling it's way back into our offense.

 

[Richmond Cowboy]

I thought it was because he likes pizza delivery.

 

[Buzzbait]

Now your acting like the rest of the Homers attempting to discredit me personally because you don’t like my message. You’re better than Coach. Or just too far up Mikeys fatarse .Lol

What's with your incessant slamming of Mike McCarthy? The guy has not coached one single game for the Cowboys yet but your EVERY reference to him is in the form of juvenile name calling pertaining to his weight...…."Mikeys fatarse", fat Mikey this, fat Mikey that.
That's like school kids constantly picking on a kid because he's overweight. Most people get over that crap when they grow up. Didn't you grow up? I know you've always been a big Garrett fan even from back on the old DC forum, but Garrett is gone and thank God he's not coming back. Get over it Diehard, and give McCarthy a chance.

 

[Aven8]

I think there was give and take. As there always is with new coach and ownership. Reports were Dallas wanted Richards back, and right after there was a report that said McCarthy stated there were no talks coming on the Richard rumor.

I heard nothing that they wanted Richard back. And if that was the case we’re doomed. That dude coached himself out of the league.

 

[LatinMind]

I heard nothing that they wanted Richard back. And if that was the case we’re doomed. That dude coached himself out of the league.

It was reported the day McCarthy was hired saying the team was interested in bringing him back. Couple days later the other report was let out McCarthy saying no talks with Richard were planned.

 

[CCBoy]

Sooo, we need an intermediary that can convert real HC language into something Dak can understand since he never heard it from Garrett.

 

[Typhus]

Moore was hired and retained by Jerry.

Moore was part of the package if you wanted this HC job. It’s Jerry’s last piece of puppetry and who I’d look to for taking over if Fat Mikey disappoints.

I would agree however that it’s an indication Dak is staying for now with Franchise Tag. Not sure why that’s even been in doubt?

That's speculation, but probably true.
If we truly knew the answer to that, then we would have a greater understanding of MMs ability and influence.

 

[Runwildboys]

Yep

Open to keeping him sounds to me like it was someone elses idea. McCarthy was wiling to go along.

I think you may have selective vision, Gregg. I highlighted where it said McCarthy likes Moore, and where it said he was MORE than open to keeping him. Those statements don't sound like someone who was forced to keep him.

 

[FanSince71]

“ Despite Dallas’ disappointing season, the team is intent on keeping Moore. Jerry Jones made it a point during the Cowboys’ HC interviews to express his desire for Jason Garrett‘s eventual successor to retain Moore. And McCarthy is a fan of the one-year coordinator. One year remains on Moore’s contract. “

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2020/01/kellen-moore-expected-to-stay-with-cowboys

I didn’t realize Jerry was pushing that hard for Kellen Moore to be retained. From all accounts I’d read, it was left up to McCarthy to assemble his entire staff. I’d like to believe that MM really did want to work with KM and after interviewing decided to keep him on staff, rather than being force fed by Jerry.

Still, telling your new head coach “you’re free to hire whomever you see fit, but we really like Kellen Moore and hope you’ll give him consideration” is a whole lot different than “retaining Moore is a stipulation to get hired.” Taking into account that McCarthy has more power and influence (so far) than any head coach since Bill Parcells tells me that perhaps Jerry made his preferences known but tried to stay out of this one as much as possible. Maybe it was Stephen’s influence on his dad. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking. lol

Regardless, I’m thinking positively about the new coaching staff and hold onto hope that Kellen Moore and Doug Nussmeier were retained based on merit AND the fact that a bridge between the old and new regimes would be beneficial to staying in the ‘win now’ mode on offense.

Call me kooky.

 

[Diehardblues]

I didn’t realize Jerry was pushing that hard for Kellen Moore to be retained. From all accounts I’d read, it was left up to McCarthy to assemble his entire staff. I’d like to believe that MM really did want to work with KM and after interviewing decided to keep him on staff, rather than being force fed by Jerry.

Still, telling your new head coach “you’re free to hire whomever you see fit, but we really like Kellen Moore and hope you’ll give him consideration” is a whole lot different than “retaining Moore is a stipulation to get hired.” Taking into account that McCarthy has more power and influence (so far) than any head coach since Bill Parcells tells me that perhaps Jerry made his preferences known but tried to stay out of this one as much as possible. Maybe it was Stephen’s influence on his dad. Maybe I’m just wishful thinking. lol

Regardless, I’m thinking positively about the new coaching staff and hold onto hope that Kellen Moore and Doug Nussmeier were retained based on merit AND the fact that a bridge between the old and new regimes would be beneficial to staying in the ‘win now’ mode on offense.

Call me kooky.

I’m not sure why Jerry’s meddling would surprise anyone?

And we can we be positive about the new coaching staff while not being naive about Jerry’s influence.

 

[Diehardblues]

I think you may have selective vision, Gregg. I highlighted where it said McCarthy likes Moore, and where it said he was MORE than open to keeping him. Those statements don't sound like someone who was forced to keep him.

I think my comments were misinterpreted. I didn’t say McCarthy didn’t like Moore. And Jerry’s influence on retaining Moore doesn’t mean he insisted.

My point is Jerry’s influence and desire which were clearly evident was a factor. And probably a bigger factor than some are wanting to credit here.

As always we can all look at evidence and draw different conclusions.

 

[cern]

moore was retained because he's a bright, young oc with a positive upside. mac was smart enough to see this.

 

[Diehardblues]

That's speculation, but probably true.
If we truly knew the answer to that, then we would have a greater understanding of MMs ability and influence.

I’d argue McCarthy influence is similar to Parcells which Jerry still inserted himself where he saw fit.

This notion Jerry has turned over all control is absurd and naive at best.

Yes, Jerry finally made a better decision but that doesn’t mean he’s not still involved and final word.

 

[Bobhaze]

I’d argue McCarthy influence is similar to Parcells which Jerry still inserted himself where he saw fit.

This notion Jerry has turned over all control is absurd and naive at best.

Yes, Jerry finally made a better decision but that doesn’t mean he’s not still involved and final word.

Greggo, I think a lot of the positivity we see from many Cowboys is just hope. When change comes, most fans’ hope increases. All Cowboys fans want to see us win. Sometimes that desire to see change and opportunity for hope makes people overlook certain things too.

But that’s all part of being a “fanatic”. There’s a lot of subjectivity to fandom. We all know there’s a lot of differing opinions about what the MM hire means, but at this stage it’s all speculation and hope. We wont start getting any clarity on what MM will be as a HC for at least a year IMO. We all certainly hope he’s able to do what the last 6 coaches Jerry hired couldn’t.

 

[Zman5]

Mike hired Moore because he thought Moore was a pizza delivery boy.

 

[Diehardblues]

What's with your incessant slamming of Mike McCarthy? The guy has not coached one single game for the Cowboys yet but your EVERY reference to him is in the form of juvenile name calling pertaining to his weight...…."Mikeys fatarse", fat Mikey this, fat Mikey that.
That's like school kids constantly picking on a kid because he's overweight. Most people get over that crap when they grow up. Didn't you grow up? I know you've always been a big Garrett fan even from back on the old DC forum, but Garrett is gone and thank God he's not coming back. Get over it Diehard, and give McCarthy a chance.

Fat Mikey is simply a pun from Big Mike.

If we’ve learned anything over the years on these forums is anything Cowboy related is fair game for puns, nicknames and bashing of all sorts.

And we are able to do so without taking personal insults, attacks or calling out of our own.

We certainly didn’t get sensitive with attacks over Jerry, Romo , Garrett , Phillips and Parcells for example. Not sure why McCarthy is the protected one.

 

[G2]

Fat Mikey is simply a pun from Big Mike.

If we’ve learned anything over the years on these forums is anything Cowboy related is fair game for puns, nicknames and bashing of all sorts.

And we are able to do so without taking personal insults, attacks or calling out of our own.

We certainly didn’t get sensitive with attacks over Jerry, Romo , Garrett , Phillips and Parcells for example. Not sure why McCarthy is the protected one.

Are you 11?