News: Dak’s performance without Zeke

CowboyRoy · May 23, 2020

Cowboy Lover said:
I didn't say you did but that is the point of THIS thread. Jeeze dude. Read the thread title and the OP. "EMPTY SET". It's LITERALLY the topic of this thread!

Bro, I was talking with someone else in a conversation. LOL

IF you want to have a conversation, go about it the right way.

Mr_437 · May 23, 2020

Look...more stats haha. Good to know Dak might be finally pulling his weight after Zeke's been carrying him for 3 years.
:popcorn:

buybuydandavis · May 23, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
Dak has played 6 games without Zeke (not counting a meaninless game at the end of the 2016 season when the team sat Zeke).
Dak is 3-3 in those games is his QBR is as follows for each game

46
15
18
59
88
63

Not exactly tearing it up without him .

Now Don't make me post stats for how the team does when Zeke is held in check they are worse. Zeke is the engine that makes the team run, not Dak been that way for 4 years and it will be that way this season too

IN 2017, losing Tyron was a bigger deal than losing Zeke. A couple of those games were w/o both.

Falcons L 46
Eagles L 15
Chargers L T 18
Commanders W T 59
Giants W T 88
Raiders W 63%T 63
Seahawks L Z

0-2 w/o Z and T
0-1 w Z w/o T
3-1 w/o Z with T

We had a *better* win percentage w/o Zeke as long as we had Tyron.

Mr_437 · May 23, 2020

buybuydandavis said:
IN 2017, losing Tyron was a bigger deal than losing Zeke. A couple of those games were w/o both.

Falcons L 46
Eagles L 15
Chargers L T 18
Commanders W T 59
Giants W T 88
Raiders W 63%T 63
Seahawks L Z

0-2 w/o Z and T
0-1 w Z w/o T
3-1 w/o Z with T

We had a *better* win percentage w/o Zeke as long as we had Tyron.

Dak does seem to struggle w/o Tyron...this year he was 1-2.

Aviano90 · May 24, 2020

dfense said:
I could care less about stats. I just want a guy who when there's two minutes left in the game and they have the ball, he's going to find a way to win. I haven't had that feeling in 4 years.

Odd. One of Dak’s strengths was his ability to come from behind. Granted, he didn’t do it last year but was praised for it over the first 3 years. Dak haters would point out he shouldn’t have had to come from behind if he played better earlier in the game.

Here is an article about it.

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/pr...ow-has-led-nine-fourth-quarter-comebacks/amp/

Nav22 · May 24, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
No 88 is a decent QBR 59 and 63 are very pedistrian

Lamar Jackson led the league with an 81.8 QBR last season.

The best single-season QBR since 2006 (which is the earliest the stat was tracked) was Tom Brady’s 87.0 QBR in 2007, when the Patriots had arguably the best offense in NFL history.

“DURRRR THAT’S SLIGHTLY BELOW WHAT I CONSIDER DECENT AT 88!!!”

Keep embarrassing yourself.

Really, don’t stop. The more you anti-Dak know-nothings keep up your verbal diarrhea of sheer ignorance, the more the rest of us can see just how useless your opinions are.

Dak_Attack_09 · May 24, 2020

big dog cowboy said:
Withdraw the offer immediately. Let Dak play under the the tag.

Nah I bet that info is wrong tv revenue will go up due to more viewerships on cable.

EST_1986 · May 24, 2020

starfan1 said:
you do realize the haters dont give 2 shats about Daks performance without Zeke.Facts make no difference to them. This years narrative is garbage time and cant beat good teams. Last year it was cant throw for more than 250. Once dak takes this team to the promise land then it will be about the team. When it should be now.

El O El

QuincyCarterEra · May 24, 2020

Mr_437 said:
Dak does seem to struggle w/o Tyron...this year he was 1-2.

Dak didn't struggle in either game though that we lost, and definitely not in the game we won.

2017? Hell yeah he did.

But I still think we should invest better than we do at swing tackle.

Northern_Cowboy · May 24, 2020

Nav22 said:
Lamar Jackson led the league with an 81.8 QBR last season.

The best single-season QBR since 2006 (which is the earliest the stat was tracked) was Tom Brady’s 87.0 QBR in 2007, when the Patriots had arguably the best offense in NFL history.

“DURRRR THAT’S SLIGHTLY BELOW WHAT I CONSIDER DECENT AT 88!!!”

Keep embarrassing yourself.

Really, don’t stop. The more you anti-Dak know-nothings keep up your verbal diarrhea of sheer ignorance, the more the rest of us can see just how useless your opinions are.

You really make me laugh...what colour are your Dak pajamas? Do they come with a hoodie too! 88 is decent for a game for a season it is outstanding. So What does 59 and 63 mean? very pedestrian nothing special. Dak's QBR his rookie season was 78.8 since then it has dropped it was 69.5 in 2017 it was 56.2 in 2018 and bounced back a little last year to 70.2, nothing outstanding at all. You Dak guys love this QBR so stat why is it after 4 seasons in the league he can't accomplish as a QB what he did as a rookie? Dak is an average QB, his ability is average and his play is average and he is being carried along by the elite talent he has had around him since he was a rookie, after this season that talent is going to start slowly eroding away, it started this season with the suprise retirement of Freddy and it will continue. And anybody who want to come in here and use Tom Brady as someone to compare to with Dak really needs to have their head examined. As for Lamar Jackson his QBR shot way up from his rookie season to his 2nd season, exact opposite of Dak and i'm willing to bet he keeps it there in his 3rd season unlike Dak

QuincyCarterEra · May 24, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
You really make me laugh...what colour are your Dak pajamas? Do they come with a hoodie too! 88 is decent for a game for a season it is outstanding, what does 59 and 63 mean, very pedestrian nothing special. Dak's QBR his rookie season was 78.8 since then it has dropped it was 69.5 in 2017 it was 56.2 in 2018 and bounced back a little last year to 70.2, nothing outstanding at all. YOu Dak guys love this stat why is it after 4 seasons in the leauge he can't accomplish as a QB what he did as a rookie? Dak is an average QB, his ability is average and his play is averageand he is being carried along by the elite talent he has had around him since he was a rookie after this season that talent is going to start slowly eroding away, it started this season with the suprise retirement of Freddy and will continue. And anybody who want to come in here and use Tom Brady as someone to compare to with Dak really needs to have their head examined

Northern_Cowboy · May 24, 2020

QuincyCarterEra said:

Gee i can do that too...wow great response Dak is average just like your reponses

CowboyRoy · May 24, 2020

Mr_437 said:
Look...more stats haha. Good to know Dak might be finally pulling his weight after Zeke's been carrying him for 3 years.

You mean carry a rookie QB? LOL

Just another example that you know diddly about football.

Ever take a look at who played well in the three playoff games troll?

Mr_437 · May 24, 2020

QuincyCarterEra said:
Dak didn't struggle in either game though that we lost, and definitely not in the game we won.

2017? Hell yeah he did.

But I still think we should invest better than we do at swing tackle.

3 interceptions vs GB
0 TDs vs NYJ
That's struggle to me, but to each's own.

Northern_Cowboy · May 24, 2020

QuincyCarterEra said:
Dak didn't struggle in either game though that we lost, and definitely not in the game we won.

2017? Hell yeah he did.

But I still think we should invest better than we do at swing tackle.

He didn't? The fact we were down 21-3 or 28-13 at the end of 3 and if it wasn't for one bad Pass that Rodgers threw for a pick we don't even get close in that game. Or in the Rams game we were down 20-7 at the half and 30-15 with 7 minutes left...wow we scored a very late 4th QT TD to make the game look close...it wasn't. Dak played well in the Seattle game in the other 2 games we fell behind and we fell behind by alot because Dak couldn't get anything done on offense to keep us in the games. Our D didn't play well either but neither did Dak and the offense in both those losses to keep us in the games early.

Edit:
My mistake i thought you were talking about his 3 playoff games...apologies

Mr_437 · May 24, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
You mean carry a rookie QB? LOL

Just another example that you know diddly about football.

Ever take a look at who played well in the three playoff games troll?

You too damn old to be on here if you using the term diddly haha. Also, you too old to be sac riding so hard.

I know Dak didn't play well enough for DAL to not go anywhere of note in the playoffs.

QuincyCarterEra · May 24, 2020

Mr_437 said:
3 interceptions vs GB
0 TDs vs NYJ
That's struggle to me, but to each's own.

Did you watch the game to know how to those interceptions came about in GB, or no?

And Dak did have a TD against the Jets.

Mr_437 · May 24, 2020

QuincyCarterEra said:
Did you watch the game to know how to those interceptions came about in GB, or no?

And Dak did have a TD against the Jets.

Pretty sure I watched the game.

Dak couldn't throw for TD, and you know I was talking passing stats.

QuincyCarterEra · May 24, 2020

Mr_437 said:
Pretty sure I watched the game.

Dak couldn't throw for TD, and you know I was talking passing stats.

If you watched the game then you'll have added context to the INTs.
Why the hell would you only talk passing stats when discussing performance?

Hell you just cherry picked one stat per game and said "ahh yeah if you say so". Lol.

Mr_437 · May 24, 2020

QuincyCarterEra said:
If you watched the game then you'll have added context to the INTs.
Why the hell would you only talk passing stats when discussing performance?

Hell you just cherry picked one stat per game and said "ahh yeah if you say so". Lol.

Dak's entire performance was trash vs NYJ...why would I mention rushing when he didn't do nothing there either.

Point is DAL went 1-2 w/o Tyron...Dak didn't do enough to win, I watched that he came up short...way short.

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