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I will repeat what a number of intelligent posters have already stated in this thread. Go on Spotrac. Have a look at his contract. Now try to get over it. He is ours for 1 more year after this one then we will cut him and eat 19 million in dead money. He will then go to a smart team on a 1 year deal for 6 million dollars and ball out. His contract is literally a masters class in how not to win in today's NFL. Typically it would get a GM fired. Probably not gonna happen here. If it makes you feel any better I am sure he will be on the sidelines with some form of injury by week 8.
 
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You know i know exactly why other fans cant stand cowboy fans. They are over emotional and over reacting and sometimes lack simple x's and 0's brain power. Its game 1 and we already need to tank for a QB that hasnt played a down in the NFL. trade a top 10 DE with a salary no one in their right mind would pay., (except the cowboys) oh and let me not forget we need to go out and court an attitude problem safety who is going to magically fix all that ails us.

other NFL teams are not just going to lay down. we got beat by a team that was better prepared and at least last night better coached. They executed better than we did for the most part.

But I'm gonna ride with you fellow cowboy brethren I'm just not ready to cliff jump just yet.
 
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Future said:
Most of the time would be 51%, but you can use whatever arbitrary number you want.

A DL is never disruptive most of the time. Donald is the most disruptive DL in football and is disruptive on maybe a quarter of passing plays. If the Cowboys held the ball on every throw, that number would go way up. They didn't. Dak's average time to throw last night was 2.82 seconds. There is not a defensive lineman in the history of the NFL who is going to get consistent pressures when the ball is out that quick, especially not when there are outliers on scrambling type plays that drive the number up.
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  • That is wrong. 51% does not stand for most of the time.
  • Its also wrong that you can put there any arbitrary number in.
  • It is also wrong that Donalds had 7 preassures on 39 passes of us. He had 10 on 35 pssrushes. Which btw is great for an interior DL man.
We should first get facts straight and learn to use the language right before analyzing a performance.

Another question i have: how can you say a DL is never disprutive most of the time if you also say "most of the time" is not quantifiable for you ?
 
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TwentyOne said:
  • That is wrong. 51% does not stand for most of the time.
  • Its also wrong that you can put there any arbitrary number in.
  • It is also wrong that Donalds had 7 preassures on 39 passes of us. He had 10 on 35 pssrushes. Which btw is great for an interior DL man.
We should first get facts straight and learn to use the language right before analyzing a performance.

Another question i have: how can you say a DL is never disprutive most of the time if you also say "most of the time" is not quantifiable for you ?
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51% absolutely means most lol. But you can pick whatever number you want, because it's not the point.

The cowboys had 39 passing attempts, and that's not counting designed passes that resulted in scrambles. At 10 pressures, that's an impact of ~25%, like I said. So no, he's not disruptive on most pass plays (75%), and in the case of last night, it's because the Cowboys got the ball out quick most of the time.
 
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Future said:
51% absolutely means most lol. But you can pick whatever number you want, because it's not the point.

The cowboys had 39 passing attempts, and that's not counting designed passes that resulted in scrambles. At 10 pressures, that's an impact of ~25%, like I said. So no, he's not disruptive on most pass plays (75%), and in the case of last night, it's because the Cowboys got the ball out quick most of the time.
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It is the point: You are talking A and if youg ot proven that A was wrong you suddenly spin it to B.

The Cowboys had 39 passing attempts but you also said Donalds had 7 dispruptive plays. And that is plain wrong. Donalds rushed 35 times and had 10 disruptive plays on them.

51% is half of something not most of something. Think about that: If 50% were most of something why would a people invent the word half ?

You claim that the Donald wouldnt have been so disruptive if Dallas used the same approach as the Rams did. Then all of the sudden - when i asked you to show some facts - you explain that we did the same as the Rams most of the time. When i question "most of the time" you suddenly turn "most of the time" into a meaningless statement.

You are soft as butter.

But it is lost time to explain that to you. You all know that but you will never admit it because you fear all your other arguments will be gone with that.

But thats the story: You base your point of view on wrong assumptions. To fight for them even when somebody else proved that those are wrong does not speak for you.
 
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TwentyOne said:
It is the point: You are talking A and if youg ot proven that A was wrong you suddenly spin it to B.

The Cowboys had 39 passing attempts but you also said Donalds had 7 dispruptive plays. And that is plain wrong. Donalds rushed 35 times and had 10 disruptive plays on them.

51% is half of something not most of something. Think about that: If 50% were most of something why would a people invent the word half ?

You claim that the Donald wouldnt have been so disruptive if Dallas used the same approach as the Rams did. Then all of the sudden - when i asked you to show some facts - you explain that we did the same as the Rams most of the time. When i question "most of the time" you suddenly turn "most of the time" into a meaningless statement.

You are soft as butter.

But it is lost time to explain that to you. You all know that but you will never admit it because you fear all your other arguments will be gone with that.

But thats the story: You base your point of view on wrong assumptions. To fight for them even when somebody else proved that those are wrong does not speak for you.
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I don't know what you're talking about, you're so far away from the point because you have a hard on for the word "most." 51% isn't 50% lol.

Most of the time Dallas got the ball out quick - averaging 2.82 seconds.
Most of the time, Donald did not get a pressure - 10 in 40.

Dallas did the same as the Rams - throw the ball in under 3 seconds - most of the time. It's very simple, I don't know what your point is.
 

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hes not worth anything you can get this production and drama from a udfa.
 

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I'll take anything for him to get that contract off our books. His play is sub par and his contract is dead weight. I'd take a 7th rounder at this point. If I have to chose between Dak or DLaw then I want Dak. Tank is not the player he was after he got his money. He is the physical representation of the defense, all talk and no heart with wasted potential.
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Imagine how many people would do anything to have his physical attributes, him and d ware are prime examples of guys with every athletic trait and are already rich as hell but don't have the killer instinct let alone any self respect.
 
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While he still has a little stock. He’s declining big time. Roll with the cheaper options for this year(who are equal if not better). Start Smith and Griffen and Gregory could be the 3rd rusher when he’s back, and let Anae get some time. Get rid of that horrid contract and get a premium 2nd round pick for him. Offer him to the browns for their 2nd thoughts?
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robertfchew said:
Imagine how many people would do anything to have his physical attributes, him and d ware are prime examples of guys with every athletic trait and are already rich as hell but don't have the killer instinct let alone any self respect.
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I completely agree
 
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I don't know what you're talking about, you're so far away from the point because you have a hard on for the word "most." 51% isn't 50% lol.

Most of the time Dallas got the ball out quick - averaging 2.82 seconds.
Most of the time, Donald did not get a pressure - 10 in 40.

Dallas did the same as the Rams - throw the ball in under 3 seconds - most of the time. It's very simple, I don't know what your point is.
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When we were starting the conversation you argumentation was exactly the opposite.

And i knew that you are gonna make a joke out of the fact that i used 50% instead of 51%.
You do understand that 1% really doesnt matter in context of our conversation ? Dont you think you making yourself looking a little bit stupid when you "LOL" about that ? I mean others here can read your stuff too...

But anyways ... Do you at least understand what i am trying to say ? Because i am not so sure about that anymore.

You give me the feeling you are so about proving you are right and i am wrong that you are no more able to follow other chain of thoughts even not your own.

I suggest you take 2 days off then read our whole converstation. Maybe then you are able to understand what my point is.
 
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