Let’s admit something about Schultz

Isn't it funny that all of a sudden we have players like Schultz and Trysten Hill showing up?

This team was held up from developing good players. Thanks to Garrett.

superonyx said:

I and many of us didn’t see Schultz being able to contribute much.
I’m happy he surprised me today. Actually looked like an NFL TE.

Great game Schultz....
Now get some real shoulder pads.

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I was high on Shultz. But only after I saw tape of his very few opportunities as a receiver in college. Thought he could become a Jason Witten cloan sort of speak; as far as a legit blocker that offered a true threat as a receiver. The funny thing the return of Witten may have had a positive effect on his development as far as knowledge but at the same time took away valuable reps last season. Regardless he is a baller so far. Needs to clean up somethings but there is hope for the kid.

OmerV said:

Nope. Again, if you want to talk about something we were discussing in another thread, then discuss it in that thread.

I'm not going to let you hijack this thread and deflect attention from the fact that with both me and others in this thread you keep quoting and responding in a way that doesn't even apply to what you quote. Again, learn to comprehend what someone writes, and respond to that.

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I cant go back to 7 years of threads and quote everything you said. But I know what you said.

Youre take is the the 11 personnel is a better scheme than 4 wrs or a dual rb scheme.

In theory I would normally agree with you if we had a good enough red zone or deep threat te. But if that te has been here playing for the Dallas Cowboys these past 7 years then there is No Way On Gods Green Earth I could agree to play ANY OF THESE TES IN AN EXCLUSIVE 11 OR OCCASIONAL 20-25% OF 12 FORMATIONS ON PASSING DOWNS.

These tes are Not Superstars in their prime. They arent even good tes in my opinion.

How can you scheme your entire passing offense (every passing snap) around a te that has No Consistent Deep Ball or Red zone or Big play capabilities as a receiver without some substitution. Not just for Player freshness, or Monotony, but because of the LACK OF SKILLSETS of the Tes.

They show glimpses like they got some sauce against containment coverage. But how good are they against top defenders, one on one coverage, and against winning teams?

Jarwin has never done squat, schultz has Never done Squat, and Witten has Never done Squat against a contender in 7 years. Neither has Escobar, Hanna, or Any other te.

We have rbs and Slot wrs that have but not any tes.

Our 2nd rb and 4th wr is a better weapon than any of these checkdowners on red zone, deep ball, big plays, and scoring.

Is Pollard a better weapon than schultz? If so why isnt he out there and Schultz on the bench!

CowboysExchange said:

I cant go back to 7 years of threads and quote everything you said. But I know what you said.

Youre take is the the 11 personnel is a better scheme than 4 wrs or a dual rb scheme.

In theory I would normally agree with you if we had a good enough red zone or deep threat te. But if that te has been here playing for the Dallas Cowboys these past 7 years then there is No Way On Gods Green Earth I could agree to play ANY OF THESE TES IN AN EXCLUSIVE 11 OR OCCASIONAL 20-25% OF 12 FORMATIONS ON PASSING DOWNS.

These tes are Not Superstars in their prime. They arent even good tes in my opinion.

How can you scheme your entire passing offense (every passing snap) around a te that has No Consistent Deep Ball or Red zone or Big play capabilities as a receiver without some substitution. Not just for Player freshness, or Monotony, but because of the LACK OF SKILLSETS of the Tes.

They show glimpses like they got some sauce against containment coverage. But how good are they against top defenders, one on one coverage, and against winning teams?

Jarwin has never done squat, schultz has Never done Squat, and Witten has Never done Squat against a contender in 7 years. Neither has Escobar, Hanna, or Any other te.

We have rbs and Slot wrs that have but not any tes.

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lol - 7 years of threads. First you were quoting me in this thread. Then when your response made no sense based on what you quoted, you claimed you were responding in this thread to something I said in another thread at another time on a different point, and now you are talking about responding to 7 years worth of threads. Wow. Your brain is all over the place and jumps around more than a grasshopper.

superonyx said:

I and many of us didn’t see Schultz being able to contribute much.
I’m happy he surprised me today. Actually looked like an NFL TE.

Great game Schultz....
Now get some real shoulder pads.

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Pet cat. Loved his college film, and honestly surprised it's taken this long. He's a talented guy.

MikeB80 said:

he had a nice game. Looked like he blocked well also in the running game.

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He was a good blocker in college. I think people are forgetting that our RT is out. Kid has a lot of potential.

OmerV said:

lol - 7 years of threads. First you were quoting me in this thread. Then when your response made no sense based on what you quoted, you claimed you were responding in this thread to something I said in another thread at another time on a different point, and now you are talking about responding to 7 years worth of threads. Wow. Your brain is all over the place and jumps around more than a grasshopper.

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Okay. Well my eyes dont lie. I got all the money ya need for the taking right here bro.

I dont care if Cooper, lamb, Gallop, zeke and dak make the Pro Bowl this year. This team is not going anywhere in the playoffs with an Exclusive 11 passing formation w no substitution if that Te doesnt have any deep ball or scoring ability against great teams. They are most likely going nowhere in todays scoring era.

The Winning teams either have great tes or part-time tes. There are no teams w exclusive scrub tes playing every single passing snap gonna win squat. Theres too many teams that do have great tes. Or they have a defense that can stop the team that doesnt.

Pigs will fly before we win a superbowl with schultz, jarwin, or #82 playing in a constant 11 or 12 personell grouping on passing downs w their Lack of sauce. Its too monotonous

Sometimes, people just need a chance.

Clove said:

Sometimes, people just need a chance.

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Well I do agree with that. We need to spread some of those chances to the 4th wr and 2nd rb. And not just the starting te and 2nd te.

Witten had 15 years of chances to win w our everydown te system and as great as he was he couldnt win not 1 playoff game based upon his production. The great hof #82 couldnt do it but all of a sudden schultz and Jarwin can?

CowboysExchange said:

Okay. Well my eyes dont lie. I got all the money ya need for the taking right here bro.

I dont care if Cooper, lamb, Gallop, zeke and dak make the Pro Bowl this year. This team is not going anywhere in the playoffs with an Exclusive 11 passing formation w no substitution if that Te doesnt have any deep ball or scoring ability against great teams. They are most likely going nowhere in todays scoring era.

The Winning teams either have great tes or part-time tes. There are no teams w exclusive scrub tes playing every single passing snap gonna win squat. Theres too many teams that do have great tes. Or they have a defense that can stop the team that doesnt.

Pigs will fly before we win a superbowl with schultz, jarwin, or #82 playing in a constant 11 or 12 personell grouping on passing downs w their Lack of sauce. Its too monotonous

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Money for the taking right? What in the world are you talking about?

Have whatever opinion you want, but history has proven a team doesn't have to have an elite TE to win in the playoffs.

As for Shultz, if you really want to look at threads and my posts, you will see that after Jarwin got hurt I was very down on Schultz's ability to take up the slack on the receiving side. And I still think one game doesn't qualify as proof positive he can, but I can at least acknowledge he had a very good game yesterday rather than try and pretend otherwise like you have.

A reasonable person can be skeptical of a player and still acknowledge when he has a very good game. An unreasonable person will deny a very good game because he is more interested in a narrative than fair minded discussion.

Schultz is finally getting an opportunity and showing results. I guess that means Jarwin was his progress stopper.

CowboysExchange said:

Well I do agree with that. We need to spread some of those chances to the 4th wr and 2nd rb. And not just the starting te and 2nd te.

Witten had 15 years of chances to win w our everydown te system and as great as he was he couldnt win not 1 playoff game based upon his production. The great hof #82 couldnt do it but all of a sudden schultz and Jarwin can?

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Who said Jarwin and Schultz can "do it all"?

Seems like you can "fabricate it all" though.

JoeKing said:

Schultz is finally getting an opportunity and showing results. I guess that means Jarwin was his progress stopper.

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He was a progress stopper. Not to any of the Tes. But to Tony pollard, or any fourth wr.

Just like witten and swaim was to pollard and austin.

Austin did more on 500 less passing snaps than witten, swaim, or Jarwin. Lol.

The talent at te is not the problem. Its the passing snapcounts of the tes are the problem. Who cares if they arent deep threat tes or it takes 100 passing snaps for the Te to score. Ya use substitution. Thats the Whole argument. We dont have a steak at te. So dont treat them like a Steak.

I was actually telling my wife all last season that I think we got something in Jarwin and Schultz. Just needed the opportunity. I don't think Witt was a progress stopper btw, the coaches choose who plays, when and how.

BermyStar said:

I was actually telling my wife all last season that I think we got something in Jarwin and Schultz. Just needed the opportunity. I don't think Witt was a progress stopper btw, the coaches choose who plays, when and how.

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I have no idea why some can't seem to grasp this simple truth.

OmerV said:

I have no idea why some can't seem to grasp this simple truth.

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Oh, they can grasp it. They choose not to so long as it doesn't support their theories.

superonyx said:

I and many of us didn’t see Schultz being able to contribute much.
I’m happy he surprised me today. Actually looked like an NFL TE.

Great game Schultz....
Now get some real shoulder pads.

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Time will tell with Schultz, and I'm not willing to call him the answer based on one game, but I will say yesterday gave me hope at least. That was the most complete game we've seen from a Cowboy TE in a long time.

We havent had a steak at te in 7+ years.

So quit treating these guys like they are a steak.

Accept that ya gotta scrub for certain downs and distances and substitute for guys that have those skillsets that these tes lack.

Thats why Belichek has all the superbowls. He doesnt care about the player. Just their skillsets.

Thats why hes a great coach. Hes gonna scheme around the defenses weaknesses and not with just the top 3-4 skilled offensive players.

Jerry is a next man up coach and too quick to hand out all the snaps to unproven players. And then he never substitutes when they hit a brick wall.

Good luck wasting all those snapcounts trying to make schultz into a good everydown te when you could just play a better weapon at rb or wr. It will result in losses.

Thats the sad thing about yesterday. We got beat badly by an avg team. We won a game we shouldnt have. On a choke and a fluke miracle. If we were 0-2 yall would be dissing these tes for digging the hole for the Loss. 0-2

We wont change nothing while were winning. We'll get slaughtered by seattle this week and then got some easy games we can pad our stats with.

I betcha schultz gets shut out this week. Seattle is a hard hitting defense so that everydown te prolly get knocked out anyways.

Were gonna get to see some 10 personell or dual rb formations at some point. Theres no way schultz and Bell can be that Everydown guy and win many games.

Dak better be watching some saints games or some old Oiler games cuz were gonna be playing from behind if dak doesnt run for 3 tds again this week. Lmao

This non scoring red zone offense will lay an egg. Theyll look more pathetic against seattle than atlanta.

CATCH17 said:

I agree but man he does a lot of things precise and well.

He blocks well.. He finds the soft spots. He can move pretty quick.

You can just tell he has been studying Jason Witten and Zack Ertz because he does so many things just like them.

He's not super gifted but he's good enough and looks like he has worked hard on acquiring skill. He uses his hands to catch the ball too. Plucks it.



I wouldn't have said this directly after the game. It just looked like all volume but after watching it again.. Hes kind of good lol.

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Agreed. It's ironic that I predicted, as others did, a breakout season for Blake Jarwin. What if Schultz continues to be productive?