Gallup for 13 million or Cooper for 21?

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There are MANY very good to great WR in this past draft and the upcoming one.

Add in teams that are already paying one vet WR top dollar and who is paying 17-18 million a year for Gallup?

By next offseason if not all teams, most will have either top money already invested in WR and/or a young one that will need to be paid eventually.

I love Gallup and would prefer to keep him, but he isnt getting top, top dollar. No way.

Maybe a team that has a ton of cap space would go 10-12.
 

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a strong #2 to back up. and if Lamb or Coop break a foot?
Gallup is valuable.

He brings value, but we wont be able to keep him with as many holes as we have on defense. Its another strong WR draft, so maybe we find value in rounds 3-4. I'd trade Gallup for a 2
 

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If Gallup could be resigned for 13 million per year who do you keep and who do you let go or trade? Cooper is scheduled to make around 21 million the next couple years.

Cant keep all 3 of these guys. The drafting of Lamb was the writing on the wall for one of these guys.
Gallup is gone if they sign Dak.
Coop is not worth this type of cash, of course, Jerry overpaid as he had invested a no 1 pick and without Coop, our offense was R.I.P. when it came to scoring TD.
Another sacrifice for the Dak-Friendly inept offense.....:(
 

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Not that it changes much, but I think you're off by exactly one year.
Ah, you're right.
I saw Gallup at 25 and March birthday and didn't realize it was so early in March that he wasn't turning 26 later this month but had just turned 25 on the 4th....thanks
 

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If Gallup could be resigned for 13 million per year who do you keep and who do you let go or trade? Cooper is scheduled to make around 21 million the next couple years.

Cant keep all 3 of these guys. The drafting of Lamb was the writing on the wall for one of these guys.




The Cowboys have a potential out after the 2021 season with only 6 mil of dead money if traded or released but that wouldn't happen if done before the 5th day of the new league year for 2022. A lot will depend on what he does in 2021. One thing that is known so far is that in his 6 seasons in the NFL he's only played all 16 games once and in at least two seasons played some games where he wasn't 100%. Cooper has made a lot of tough catches along the sidelines. Also then who is the new #1 receiver? Gallup? There have been #2 receivers that never really excelled when given the chance to be the #1 receiver. Lamb? So far he's done well for a rookie as a slot receiver that gets a non starting corner to cover him. I guess this is one of those things that I'm glad I'm not the person to make this decision.
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Cooper is 26 entering his prime years and has put up great numbers since acquired. Gallup isn’t close to the caliber player Cooper is
You could argue who's making the biggest plays at the biggest times in the game too. And who disappears and also availability.
 

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Gallup is a dynamic talent in his own right. He was a 1,000-yard receiver in 2019. He was well on his way to that again, in 2020, before Dak went down. He still finished with 843 yards.

Gallup is only 24-years old & is one of the best deep threats in the league.
 

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Cooper has been the team's #1 passing option since he arrived. He sees all the attention to allow a player like Gallup to see single matchups on an consistent basis.
No denying that. Can't really judge Gallup based on the position he's asked to play, though. He's got great hands, and makes plays all over the field. I'm not disagreeing with you entirely. His numbers almost mirrored Amari in 2019 when Dak was healthy, and that was without great TE play or Lamb in the middle. He's definitely no slouch.
 

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The Cowboys have a potential out after the 2021 season with only 6 mil of dead money if traded or released but that wouldn't happen if done before the 5th day of the new league year for 2022. A lot will depend on what he does in 2021. One thing that is known so far is that in his 6 seasons in the NFL he's only played all 16 games once and in at least two seasons played some games where he wasn't 100%. Cooper has made a lot of tough catches along the sidelines. Also then who is the new #1 receiver? Gallup? There have been #2 receivers that never really excelled when given the chance to be the #1 receiver. Lamb? So far he's done well for a rookie as a slot receiver that gets a non starting corner to cover him. I guess this is one of those things that I'm glad I'm not the person to make this decision.
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Coopers injury history would be a concern for me as he is getting older. Lamb to me is the clear #1 receiver if Cooper goes. Lamb is the real deal.

At 13 million I am still sticking with Gallup. I also think we get more in a trade for Cooper.
 

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Offense would really suffer without Cooper. How do you think Gallup/Lamb will do when they have to see double coverage now that Cooper is gone?

Lamb is the real deal and would be the clear number one. Suffer? Im not seeing that. Would be as good? No. But as Gallup and Lamb develop they will be a force. And who is to say you cant draft another young WR? Gotta keep the rotation in line.

With Lamb and Gallup, I would not fear trading Cooper.
 

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Coopers injury history would be a concern for me as he is getting older. Lamb to me is the clear #1 receiver if Cooper goes. Lamb is the real deal.

At 13 million I am still sticking with Gallup. I also think we get more in a trade for Cooper.





I think Lamb has the POTENTIAL to be a really good #1 receiver but thus far in the NFL as a slot receiver he's been covered by slot corners. Who are the slot corners? They are corners that aren't good enough to be one of the 2 starting corners so they're like the #3 corner. That's who's been covering Lamb. To say that Lamb moves from a slot receiver to the #1 receiver when all he's been covered by is the defenses #3 corner is pushing it right now. Again I think he will be good but he first needs to prove it by being the #2 receiver and getting covered by a starting corner to see exactly where he is.
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I think Lamb has the POTENTIAL to be a really good #1 receiver but thus far in the NFL as a slot receiver he's been covered by slot corners. Who are the slot corners? They are corners that aren't good enough to be one of the 2 starting corners so they're like the #3 corner. That's who's been covering Lamb. To say that Lamb moves from a slot receiver to the #1 receiver when all he's been covered by is the defenses #3 corner is pushing it right now. Again I think he will be good but he first needs to prove it by being the #2 receiver and getting covered by a starting corner to see exactly where he is.
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Lamb is a legitimate #1, no question about it. I actually think Lamb would have more big plays on the outside.
 

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Lamb is a legitimate #1, no question about it. I actually think Lamb would have more big plays on the outside.



Like I said I hope he can but thus far he hasn't proven he can when being covered by starting corners. Has it ever occurred to you that he got some/many of those big plays as a slot receiver because he was covered by the #3 corner? You're sounding like many who say this college QB will be great before they have even taken a single snap in the NFL. Again I hope he is that good but first he has to prove it before making him the #1 receiver.
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Like I said I hope he can but thus far he hasn't proven he can when being covered by starting corners. Has it ever occurred to you that he got some/many of those big plays as a slot receiver because he was covered by the #3 corner? You're sounding like many who say this college QB will be great before they have even taken a single snap in the NFL. Again I hope he is that good but first he has to prove it before making him the #1 receiver.
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Its really obvious to me how good the guy is. Do you really need to see something first before you know its going to happen? Lamb is a total stud. Only thing I dont see him having is top end 4.3 speed. In my mind he will develop into a DeAndre Hopkins type WR.
 

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If Gallup could be resigned for 13 million per year who do you keep and who do you let go or trade? Cooper is scheduled to make around 21 million the next couple years.

Cant keep all 3 of these guys. The drafting of Lamb was the writing on the wall for one of these guys.


Coop
 

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Its really obvious to me how good the guy is. Do you really need to see something first before you know its going to happen? Lamb is a total stud. Only thing I dont see him having is top end 4.3 speed. In my mind he will develop into a DeAndre Hopkins type WR.




Again I hope Lamb is it but your question of do me or anyone have to see something before you know it's going to happen, well let me remand you of a well known fact. First again I'm not saying this will necessarily apply to Lamb, but how many college players have the draft gurus and sporting world have said they were going to be big stars in the NFL and turn out to be busts. They say that because they "know" what they will do in the NFL but that doesn't help when they turn out to be busts. Again I'm not saying that Lamb is or will be a bust but you saying that you know before Lamb has been covered by starting corners sounds EXACTLY like those draft gurus and sporting world people who gush over players that turn out to be busts. I'm happy for you that you really like Lamb. He did really good against #3 corners and again I hope he is as good as you think, but he needs to prove it first.
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There are MANY very good to great WR in this past draft and the upcoming one.

Add in teams that are already paying one vet WR top dollar and who is paying 17-18 million a year for Gallup?

By next offseason if not all teams, most will have either top money already invested in WR and/or a young one that will need to be paid eventually.

I love Gallup and would prefer to keep him, but he isnt getting top, top dollar. No way.

Maybe a team that has a ton of cap space would go 10-12.

All it takes is one. A lot depends on this year, but with Dak back in the fold on a top 3 offense he will probably have a strong year.
 

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Again I hope Lamb is it but your question of do me or anyone have to see something before you know it's going to happen, well let me remand you of a well known fact. First again I'm not saying this will necessarily apply to Lamb, but how many college players have the draft gurus and sporting world have said they were going to be big stars in the NFL and turn out to be busts. They say that because they "know" what they will do in the NFL but that doesn't help when they turn out to be busts. Again I'm not saying that Lamb is or will be a bust but you saying that you know before Lamb has been covered by starting corners sounds EXACTLY like those draft gurus and sporting world people who gush over players that turn out to be busts. I'm happy for you that you really like Lamb. He did really good against #3 corners and again I hope he is as good as you think, but he needs to prove it first.
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Im surprised you cant see it.

He will prove it. I have no doubt about it. Very confident in that opinion. I really dont care how many busts have happened. Nothing to do with Lamb. I heard the same doubts when he was drafted. Lamb is a complete stud.

I actually dont even think Lamb did that great. But then again, he was catching passes mostly from Dalton! I expect much better numbers in his 2nd season with Dak fully in the fold.

Only thing that can stop Lambs assent to one of the better WR's in the NFL is a major injury or Dak not being here.
 
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