For Those Who Don’t Like That We Paid Dak, What Was Your Alternative?

tom brady

that was my dream lol

[/QUOTE]The Cowboys have not been major players in free agency in years. Long before the ink dried on Dak's contract. It's more than likely that the money "saved" would have gone into more brilliant extensions like the ones your $90M running back or Jaylon Smith got.[/QUOTE]
And that's partly why the Cowboys haven't won a Superbowl for 25 years.
Teams need to make a few slash signings in free agency complemented by drafting well to build a strong roster. How many teams only decide to overpay their own players and win a Superbowl?
Green Bay only started to get close over the past 10 years since they made moves in free agency for the likes of Zadarius Smith, Preston Smith, Amos etc. Rodgers had been unable to carry the roster beforehand. Tampa Bay made a seceral moves last season, the Chiefs as well past few years. Patriots this season with the likes of Judon and Henry...weird they will comfortably make the play offs again.

It's all about balancing and trade offs.

I ask the question if we had a vet or rookie (someone like Rush but a bit better) then how many games do the Cowboys win without Prescott over the last seven? Given the state of his play, the strength of the defense and how the Cowboys beat the Vikings away with Rush...I would argue the same games would have been won. That's the crux of the problem which I and many others have long argued yet get labelled as a hater or even worse (which is out of line). Prescott isn't worth the big contract (very few quarterbacks that get paid are) which in time will restrict the overall quality and depth of the roster. Its not personal. It never has been. It's business.

Why would an objective and pragmatic individual pay a QB $40 million on average a year (or whatever it will work out over the next 3-4 years) when similar production can be acquired from a rookie or a Vet at the fraction of the price. This is where the disconnect is. Some still believe Prescott could be like Rodgers or Mahomes but he's in his 6th season now. The tape is out on him. He is very similar to Cousins. That's his level. He's a good NFL QB. Nothing more, nothing less.
The Cowboys will need to continually nail the draft and get lucky with long term injuries to stay competitive to overcome his contract.

CATCH17 said:

Most QBs are as good as their surrounding cast.

Dak is one of those guys. We can find another QB that’s as good as the guys around him. They’re everywhere.

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But what actual move was there to be made? A chance on a rookie and no Parsons or Fitzpatrick/Bridgwater? Those were the QB’s available this offseason.

817Gill said:

But what actual move was there to be made? A chance on a rookie and no Parsons or Fitzpatrick/Bridgwater? Those were the QB’s available this offseason.

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If we had Teddy Bridgewater do you think there would be a big difference in our team?

Has Dak ever beat Teddy?

#1...they don't have one.
#2...considering the same folks would pick him...they wouldn't like him any better.

Dak is our guy.
thats long been settled.
til this o gets righted...run the ball and let this D win it.
passing game will come back when you least expect it.
til then.
RUN.
THE.
BALL.

baltcowboy said:

The Cowboys should have paid Dak. He earned his money. My issue is the Joneses should have kept the pay similar to Watson or a little more. I think Dak would have caved and signed for 38 million annually. Jerrah caved to media pressure.

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So we are regretful about 2M? If you’re good with 38 how are you mad at 40?

No alternative, they had to pay Dak, they were in a tough position..

The Cowboys have not been major players in free agency in years. Long before the ink dried on Dak's contract. It's more than likely that the money "saved" would have gone into more brilliant extensions like the ones your $90M running back or Jaylon Smith got.[/QUOTE]
And that's partly why the Cowboys haven't won a Superbowl for 25 years.
Teams need to make a few slash signings in free agency complemented by drafting well to build a strong roster. How many teams only decide to overpay their own players and win a Superbowl?
Green Bay only started to get close over the past 10 years since they made moves in free agency for the likes of Zadarius Smith, Preston Smith, Amos etc. Rodgers had been unable to carry the roster beforehand. Tampa Bay made a seceral moves last season, the Chiefs as well past few years. Patriots this season with the likes of Judon and Henry...weird they will comfortably make the play offs again.

It's all about balancing and trade offs.

I ask the question if we had a vet or rookie (someone like Rush but a bit better) then how many games do the Cowboys win without Prescott over the last seven? Given the state of his play, the strength of the defense and how the Cowboys beat the Vikings away with Rush...I would argue the same games would have been won. That's the crux of the problem which I and many others have long argued yet get labelled as a hater or even worse (which is out of line). Prescott isn't worth the big contract (very few quarterbacks that get paid are) which in time will restrict the overall quality and depth of the roster. Its not personal. It never has been. It's business.

Why would an objective and pragmatic individual pay a QB $40 million on average a year (or whatever it will work out over the next 3-4 years) when similar production can be acquired from a rookie or a Vet at the fraction of the price. This is where the disconnect is. Some still believe Prescott could be like Rodgers or Mahomes but he's in his 6th season now. The tape is out on him. He is very similar to Cousins. That's his level. He's a good NFL QB. Nothing more, nothing less.
The Cowboys will need to continually nail the draft and get lucky with long term injuries to stay competitive to overcome his contract.[/QUOTE]
Well said. Most people will not get it though. Tag and trade for two first and second. Someone would have done this!

CATCH17 said:

If we had Teddy Bridgewater do you think there would be a big difference in our team?

Has Dak ever beat Teddy?

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Yes lmao what? Did you see what Dak did the first half of the year? That doesn’t go away because of his recent struggles. Bridgewater beats NE like that?

The Broncos are loaded offensively and defensively with a better HC and are 7-7. So no I don’t think he does the same as Dak.

Catch, you’re honestly telling me we are 10-4 with Bridgewater over Dak?

817Gill said:

Yes lmao what? Did you see what Dak did the first half of the year? That doesn’t go away because of his recent struggles. Bridgewater beats NE like that?

The Broncos are loaded offensively and defensively with a better HC and are 7-7. So no I don’t think he does the same as Dak.

Catch, you’re honestly telling me we are 10-4 with Bridgewater over Dak?

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Sean Payton won a lot of games with Bridgewater. I think Teddy is undefeated against Dak.


I think if Bridgewater is on a team where everything is going good then he can play good. Kinda like our guy.

Id rather have Dak but I don’t think our wins and losses are a lot different or the outcome of our season is much different.

It was nice to see Dak play the way he did early on but how he is playing now is his normal. That Dak at the beginning of the year is not his normal.

First half of year, first half of year,first half of year, first half of year!!!!!!!!! Did you see what Dak did............................Did you see what Dak did.................... Just pure comedy!

817Gill said:

So we are regretful about 2M? If you’re good with 38 how are you mad at 40?

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I am happy Dak signed. You are right 2 million is not much of a difference but I remember rumors that Dak almost signed for 35 million two years ago but his agent was a Richard. I am just telling you what I would have done. In the end Dak would not have left this gravy train. To much endorsement money.

Mobinvans said:

Anyone really

$40,00,000 a year buys a lot of defense

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40 million is 40 million, Einstein.

The year after you'd be *****in an moaning we don't have enough for a MARKET VALUE top tier QB that costs 65 million.
THINK.......have you NOT witnessed this year's defense?

They're pretty good......

CATCH17 said:

Sean Payton won a lot of games with Bridgewater. I think Teddy is undefeated against Dak.


I think if Bridgewater is on a team where everything is going good then he can play good. Kinda like our guy.

Id rather have Dak but I don’t think our wins and losses are a lot different or the outcome of our season is much different.

It was nice to see Dak play the way he did early on but how he is playing now is his normal. That Dak at the beginning of the year is not his normal.

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Sean Payton is not the coach we have here. QB’s don’t play head to head not sure what “Dak vs Teddy” games are supposed to add to this. The QB’s play against defenses not eachother.

Even if the first half wasn’t the norm, it’s a level that Teddy has never and will never reach. No way we are 6-1 with Teddy. He doesn’t make that throw to Ced on 3rd and 13 vs NE. He doesn’t lead the drive for the FG against LA. And even though we lost there’s no way he plays like Dak did in Tampa literally ever.

Teddy has an obviously lower ceiling than Dak and I think we both know any real NFL decision makers would back that up.

817Gill said:

I’ve seen a lot of “we shouldn’t have paid him” talk and I’m genuinely curious as to what you resident CowboysZone GM’s would’ve done.

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Several of us wanted Jerry to sign Tom Brady before the 2020 season. Dak was holding out, they could have worked out a sign and trade and signed Brady, which means Gronk would have come along.

I was widely laughed at for the suggestion. And who knows, it’s well known that Brady hates the Cowboys, maybe he wouldn’t have signed here anyway. But that’s what I would have done.

It was widely discussed:

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/dak-at-38-million-vs-tom-brady-at-30-million.452493/page-5

Dak spent the first 6 games or so playing like a top 5 QB. He has spent the games since his injury playing like a borderline starter.

How much he is worth is very much dependent on which one you think is the real Dak. The first one is really hard to find. The latter . . . not so much.

TheSkaven said:

Several of us wanted Jerry to sign Tom Brady before the 2020 season. Dak was holding out, they could have worked out a sign and trade and signed Brady, which means Gronk would have come along.

I was widely laughed at for the suggestion. And who knows, it’s well known that Brady hates the Cowboys, maybe he wouldn’t have signed here anyway. But that’s what I would have done.

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We have zero indication that Brady wanted to be a Cowboy. Literally none. Nobody would pick Dak over Brady obviously but it takes two for a FA to sign.

We were undergoing a coaching change and have a FO that’s not exactly the stable quiet one Brady likes. He also hates Dallas as a lifelong Niners fan and said multiple times how much he enjoys playing against and beating us.

There’s plenty of sources about Brady and the teams he was interested in and the top included San Fran, Tampa, LA, and Chicago. I don’t think we were a realistic option brotha.

817Gill said:

I’ve seen a lot of “we shouldn’t have paid him” talk and I’m genuinely curious as to what you resident CowboysZone GM’s would’ve done. He’s a top 10 QB. The way the market works is the next man up in that top 10ish bracket gets a top contract. He’s the 4th highest paid right now, in two years he’ll be the 8th or 9th. He’s not the highest paid QB forever. His teammates adore him there’s no way not signing him would go over well in the locker room. I don’t see any scenario where we let him go and are 10-4 at this point in the season.

What would’ve been y’all’s alternative? A rookie QB and miss out on the next best thing since LT? Try to sell the farm to Seattle when they obviously weren’t interested in trading away their only hope for winning football?

Seriously, what would y’all have done this offseason if you cut the chord on Dak?

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Mac Jones could have solved some of our problems.
Before you bring up Indy, not everyone is a superman every game. Jones will take his team far. Wait for it.

817Gill said:

Uhm what does that have to do with anything I said? The hit rate on QB’s drafted isn’t high. We would’ve most likely drafted someone who wasn’t the long term answer let alone this year.

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Uhm may be a good idea to try and make sense next time

GimmeTheBall! said:

Mac Jones could have solved some of our problems.
Before you bring up Indy, not everyone is a superman every game. Jones will take his team far. Wait for it.

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Mac Jones is playing for the best coach of all time and hasn’t been asked to do much this season. He’s played well but he’s no clear upgrade over Dak.