For Those Who Don’t Like That We Paid Dak, What Was Your Alternative?

[DOUBLE WING]

How have the Raiders performed the last 4 years?

Poorly.

 

[CATCH17]

Well, that's at least a realistic alternative.

I don't, frankly, think any sane person would look at this team and say we would be better off eliminating Dak and Parsons, and adding Mac Jones or Justin Fields. But it's an opinion and you're entitled to it.

Like l said though.. Dallas had multiple years to figure it out. It wasn’t just a 1 year thing.

 

[CowboyinMD]

1) Brady wasn't coming here. Like Peyton Manning, never was a fan of the Dallas Cowboys. To get him would have meant we'd have to overpay. No thanks.

2) Herbert went #6 overall in 2020. Dallas picked Lamb 11 picks later at #17. Someone tell me how Dallas messed up in not getting Herbert? Do you know how much draft capital it would have cost to get him?

Someone said it best: in a couple years Dak's contract is going to fall into the bottom half of the top 10 vs. what it is right now. Meanwhile the CAP will continue to go up, hopefully outpacing inflation, which is a real thang these days.

 

[Aftershock]

Poorly.

But he's 14th now in positional spending. Does that justify his contract despite average-good (mostly average) QB play?

 

[DOUBLE WING]

Like l said though.. Dallas had multiple years to figure it out. It wasn’t just a 1 year thing.

So what should they have done prior to that?

You could say Brady. Maybe? But there's no indication he was ever interested in Dallas.

Any pie-in-the-sky trade scenario has ripple effects. You're trading future draft picks that likely wipe you out of not only Parsons, but Lamb as well. Or maybe Diggs. And these QB's in previous years (let's say Herbert) is due for a huge extension in another couple of years that will dwarf what Dak currently makes.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Recent drafts? The Cowboys haven’t had a top pick since 2016. This was the first year they had a chance at a QB and none have been overly impressive. Are you suggesting they trade multiple 1sts to trade up? For whom?

Remember we just drafted the DROY and possible DPOY.

These are specious arguments.... There are many ways to maneuver for draft position and personnel but if you're not even trying then you've lost already.

 

[DoctorChicken]

I was ready to sign Brady or draft Mac Jones.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

But he's 14th now in positional spending. Does that justify his contract despite average-good (mostly average) QB play?

His contract was always justified. It's the cost of doing business at the QB position. The Raiders are, despite their struggles, better off with Carr than they would have been letting him walk and hoping to draft a replacement.

 

[McKDaddy]

Didn't we have this discussion in detail during that period?

 

[McKDaddy]

Also, drafting him means no Micah.

In fairness, things aren't that cut & dried.
If you had tanked last year, you could of had a top 5 pick which could have been parlayed into multiple picks and you could have still ended up w Micah.
Real answer is if you aren't convinced a guy is the guy you can make any number of things happen. Whether they would work out or not is unknown but that's what front offices get paid to do.

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

Play MFP at quarterback and have him play both offense and defense. He's that smart and that good.

 

[Syron]

There were 3 big name QBs under contract that wanted out of their teams: Rodgers, Watson and Wilson. We will never know if a trade could have been worked out, but all three would have been huge upgrades (depending on Watson's legal issues of course). Carr was a 4th name thrown out there at the time due to conflicts with their HQ Chucky. That might have been a lateral move to some, but he comes cheaper which could help in other areas.

Brady was a FO and his hate for the Cowboys was well documented, but we offered him the best offensive talent he has had since Moss. We would also have at least an extra 1st round pick if we had signed and traded Dak. And signing with the number one sports franchise in the world, couldn't hurt his brand...also would be a slap in the face to Belichick, which might have been appealing. This would have been my pick if possible, because he is the only top 10 QB that would leave money on the table to make his team better.

None of this matters now though since it didn't happen. We are 10-4 and will see how the year plays out. If he returns to the form from the beginning of the year, this deal will look great. If he isn't injured and this is who he is, then that 40m a year contract will hold us back for years. I am just frustrated because I saw how unstoppable this offense can be, and those games are quickly feeling like a distant memory.

 

[ryanbabs]

Lmaoooooo dude. The Washington Football Team would’ve absolutely taken him. Denver would’ve absolutely taken him. Detroit would’ve absolutely taken him. Chicago would’ve absolutely taken him. Carolina would’ve absolutely taken him.

Not sure if you guys really follow the league or not. You see what the Vikes did for Kirk? Even if you don’t think Dak’s that good a desperate team absolutely pays him and leaves us with no QB. Every offseason there’s a desperate franchise that takes a big swing at a QB. Chicago paid Mike Glennon lol. Jax paid Foles. You think no one pays Dak lol?

If y’all think other teams wouldn’t have offered the guy 38+ M you’re severely out of touch. Not to mention more than 30M. 35M would’ve been a steal in this market, 1000% someone signs him for more than 30.

C’mon guys that’s not even a plausible option.

Good QB’s grow on trees, remember? You’re making too much sense…no need to waste you’re time arguing with folks who have their mind made up.

 

[McKDaddy]

These are specious arguments.... There are many ways to maneuver for draft position and personnel but if you're not even trying then you've lost already.

Exactly. It all comes down to your evaluation. If you believe you need to make a move, you do whatever you have to do.

 

[CWR]

They wanted to draft Fields.

So we lose Parsons and we roll with him or another struggling rookie qb.

 

[GINeric]

Yes Dakota's contract is hurting the defense

Dak Haters are..........(fill in the Hate)

Dak haters are COWARDS!! That was easy to fill in.

 

[CTcowboy203]

To complain about the other quarterback we got instead or the draft compensation we paid to get these quarterbacks that weren’t available who had they been and Jerry traded for they’d kill him for trading for.

 

[DFWJC]

1) Brady wasn't coming here. Like Peyton Manning, never was a fan of the Dallas Cowboys. To get him would have meant we'd have to overpay. No thanks.

2) Herbert went #6 overall in 2020. Dallas picked Lamb 11 picks later at #17. Someone tell me how Dallas messed up in not getting Herbert? Do you know how much draft capital it would have cost to get him?

Someone said it best: in a couple years Dak's contract is going to fall into the bottom half of the top 10 vs. what it is right now. Meanwhile the CAP will continue to go up, hopefully outpacing inflation, which is a real thang these days.

I assume they meant that we could’ve traded Dak for at least two 1sts (maybe more) in addition to the onewe already had.
then have gotten Lamb AND Herbert

But all theory anyway
Nobody knows

 

[jaythecowboy]

Yeah they had options to tag him and if anyone wanted to sign him, which they wouldn’t have, then Dallas would get multiple first rounders.

Tagging would have been a horrible decision. Another tag was $38 million and you are just kicking the can down the road.

 

[817Gill]

These are specious arguments.... There are many ways to maneuver for draft position and personnel but if you're not even trying then you've lost already.

It’s not hard to assume what it would take to make a move. When you’re in the bottom half of the first round you have to give up multiple 1sts move up for a highly touted QB. It’s not simple maneuvering, it’s mortgaging the future for a dice roll. The amount you’d have to give up for a less than 50% chance of success isn’t a smart move.

You’re acting like making a play for a top 7 pick is a run of the mill front office decision. It’s literally the biggest gamble in the sport.